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Title: Clutch
Post by: threepot on January 15, 2019, 10:53:33 PM
Fitted new friction plates last weekend. Everything ok. Strange thing is,the old plates are the same thickness as the new ones?😕 Only thing I can think of is i ran the bike for a while using Castrol Power fully synth. I have read that fully synth oil can cause slip?? 're filled with Motul semi.
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: ssevy on January 16, 2019, 01:30:10 AM
 If it was automobile oil with the friction reducers blended in, it is conceivable. The synthetic auto oils are especially slippery for better gas mileage according to some?
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: Lee337 on January 16, 2019, 01:02:41 PM
That was my understanding too, Synth oil is more slippery, so not ideal in wet clutch bikes. Although you can get bike specific fully synth oil (like Mobil 1) that are usually for high performance sports/competition engines and costs a fortune. Car engine oil usually has additives in it to increase lubrication & while I've heard of riders who use car oil (including that for diesel engines), I don't think I'd mistreat my engines that badly.

Personally, I won't use fully synth in anything other than a car. I've always used part synth in my last 5 bikes without any problems (Kawasaki ZX6R,Yamaha XTZ750, Aprilia RSVR, Blackbird & Tiger 955i ). Probably did in earlier bikes too but can't remember.
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: threepot on January 16, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
Castrol Power was the bike specific type. 10w/40.
Triumph recommended fully synth in the Super3,and Daytona 1200. Same clutch.
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: Sparky on January 16, 2019, 05:26:47 PM
Synthetic, Dino, Vegetable, Cooking or Coconut oil.... as long as the oil has one of the following JASO designations it will work in a wet clutch application.  Most automotive oils do not have this designation Shell Rotella 15W40 Diesel oil has this designation I use this on all my older bikes.



"The motor oils that meet the JASO T 903:2006 standard can be classified into four grades: JASO MA, JASO MA1, JASO MA2 and JASO MB. The classification is based on the results of the JASO T 904:2006 clutch system friction test."
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rf9rider on February 18, 2019, 01:04:43 AM
What sort of job was doing the clutch?

Mines been standing a while and i have no clutch, i`ve bled it and still nothing?

I`m guessing plates have stuck together?
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rybes on February 18, 2019, 08:41:59 AM
Try putting it in gear and rocking it back and forth. That sometimes loosens them or you could try pulling the clutch in over night. It relieves the pressure on the plates and allows oil in.
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rf9rider on February 18, 2019, 02:13:05 PM
I can run the motor and go through the gears, but have no clutch, it has been standing a while.

I`ll try pulling the lever in overnight, Thanks Rybes.

Thing is we now have a moving date, i`ve only got a couple of weeks before we move to Spain!
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: threepot on February 19, 2019, 12:02:34 AM
Easy job to do. Get a new gasket,and torque clutch basket cover bolts 10 nm.
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rf9rider on February 19, 2019, 02:48:27 AM
Thanks Chaps, i`ll have a look and hope to get it done before we move, as i need to sell it before we go  :icon_frown:
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rf9rider on February 23, 2019, 06:43:33 PM
Thanks Rybes, your suggestion of leaving the clutch pulled in overnight worked, so i can get it MOT`ed this week and up for sale!
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rybes on February 27, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
Brilliant news  :occasion14 want to know the funny bit? I've never heard of doing it it was just an idea I had that made sense to me. I'm a genius  :wings :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Clutch
Post by: rf9rider on February 28, 2019, 02:42:18 AM
I`d heard of doing it with the brakes to help with bleeding.
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