When upshifting, I spend very little time in 5th gear. I alwyas bump up right into 6th. When down shifting, I always double down to 4th to feel any impact on deceleration. I almost never find myself riding in 5th gear. Even when riding the twisties in WV... I am eather in 4th or 6th. What about you?
I wish Triumph would have set 6th gear with a highr ratio. That way the bike have better fuel milage and a 5th gear I would actually use...
I generally use 5th on the way up but never on the way down. Always double down to 4th. I think 6th should be a higher gear for motorway-type use only.
I also think 1st is a little high too. Some say my sports can tuning is responsible for it feeling higher than standard - I don't know? But I'd rather drop the clutch and get away with a quick change up to second.
When I first got the Tiger I wasn't too sure about the gear ratios, until I got used to the power characteristics. For most of my riding I would now agree that sixth feels too low, and could be a useful overdrive gear. I also wouldn't mind first being a little lower, not that I ever get problems away from the lights but I didn't realise how awkward tackling a grassy slope with luggage would be with stock gearing.
Amen Gentlemen!
I feel the same way you guys do about transmission ratios in the Tiger. 6th gear is useless. Only thing I know to do is gear up to the 19T motor sprocket and live with it!
Ride it like ya stole it!
Capbuster
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I know its a long ways back when you last posted this thread, but after many miles on my 05 tiger i wonder why we have 6th gear at all. Lets face it if you ride the bike within the user power band of between 4 and 6500 revs in 4th gear your in complete control for fast acceleration and engine braking, and at speeds on the permitted legal limits and more, Which begs the question is 6th gear just fashionable as everyone else has 6. Now the engine revs to 9k ish and thats about 110mph on current gear ratios in 5th so with a little tweaking at the factory 6th could become redundant. Phew, got that off me chest.
I think 5th is completely useless, simply never use it. 6th is fine for motorways. It's a fashion thing having 6 gears.
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Hi Greg
I think you have missed my point. If 5th is useless and you never use it then mathematically if you remove 5th and you use 6th only you have a 5 speed box. Or have i missed the thread/?
The redline may be at 9,500, but don't you think it's more relaxing when the motor's spinning low on a long run with constant throttle?. Doing 85mph on the motorway, the motor's at almost 6,000 rpm... I'd prefer it spinning at 4,500rpm etc
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Hi Sofalofa
Fair play to you all. We all have our own ideas but its good to share them as we would never get any where if we all stayed in low gear.
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Hi Greg
I think you have missed my point. If 5th is useless and you never use it then mathematically if you remove 5th and you use 6th only you have a 5 speed box. Or have i missed the thread/?
Ah I see, that is what the Doctor meant by attention deficit disorder!
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Hi Greg
I think you have missed my point. If 5th is useless and you never use it then mathematically if you remove 5th and you use 6th only you have a 5 speed box. Or have i missed the thread/?
Ah I see, that is what the Doctor meant by attention deficit disorder!
Fashionable or not, the 6th gear ratio is real handy on the super-slab at about 120 out in the desert.
Changed the front sprocket to 19t as my 50 mile daily commute is 95% m/way standard roads. Extra 10 miles to the tank & power in 6th between 80 & 100 is superb. 70mph = 4400rpm in 6th :wink:
steve, exactly a 50 mile a day motorway trip for me too... Will consider doing this, but doesn't changing sprocket sizes mess up the speedo/mileometer readings etc?
Quote from: "Sofalofa2005"but doesn't changing sprocket sizes mess up the speedo/mileometer readings etc?
No. The speedo/mileometer is connected to the front wheel and has nothing to do with the gearbox or rear wheel drive.
For those of us with some elevation within our riding range (Rocky Mountains of Colorado for example), I'm thankful for every gear my Tiger has. I'm one of those who have geared up and so 5th gear is about where 6th used to be and 6th now has become very comfortable at freeway speeds (80+ mph) and allows the motor to spin about 500 rpm less. I actually get a lot of use out of 5th, mostly while going up those mountain grades. This all may be mute to those who spend all their time on the flatlands of the globe. Maybe only 3 or 4 gears would necessary there.
Quote from: "Sofalofa2005"but doesn't changing sprocket sizes mess up the speedo/mileometer readings etc?
It's not a b1oody BMW don't you know!
I changed to a 19T drive sprocket 8000 miles ago and think that's what Triumph should fit as standard. 50mph@3K, 65mph@4K, 80mph@5K. Above 5K rpm is where it starts to drink the juice. So stick to 80 mph on the motorways and get 55mpg & 220 miles before the warning light. Only trouble is ; you need the gel seat to go the distance.
As for using 5th. Each gear is usefull in some situation. I use it for trickling through towns. Also, I agree with the earlier comments about "6th could have been an overdrive" sort of thing. 1st to 5th could have been spaced like 1st to 6th actually is, with 6th being really high to bring the revs right down like 80mph @ 3500rpm. I'm sure with the torque this engine puts out it would work OK.
Quote from: "Blacktiger"... with 6th being really high to bring the revs right down like 80mph @ 3500rpm.
That's what I want! How can we get that?
Quote from: "BykBoy"Quote from: "Blacktiger"... with 6th being really high to bring the revs right down like 80mph @ 3500rpm.
That's what I want! How can we get that?
Impossible with our gearbox. I doubt the ratio would fit in the cases even if you got gears specially made..
Quote from: "Blacktiger"Quote from: "BykBoy"Quote from: "Blacktiger"... with 6th being really high to bring the revs right down like 80mph @ 3500rpm.
That's what I want! How can we get that?
Impossible with our gearbox. I doubt the ratio would fit in the cases even if you got gears specially made..
Well that just sucks!
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how bad does the 19t sprocket change effect slow speed 1st gear riding? i'd like the better gas milage for my 100mph commute but i stll do forest service road touring.
Quote from: "obxtiger"how bad does the 19t sprocket change effect slow speed 1st gear riding? i'd like the better gas milage for my 100mph commute but i stll do forest service road touring.
I never had any problems with the 19 T on service road or dirt roads. It get's a little tricky on technical sections (watter washouts, deap sand). In these situations I would work the clutch a little more... I carry a 16 T sprocket with me just in case I get into some really nasty off road. Never had to use it thouh...