I found these spy pics of the 2007 tiger.
http://www.triumphchepassione.com/trium ... r-1050.htm (http://www.triumphchepassione.com/triumph-tiger-1050.htm)
Hmmmmmm ... Looks like Brembos on the rotors and Ohlins as the forks. Could it be? Don't fancy the fairing work though - looks too much like a yamma hopper FZ genus...
Looks like a crotch rocket with wheel travel. I don't like it. What ever happened to taking a bike down a gravel road or dirt path?
If that what the new Tiger is going to look like,i guess i'am keeping mine till the wheels fall off
It looks like a huge Super-Motard style now.
I wouldn't mind if Triumph started a Super-Motard line, but KEEP the '02-05 Tiger Adventure Tourer Trailie style of bike. The 'improvements' for the 2007 Tiger (if they ever release it like the spy pictures) went in a totally different direction than the style of bike that it has become popular for.
Triumph could be riding the "Long Way 'Round" wave that's making BMW adventure bike sell like hot cakes. Instead, they seem to be changing their Adventure bike in to a street bike.
I think if they keep the current style like the one in the top left corner of this site, but just added the 1050 bigger motor, coolant/oil cooler protectors, add a nice bash plate underneath and add a shaft drive like the Beemer 1200GS, that would be a great bike. .:D (I can dream anyway)
If that's the bike that Triumph had had this year, I would have gotten the Buell Ulysses. The new Tiger appears to have roughly the same wheelbase as the old, but the obvious lack of pillion amenities, combined with what appears to be a much smaller fuel reservoir, would have cinched the deal for the XB12X, despite it's shortcomings.
Hey Triumph! You're already tooled up on the standard. Make both! Maybe you could lift another name from the old BSA's and call the new one the 'Victor'. 8)
Thank God my dealer found a new 06 at the port. This 07 looks like a transformer. Now if only it would arrive...... :D
I'm going to wait and see what is really like, up close and personel!
It's on my shortlist of potential new bikes.
Perhaps Triumph think that BMW and KTM have the Adventure Bike sector sewn up so are taking the Tiger somewhere else?
I quite like the idea of a 'MegaMoto' Tiger with sports touring rubber and firmer suspension. :D
Just one thing, bring back the hydraulic clutch!
Not sure about that colour though?
:idea: Perhaps they'll release a 675 engined Tiger Cub?
Regards,
Tiger Feet.
I am soooooo glad I bought my '06. The '07 is fugly. Looks like a Suzuki or something. They definitely lost the Triumph character and personality...
I totally agree. My 06 is now on its way to the dealer and should be in sometime this week. The 07 looked like a KTM and a Fazer were left alone over night unsupervised.
No, it's not the prettiest bike ever made but then niether is the current one?
I still think that the original Tiger 93-98 was the best looking, but I'm probably biased as I had my '97 (98YM) steamer from new:?:
As for losing the character and personality, the presonality may have changed, but then that's evolution for you!
Remember that not evolving and moving with market trends was one of the reasons the British Motorcycle industry went from 'hero to zero' in a little over a decade, and I for one don't want to see that happening again!
As for the character, I think the proof of that will be in the riding:?:
The KTM reference is quite appropriate, as it's going to be a direct competitor for the 950SM.
I'm still going to wait and see, as it might well be the next bike for me :D:?:
Best regards,
Tiger Feet.
"Remember that not evolving and moving with market trends was one of the reasons the British Motorcycle industry went from 'hero to zero' in a little over a decade, and I for one don't want to see that happening again! "
Quite correct. It just seems to me that Triumph could have evolved the tiger along the current lines a bit more. From what I have seen so far, this 07 looks like it could have been a new bike added to the line. Here in the US BWM sells the GS like mad, Buell has the Uly, KTM has its line and there are the two V-Strom's (The Multi-strada is a bit of a diffrent market I think and Aprillia has a miniscule presences here) so it seems as if there is a market. Why not add ABS, upgrade the power plant, and restyle the current tiger a bit price it just a bit above the Uly and below the GS and promote the bike.
Yes, they could have evolved it some more, but when and where do you draw the line and start again with a new model?
They could have spilt it into two bikes, one road version and one on/off road?
The Mk2 has already run for some years longer than the Mk1.
Having thought about it a bit more perhaps the demise of the Trophy as the tourer and the Sprint ST going more sporty has led to the realignment of the Tiger is trying to get to cover several bases?
A different kind of 'dual purpose' bike?
Best regards,
Tiger Feet.
Actual looks of the bike are a matter of taste. Guess the steamer owners had a similarly hard time adjusting to the Girly looks as the Girly owners now have to the 2007 looks (any nicknames out there yet?). Styling of bikes has always been contemporary.
On that note: Why does everything these days have to have that 'grim and angry' look? Whether it's cars (charger etc) or bikes? Do we have to have that mean image to find a bike appealing? Sad...
While certain aspects of the concept appeal to me (Triple, HID lights, triple, upside down forks, triple... 8) ) I don't like the physical setup when using luggage, especially the top box taking the pilion seat! That is BS! The concept Triumph follows is certainly going away from the trailie, and that is what I don't like.
In any case, before everybody gets hype-ed up about it wait until it arrives at the dealer with all options finalized. Then decide if you like it or not...
I think the bike looks cool. I wouldn't mind having one, IF...
I didn't have to carry a passenger.
I didn't want to carry luggage.
I didn't mind looking like I was Riding with Nippon.
I didn't want a touring bike.
Hmmm... I guess I don't want one. But I still think it looks cool.
Quote from: "GatorTiger"Actual looks of the bike are a matter of taste. Guess the steamer owners had a similarly hard time adjusting to the Girly looks as the Girly owners now have to the 2007 looks (any nicknames out there yet?).
T-Strom?
3-Strom?
Quote from: "Tri2Fly"T-Strom?
3-Strom?
shorT-circuit? :twisted:
Apparently Triumph wants to go out of the off road / road sector with the Tiger 07.
I think they want to compete directly with the Ducati Multistrada.
Quote from: "german"Apparently Triumph wants to go out of the off road / road
That would be a good move for them.
The "Adventure" segment of the motorcycle world is relatively small, and it will be harder and harder for Triumph to compete in. KTM seams to be the clear leader off road in that segment. I doubt any Tiger can compete with it's off road capabilities. The Tiger can not compete with the KTM 950 SE and BMW HP2 in the "super-thumper" class either. Nor can it compete with the 1200GS/A image - whether or not it can compete with it on the road is a different issue... And finally, the V-Strom is just as good as the big cat at the low end of the price range. No real place for a triple in this twin dominated class... And a small class at that...
Looks to me like Triumph is trying to create a niche for the Tiger in a much larger segment of the market. This segment has more potential buyers and seems to be growing in popularity. Just look at what they are doing in the 600 (4s) - 750 (twins) segment with the 675 Daytona. Still a small slice, but of a bigger pie...
May well be that they are moving to a more road oriented bike. I think that they are making a msitake if that is the direction by styling the 07 like they did based on the spy shots.
I hope that Triumph have realised what they're up against by moving sectors with the New Tiger?
There's some strong competition and most of it is non Japanese, much the same as it's current competition!
The number of people who actually take Tigers 'off tarmac' is quite a small percentage of the total sales I'd wager?
We'll soon know if they've got it right or not though?
Best regards,
Tiger Feet.
Here's my opinion, I cover less than 5% of my milage offroad, butI need that option, hence I bought a dual sport. The bike fills my needs. People buy Range rovers but never venture offroad that often, others buy Subaru Imprezas but never rally them, they just WANT them! It's the ethos, Ford sold millions of Escorts on the back of their RS Rally sport. It's an ethos thing!
Europe has a huge dual sport market and the UK are also starting to go down that road due to the speed cameras popping up everywhere, sports bikes are licence losers. First time bikers buying up all round bikes such as Bandits, Fazers and Hornets are a limited market and as Triumph already have a bike covering that market, the speed triple, I don't understand the direction they're taking the Tiger. The new one looks like a faired Bandit or Fazer to me.
BMW have the best selling dual sport in the world right now, not my taste but their gain was KTM's loss due to TV with "the long way round". The KTM is far too focussed offroad for me, Honda's Varadero too on road, happy medium? The Triumph Tiger, a beautifully mannered bike on the road with offroad capabilities, well, dirt tracks any way. It fills my needs for now, although Honda are allegedly producing a replacement for the Africa Twin next year, more power, but with the XRV traits might be worth a look. If not, I'll keep my Triumph. A less offroad biased Triumph will lose my vote.
Very thoughtful posts all. I'm surprised, however, that the thread has gone on this long without someone saying the word Supermoto. While the current bike is more to my tastes, the north american press are wetting themselves over KTM's supermoto version of the Adventure, Ducati is doing the same, and I think Triumph is being financially wise by following the fickle masses. Again, the press over here only gave the Tiger good reviews after Triumph gave it a street set-up; here, they're accepting this advice and applying it to the styling. It's in the supermoto category that the new bike will be judged, I'm guessing, and the only way to know for sure will be to learn more about the suspension.
But to the extent we can judge a bike by its clutch cover, I too prefer my '99, 855 engine and all.
I really don't know the business end of manufacturers, but since Triumph doesn't have a Supermoto catagory to speak of, couldn't they create one and still keep the Adventure Tourer (trailie) model line also? The Tiger really fills the niche that BMW and KTM don't fill. A tralie TRIPLE thats lighter (than BMW), very manuverable and is very at home on fire roads and the highway with very little modification. IMHO it really manuvers like a heavier version of my old Yamaha XT 600.
I think the 1050 triple motor would make a fantastic super motard. It's just a great motor that can do a wide range of motorcycle applications.
Triumphs R&D should approach the top executives and convince them to have both a Super Motard line AND keep on improving the Tiger as an Adventure Tourer and keeping and encouraging the aftermarketers with the ability to still make it a heavy duty trailie for the real off road applications. If they drastically change the Tiger too much, they lose that off road ablility totally.
http://www.touratech-usa.com/shop/eurob ... 3966EB2010 (http://www.touratech-usa.com/shop/eurobikes.lasso?SubCat=Tiger&-session=touratech:2057FBC03181B51F4E5B2C3966EB2010)
I'd really like to see both bikes (Trailie and Super Motard) on the Triumph showroom floor for 2007.
From the non exhaust side it looks like any other Jap bike (Fazer CBF ) Spring to mind, Have Triumph lost it ?
Who wants a Bike as ugly as sin?
Smaller tank harder seat fast as F**k But a Sunny Day 1hr Tool.
Buy a Yamaha Xt660
Yes you could give the sportsters a run for there money but why? You can now.
The Tiger name is all about dual purpose, Now its a Super motad Not a BMW beater.
Well that's my Moan
They have gone to far
BIG BILL
I couldn't be bothered waiting for Triumph to build a Supermoto,so i built my own 4 years ago,decent wheels,decent brakes,decent rubber,i've no problem with concept it'll sell loads,the actuall design of the 07??? Mmmm!!!!