Well, I received my MoTech center stand from Twisted Throttle today and dove into the install. Boy did I underestimate the amount of work to do. :shock: Oh, the humanity! The carnage in the garage is hard to bear but I will endure. :) Unlike the stock center stand, this one used the frame mounting point for the lower suspension link. Translate: remove all fairing panels, remove the exhaust behing the headers, disconnect the rear suspension. I only had a couple hours to work on it today so here is where I am.
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Lets's play name the part...
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I'll get back to it tomorrow. Up on the stand to undo the rear suspension and slip the stand in place.
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Dood! You stripped all that stuff off, and there was a bicycle underneath? No wonder the CS won't fit!
:mrgreen:
Quote from: "Stretch"(http://www.twtex.com/photopost/data/543/medium/TT2.jpg)
Dood! You stripped all that stuff off, and there was a bicycle underneath? No wonder the CS won't fit!
:mrgreen:
:lol: :lol:
Off to the garage now!
boy, i dunno, looks like a lotta work and a big cash outlay.
i went this route: 15 minutes work, $3.50 cash outlay :D
note deluxe carrying case on left (complete with slime)
I have always been reluctant to use the "stick" because early Steamers had more than a few reports of the sidestand snapping in half. :shock:
I have the OEM centerstand in a box ( have had for over 4 years) and plan on getting a dealer to do soon...but still tihnk about doing this myself.
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Man does that stick/whatever that is look unstable. I thought about the stick under the foot peg route but was concerned about the weight on the side stand. I used that method on my old XL600 (320lbs) using rocks or whatever I could find to prop it up. This is better. Yeah it costs more but it'll always be there and will hold the wieght. On to the report.....
I had some honey do errands to run this morning so it wasn't until about noon that I was able to get to work. First to get her up on the lift, no prblem with a little cribbing. Here is the object of all the attention....the suspension linkage/frame mount.
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Everything came apart real easy. No frozen or rusted up parts. Now we're making progress. Just line up all the parts, there are 5 peices and then the bolt.
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Once it's all together, it really fits up in there nicely.
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I hope Suzi wasn't getting jealous of all the attention on the new girl.
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Things are starting to come back together. Now it's down to the rack and body work/fairing. No problems. This is a really well put together device. Finish and parts were all the quality I expected for the price. My only complaint is the lack of detailed instructions. All you get is a parts list and a picture. Here's a link to the PDF file on their website...
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/filemanager/download/1248/
Finished around 3:30. Total time on the install about 6 hours. It takes a while to figure out how things come apart the first time you do it. Next time I'll have the experience on this bike. I highly recommend anyone taking this on to use the service manual to take her down to where you can get to that suspension linkage. Don't even think about it if you don't have a good lift to get her off the floor.
Final results....centerstand sweetness. :D
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that looks great - good job. all though it makes me sick how clean your bike is, im running out to my garage right now to start scubbing :)
QuoteMan does that stick/whatever that is look unstable
actually quite stable. you only jack it up high enough to get the wheel off the ground. i ground one end to a point so it will sit in the clamp hole on the back, and welded on a 1/2 pipe to use it for the front. (goes under the skidplate bar) its used strictly as an emergency lift in the field. in the garage i use wood and a jack too.
Thanks for the write up, will come in handy.
CBAT,
What windshield do you have installed. At 6' I'm looking for something that will make highway speeds less combative.
Thanks
I don't know. It came with the bike. One of the more seasoned steamer owners may be able to identify it. It does very well at highway speeds. I'm 6'2" and the airstream hits just about the peak on my MX helmet that I wear this time of year. The side slips around my shoulders nicely yet provides enough air to stay relatively cool in the Texas heat.
Hey Bruce,
Nice work on your install. I've got an OEM centerstand on my '98 and I couldn't live without it. I rarely use the side stand.
Just wanted to say that on your Sept 6 post, on the first close up picture of your suspension linkage etc, I noticed that your chain tensioner appears to be missing its rubber block (gold colored bracket with two holes in it). There should be a big rubber block on the end there and it looks like your bracket is rubbing directly on your chain (not good). Don't worry tho, it's a $10 item from Triumph and easy to install.
Regards,
Brendan R.
'98 BRG Tiger
San Jose, CA
Quote from: "BR"Hey Bruce,
Nice work on your install. I've got an OEM centerstand on my '98 and I couldn't live without it. I rarely use the side stand.
Just wanted to say that on your Sept 6 post, on the first close up picture of your suspension linkage etc, I noticed that your chain tensioner appears to be missing its rubber block (gold colored bracket with two holes in it). There should be a big rubber block on the end there and it looks like your bracket is rubbing directly on your chain (not good). Don't worry tho, it's a $10 item from Triumph and easy to install.
Regards,
Brendan R.
'98 BRG Tiger
San Jose, CA
(http://mudhen.smugmug.com/photos/51018961-M.gif) Hey Brendan!
You mean you don't have to take the swingarm off? Boooring. :lol:
Good eye!
Thanks for letting me know. Since I've only had the critter for a little over a month I'm still learning all the parts.
Quote from: "CBAT"I don't know. It came with the bike. One of the more seasoned steamer owners may be able to identify it. It does very well at highway speeds. I'm 6'2" and the airstream hits just about the peak on my MX helmet that I wear this time of year. The side slips around my shoulders nicely yet provides enough air to stay relatively cool in the Texas heat.
I believe that's a "Power-Bronze" shield on there.
Hey Bruce!
Glad this post is still here for visual reference. I am doing my MoTec stand today and also installing my new carb floats. I cant wait to get it done and back together to make sure it all worked out the way I am hoping it will!
Just wanted to thank ya again for this post with pics.
Stu
Quote from: "Stuie"Hey Bruce!
Glad this post is still here for visual reference. I am doing my MoTec stand today and also installing my new carb floats. I cant wait to get it done and back together to make sure it all worked out the way I am hoping it will!
Just wanted to thank ya again for this post with pics.
Stu
Hi Stu,
Just now saw this post. You are welcome. :wink:
I had our Triumph shop install the SW-Motech center stand this week. I cant comment on the install, they billed me for 2hrs.
But as far as utility of the stand, I'm amazed. I thought it would be harder to get the bike up on it. I'm about 2months out of a sling on my right arm, rotator cuff repair an capsular tightening, so I was wondering how much shoving it would take from my arms, as I'm definitely not at full strenght yet... Well, basically none, and it was damn near effortless to put it up on the C-stand..
I imagine with the extension Stretch(?) showed in his c-stand mod, you could practically get it up w/out using your arms...
Well worth the $$$ imo, an now it will be far easier to tackle the various DIY jobs.. :D
In my mind, there is no good reason for a chain driven bike not to have a centerstand. :wink:
Ok, I finally broke down and ordered my SW-Motech center stand and was somewhat daunted by the task as well. Having had most of these parts off to mount the crash bars I figured what the heck. All went well until I went to put the exhaust back on at the header. There are three metal 'gaskets' that appear to be pretty well fused to the exhaust pipes. Try as I might I cannot get them to slide back into the header to get the mounting covers to screw down flush to the header. I ended up with a bit of an exhaust leak that is visible as smoke right where the pipes join to the header. I am loathe to take the radiator all the way off to get to it but any suggestions would be appreciated.
The triumph center stand for steamers comes with three new copper gaskets for the headpipe
It will be easiest to just suck it up and take the bleedin radiator out of the way !
my other thought is that perhaps what I am seeing is the grease that the manual recommended putting on the gaskets is simply burning off and I am not seeing exhaust. I would fell better if the things fit back in flush though.
Any tips for getting the big spring hooked on the centrestand? I got the smaller spring fairly easily, but the big one is a b!t*h.
MSR spring puller
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I've got something similar to that, but it is easier said than done. It is tough to get in there to pull.
Edit: I got it on. I guess I just needed more cursing & swearing to get the job done. :twisted:
i talked with twisted throttle today and according to the picture in the directions and what they said it should be a 1/2 hour job. anybody do one in the last couple of years.
I just did mine last week. I suppose it is a 1/2 hr job if you don't factor the time it takes to remove the exhaust, disassemble the suspension linkage and put everything back together. It took me about 3-4 hrs total, but it isn't that big of a job.
thanks Scott. was that on a new Tiger or your 96? did you need new exhaust gaskets?
It was on my '96 Tiger (I don't have a new one yet :( ). I just slid the exhaust off at the joint below the footpegs, so I didn't replace any gaskets. Maybe I missed something, but it seemed like it was just one pipe fitting inside another. The only thing I noticed was some ice/water in the cross-over pipe. I guess it is important to take it for a real hard ride before you put it away for the winter.
Quote from: "D-Fuzz"I just slid the exhaust off at the joint below the footpegs, so I didn't replace any gaskets. .
same here.. biggest 'problem' was trying to balance the bike whilst I fitted the bolt through the stand and the shock linkage.. :shock:
thanks guys but the 08 is different. It has two boss's on the bottom of the case and you can run a bolt right through without getting near the shock link so only 07 & up info counts..
Quote from: "steve@stihlse.com"thanks guys but the 08 is different. It has two boss's on the bottom of the case and you can run a bolt right through without getting near the shock link so only 07 & up info counts..
yeah but you are in a steamer thread not an 07 and up thread , it is you who is in the wrong place .............just sayin :shock:
sorry, brand new here and to Triumph. where do i need to be?
Quote from: "steve@stihlse.com"sorry, brand new here and to Triumph. where do i need to be?
in the section that is for Roadies .............but be forewarned that this board doesn't have a lot of activity for the newer tigers .
we are mainly up to 2006 tigers even though there is a section for the 07 and newer .
http://tiger1050.com/ (http://tiger1050.com/) is going to be alot more active for you and it is only for 1050 tiger's
Just finished installing my SW-Motech center stand. Not too bad. 2-1/2hrs cause I didn't have the exhaust removed and I had to install and uninstall it 3x......???
First time I forgot the center stand! LOL! :icon_scratch:
Second time I realised I should've removed the 2 screws from underneath to hook the spring thingy too. Stand was in the way of one of the screws.... :icon_evil:
Third times a charm! :icon_mrgreen:
It's nice that the pics for this mod were still active. It's a shame others are gone, I am a kinesthetic learner. I work well with pics! :icon_study: