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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Tama's Tigre on September 19, 2007, 01:12:58 AM

Title: Passing Button
Post by: Tama's Tigre on September 19, 2007, 01:12:58 AM
Ok, dumn question, but, what the hell is a "Passing Button"  :?:
Title: Passing Button
Post by: noivson on September 19, 2007, 01:57:42 AM
Flash of High Beams to the preceding vehicle.
Look Out 'I'm moving on!'
See you later Allilgator

Opposite side of High/Low light switch....Left controls.
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Post by: Tama's Tigre on September 19, 2007, 05:12:40 AM
Noivson,

I tried flipping it but didn't see anything happen, but now that you tell me what it is  :idea:  I know why I didn't see the highbeams flash... it's because my highbeams were already on.  I ALWAYS ride with my highbeams on.   :shock:  Be seen, or die.  :!:

Thanks  :D
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Post by: blacktiger on September 20, 2007, 11:55:09 AM
Quote from: "Tama's Tigre"Noivson,

I tried flipping it but didn't see anything happen, but now that you tell me what it is  :idea:  I know why I didn't see the highbeams flash... it's because my highbeams were already on.  I ALWAYS ride with my highbeams on.   :shock:  Be seen, or die.  :!:

Doh!  :oops:
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Post by: Tama's Tigre on September 21, 2007, 12:24:55 AM
Told you tigers it was a dumn question  :oops:
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Post by: Rod on September 23, 2007, 01:33:23 PM
Just hope I'm not on the same bit of road when you're coming my way.

HIGH BEAMS ALL THE TIME?

YOU GOTTA BE JOKING.......!

Rod
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Post by: Tama's Tigre on September 23, 2007, 03:18:07 PM
Rod,

Maybe in London, you don't have the motorcycle fatalities we have here in the states.  The most common is someone making a left turn in front of you because "they didn't see you."  

According to the Hurt Study, (the most comprehensive motorcycle safety study to date): "The failure of motorists to detect and recognize motorcycles in traffic is the predominating cause of motorcycle accidents. The driver of the other vehicle involved in collision with the motorcycle did not see the motorcycle before the collision, or did not see the motorcycle until too late to avoid the collision."

According to the National Association of State Motorcycle Safety Administrators: "Use high beams rather than low beams and consider using a modulating headlight if your state allows it."

It is common practice here, to ride with your highbeams on during the day.  Because of the ambient (day) light, on-comming highbeams are not blinding, but they do (help) make you stand out to the cages.  At night, however, I would of course, dim the highbeam to any on-comming traffic (including you, my friend, if we were sharing "the same bit of road").  

No, I'm not joking... It's a matter of survival.  Sorry if I offended your sensibilities.

Tama

PS: any one else, besides Rod, have a constructive opinion  :?:
Title: High Beams ATT
Post by: noivson on September 23, 2007, 10:08:05 PM
Personally I don't use 'em all the time. Being noticed, as you know IS very prudent. In the US motorcyclists are not given fair share of the road. Any tips to help be seen are in your favor. Hi-Vis colors have become popular. Turn signals on (not flashing) help. Personally I'm not too reserved when out and about:
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Post by: Rod on September 23, 2007, 11:36:05 PM
I had forgotten that you see more bright sunshine in the States and high beam would be more visible. Here in the U.K we haven't seen the sun for about six months being covered by a permanent rain cloud! So low beam is good enough... My wife and I went to Florida last week just to refresh our minds as to what sun and heat are really like. A bit sticky but it was  very nice all the same!!

Rod
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Post by: Tama's Tigre on September 24, 2007, 01:58:33 AM
Apology accepted   :?
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Post by: iansoady on September 24, 2007, 04:02:25 PM
Although it "makes sense" intuitively that headlights make you more visible, there is substantial research to indicate that under many conditions they actually make it harder to see you. They can also look as if you're flashing your lights when the bike is going over bumps.

There are some interesting discussions here (http://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129442) and here (http://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195716)
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Post by: blacktiger on September 24, 2007, 08:06:11 PM
There's also a difference between being seen and blinding the poor fuckers.

Oh, I forgot they're blind anyway. Silly me.

But, it's acknowledged that being dazzled makes judging speed and distance harder.
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Post by: TRKTEK on September 28, 2007, 09:09:55 PM
I ride on low beam during the day, and use the passing lamp feature to draw attention at intersections when I see acager signalling a left turn.....I work that poor button so hard sometimes  :D ......seems to wake them up
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Post by: zadok_oz on September 29, 2007, 12:26:42 AM
Getting back to the original question......I have never seen the pass button used yet when someone is about to overtake, even tho that is what I believe it is for. I think all road users are supposed to flash if I remember rightly. :shock:
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Post by: TigerTrax on September 30, 2007, 03:32:40 AM
Here in the USA...

1. Flashing another driver is interpreted as 'road rage' and ticketable.

2. Flashing sometimes confuses other drivers because they do not know why you are flashing.

But we Tiger riders know what it's for:
GTFOOTW !

So FLASH all you want!
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Post by: Tama's Tigre on September 30, 2007, 04:54:04 AM
Tiger Trax is correct.  In the US flashing your highbeams could mean "there's a cop down the road... slow down." Flashing from truckers means "go ahead and change lanes in front of me."  And the most universal interpretation of flashing in the US is "go ahead, I'm yielding to you," that's the one that scares me, because if I flash I'm inviting someone to cut in front of me.  US driver's are bad, Houston drivers are worse... I should know, I was a Houston cop for 20 years.  I just assume, keep my highbeams on, so no matter what they're thinking... THEY SEE ME.  

Today, I was 2-up with my 15 year old, coming down a 60 mph 2-way road.  An idiot cage was about to make a left turn in our path.  I slammed on the brakes hoping for the best (no way to avoid a collision, just minimize the damage), and at the last second, the idiot saw us.  Maybe it was the high beam, maybe it wasn't.  But what ever it was, HE SAW US, and my boy and I are here to talk about it.  So ya'll do what you want, and do what's best for you.  But for Christ's sake, get off my back with your petty sophomoric chastisements, and, LIVE AND LET LIVE  :!:
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Post by: Stretch on September 30, 2007, 10:34:02 PM
Settle down.
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