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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Sasquatch on November 25, 2007, 07:43:21 PM

Title: Rear shock, I am on a mission.
Post by: Sasquatch on November 25, 2007, 07:43:21 PM
I have been able to do wonders with the stock KLR 650 shock, so I am now looking to do the same with our Tiggers.  I run a suspension rebuilding business on the side and have done it for many years.  But I am starting to take it really seriously lately.

What I did with my stock KLR shock was to gut it, replace the internals with a Race Tech Gold Valve, add on a Fox remote reservoir with adjustable compression, replace the junk stock spring with a Hypercoil unit (any weight you need) and bingo, created a high end aftermarket shock for a fraction of the price.

Here is my prototype.  I have got all the details sorted now with valving and am even having a custom braided line made with AN fittings.

(http://sasquatch.smugmug.com/photos/129470391-M.jpg)

I would like to do the same for the Tiger.  Before I rip my shock apart, I would like to see if anyone has a stock shock laying around that I could source for R&D.  If you want it back, fully modified, you will get it for my cost of the parts, labor is free.  Been watching fleabay with no luck.

If you would like to contact me off this list for details, please just email me:  jobesfzr (at) yahoo.com

In the spirit of sharing information, I will also answer any questions you have if you have the ability and wish to do it yourself.  It is not rocket science, but there is some tools and experience that will make your life much easier.

Any business generated from this list will get a portion of the proceeds donated back to the listmeister.
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Post by: zombie on November 25, 2007, 09:14:54 PM
Hi Sasquatch
can you rebuild my hagon for me , it's the cheaper one witout the remote unit
cheers
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Post by: Sasquatch on November 25, 2007, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: "zombie"Hi Sasquatch
can you rebuild my hagon for me , it's the cheaper one witout the remote unit
cheers

Send me an email with your phone number and I will call you.  Should be no problem at all.
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Post by: littlefield on November 26, 2007, 04:43:29 PM
PM sent.
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Post by: blacktiger on December 02, 2007, 11:22:32 AM
Great idea to modify the stock shock as it already has a remote pre-load adjuster. Something a lot of after market shocks are missing. Damn shame I'm on the other side of the pond.
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Post by: McGuiver on December 02, 2007, 01:37:26 PM
When you get it sorted out, I would be VERY interested in purchasing one! Let us all know!
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Post by: littlefield on December 02, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
I've been talking to Mr. Sasquatch about doing mine and will send it off pretty quickly. Too bad we're in the middle of some of our best riding weather here in south Texas.  Anyway, we need to figure out the best place to hang the remote reservoir. Personally, I'd like to see it hung off the back of the shock behind the preload adjuster.
Anybody know where the Hyperpro reservoir gets mounted? A picture would be great.
I'll let ya'll know how it turns out.
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Post by: JetdocX on December 02, 2007, 07:09:26 PM
Hey 'squatch,

I wish you had been a month or so earlier on this.  I'm buying an aftermarket Penske that maybe I can put a hold on.........

Either way, I'd be happy to work something out on the stock unit.  It's sitting on my garage floor right now awaiting disposition.

It's from my 98 Steamer.

Still interested?
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Post by: Sasquatch on December 03, 2007, 05:23:50 AM
Quote from: "JetdocX"Hey 'squatch,

I wish you had been a month or so earlier on this.  I'm buying an aftermarket Penske that maybe I can put a hold on.........

Either way, I'd be happy to work something out on the stock unit.  It's sitting on my garage floor right now awaiting disposition.

It's from my 98 Steamer.

Still interested?

Yes I am.  Littlefield is sending his from an '07, that will take care of the streeters, If I can do yours that will cover the steamers and either I do someone else's or just pull mine for the girlies.  Then I will have all the years covered.

I will need to chat with you via email or phone to really understand your riding styles so I can taylor the shock for you.  I also need to know where you want to mount the reservoir.  I can do remote reservoir's up to about 25" away before the hose length starts to affect the dampening.  Here is how I have mine on the KLR mounted.  Just to give you ideas.

(http://sasquatch.smugmug.com/photos/135226756-S.jpg)

(http://sasquatch.smugmug.com/photos/135226810-S.jpg)

I am so totally pleased with the way my shock works on the KLR now.  I ride with a group of KLR riders exploring the rougher areas of the Idaho back country.  My bike goes through it so much smoother than anyone elses, even those with the Progressive 420 shock.

Keep in mind though.  I promise that this will make the back end of the bike feel so good that if you have a pre '07 bike, you will really need to do the Race Tech emulators in your forks as well.  Most of you handy with a wrench can do it yourself.  If you do not feel comfortable, I can do that as well.  But it is really needed.  You will not believe the difference in your bike.
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Post by: JetdocX on December 03, 2007, 06:02:04 AM
Forks being done as we speak.  I had the emulators on the BMW and liked them so much I decided to buck up again. 8)

Remote reservoir has already been done by Triumph, LH side next to frame.  Just below the funky $80 upper coolant hose.
(http://jetdoc.smugmug.com/photos/208296999-M.jpg)


PM in work..............
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Post by: Advwannabe on December 08, 2007, 01:33:29 PM
I was just whining about the shock in my Girly on the Iron Butt Thread Sasquach,

I have to go back to sea for several months January 7 next year. I'd like to ride Tigger while I'm home but if you still don't have a volunteer after Christmas, I'm your man.
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Post by: Sasquatch on December 09, 2007, 02:19:27 AM
Get ahold of me before you leave.  Working on an 07 tigger's now.
Title: I'm interested in the re-build!
Post by: pizzaman383 on December 09, 2007, 09:25:28 PM
I'd love to upgrade the rear shock without buying a whole new unit.  Please keep the news coming.

For those sticking with the stock shock, I relocated the preload adjuster so that it can be adjusted without removing the seat.  I took the adjuster unit and bracket off and mounted the unit upside down and backwards.  This makes the adjuster nut accessible from below.  I use a hex wrench with a universal joint and voila - easy to adjust!
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Post by: Sasquatch on December 10, 2007, 03:48:16 AM
I am right in the middle of the 07 Tiger's shock.  Pretty cool design inside.  Nice to know it is not as cheap as the emulsion (nitrogen and shock oil mix) shocks installed on the KLR.  Downside is that mounting a remote reservoir will not be possible.  But, I will be able to re-valve it for the new heavier spring and his riding style, install new seals, and install a shrader valve for charging the nitrogen reservoir.  All for less than $300.

For 95% of the riders out there, this will be a wonderful upgrade over stock without breaking the bank.  For the 5%ers, Penske or Works Performance full blown racing shock will be your option, at a much higher price.

As soon as I get done with the 07, I will be tearing into mine, a late '01 955 shock.

Jay
Suspensions by Sasquatch
jobesfzr @ yahoo.com (take out the spaces)
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Post by: katoomon on January 06, 2008, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: "Sasquatch"As soon as I get done with the 07, I will be tearing into mine, a late '01 955 shock.

Jay
Suspensions by Sasquatch
jobesfzr @ yahoo.com (take out the spaces)

How about an update?  This is a great idea, and a potentially great service.  I am playing around with mounting locations for front end sub tanks right now.  It is not looking good for a location that is reliable and may go to the gold valve front end.
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Post by: HappyMan on January 06, 2008, 12:46:02 AM
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Post by: CBAT on January 06, 2008, 07:10:31 PM
I know my '96 needs to be rebuilt. It's the one by Kayaba with the remote mounted on the left side just under the lower fairing. I have never done any shock work so put me on the list if you are interested in this one.  :D
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Post by: littlefield on January 07, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
I just got done installing and road testing the shock on my 1050 that Sasquatch redid for my. Excellent results for a lot less $$ than a new replacement. I'm lazy and won't retype the thread but look on www.Tiger1050.com (http://www.tiger1050.com) under Accessories and Products for a more complete description.
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Post by: Bliker on January 09, 2008, 10:28:04 PM
I'm also interested in having the stock shock redone. It's alot cheaper than the Penske I was considering.
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Post by: motoexplorer on January 10, 2008, 03:10:58 AM
Hey Sasquatch.....this is one of the California Kids from the Kamiah, ID Ride-In. You had to pop the clutch on my Silver 06 down Elk City Wagon Rd cause my battery died!

Anyway...if you haven't torn apart your Girly I have an extra 06 shock ready for R&D. Let me know if you still need one.
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Post by: Sasquatch on January 10, 2008, 08:49:51 PM
Bliker, let me know off line and I can get it done for you.

motoexplorer, thanks, but I am just doing mine.  I got the 1050 Tiggers handled, now I am getting the Girlies done.  

This mod is turning out to be really cost effective.  (wonder if I should charge more  :lol: )  I have a bunch of KLR shocks out there and the owners love them.  I even have one guy who removed his Progressive shock and sold it on eBay because mine worked better for less cost.

My email addy is jobesfzr at yahoo.com if you are interested.
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Post by: aeronca on April 01, 2008, 11:53:47 PM
sasquatch, my '95 just blew its seals and pissed most of the fluid out. have you done any steamers? and if so pm me, im in the market as we speak.   thanks   eric
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