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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: brad1098 on December 27, 2007, 03:27:14 PM

Title: Clutch shudder?
Post by: brad1098 on December 27, 2007, 03:27:14 PM
Has anyone experienced this? My 02 has done this since I bought it with 1700mi.  After taking rolling corner, rolling stop or traffic slow down a crack of the throttle will cause the clutch to shudder.  At least thats what I think it is?  It only happens when the rev's are low, maybe below 3000.  Im not dogging it hard, just normal riding.  The clutch does not actually slip, just shudder, could it be the torque at that rpm?  Now with 8000 miles it has not changed, doesn't really bother me just thought there could be a remedy.
Title: Clutch Cargo!!
Post by: noivson on December 27, 2007, 10:31:38 PM
Pull up next to a tree let the clutch out slowly...poor mans way of removing high spots on the friction and steel discs...
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Post by: blacktiger on December 27, 2007, 11:10:07 PM
It's nothing to do with the clutch. It's a case of ; "they all do that".
In my opinion it's the chain vibrating in harmony with the firing order at around 3000rpms.
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Post by: katoomon on December 28, 2007, 03:33:34 PM
It could just be driveline lash in the "they all do it" department.  That wasn't addressed until '06.  You can use the clutch, just a slight slip, when powering back up or a critically aware half-crack of the throttle; or, drag your rear brake very slightly when vertical.  Chain too loose?
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Post by: Stretch on December 28, 2007, 03:42:22 PM
I would tend to agree with Katoomon.  My '05 is quite smooth when the chain isn't worn.
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Post by: CBAT on December 28, 2007, 07:07:00 PM
My Steamer was real herky jerky until I replaced chain and sprockets. Now smooth as silk.  :D
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Post by: brad1098 on December 28, 2007, 07:16:38 PM
I thought about it more and it very well may be chain slap, however it has been the same before and after many chain adjustments and sprocket changes.  Good to know it is in the "they all do it category"

No worries.
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Post by: katoomon on December 29, 2007, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: "brad1098"I thought about it more and it very well may be chain slap, however it has been the same before and after many chain adjustments and sprocket changes.  Good to know it is in the "they all do it category"

No worries.

On a previous bike, I would have a heck of a time adjusting the chain; it was also an eccentric cam in the swingarm setup.  I could never get the axle right because the hash marks on either side of the swingarm weren't in sync.  

I finally got it sorted out by getting the axle and eccentrics at bottom dead center, and tightening the axle but leaving the swingarm pinch bolts slightly loose.  Chain adjustment and alignment was a whole lot easier after squaring up the axle.  Bike was still mediocre and uninspiring though.
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Post by: blacktiger on January 02, 2008, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: "brad1098"however it has been the same before and after many chain adjustments and sprocket changes.

Like I said. I think it's to do with harmonics between the chain length and the firing frequency. Think of it like a guitar string. Nothing to do with the chain being badly adjusted. I experienced the same thing with a Suzuki TS200R.
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