Happy Trails needs 15 orders to run a set of panniers and pannier mounts to fit the stock Tiger mounts.
We need fifteen people interested so let's start the tally.
1 - I'm in.
If postage to the UK isn't too expensive I might be interested.
For a steamer or Girly?
How much?
Price, finish details are important. Steamer or Girly? Also, if these fit the stock Tiger mounts, won't one have an exhaust cutout?
Fill us in.
Plus, I'm in Boise, just down the road, if you need some help. :)
Cheers!
Quote from: "JetdocX"For a steamer or Girly?
How much?
I assume Girly only. That is what I was looking at but I don't know the difference between the two bikes and their mounts.
Price would be assumed at this point to be the same as what their normal price is. Can't get confirmed pricing for a couple of weeks. We need to see if we can generate 15 people interested at this point.
Read the Jesse Bags thread for how this got started. It will save some confusion.
Quote from: "Chyron"Read the Jesse Bags thread for how this got started. It will save some confusion.
Great point. Here's the link. http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4036
Are you interested Chyron? I think the Tiger to Alaska is a great choice all Farkled up!
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Hey Guys...
The ONLY models that came with STOCK saddle bags was
2002 - 2006.I believe in 1999 - 2001... they were ADD-ON Accessory items... you need to make the comparison to see if they match the std mounts.
Steamers used GIVI mounts, not part of this product.
Cut out for exhaust?? No... you normally order a smaller size for the exhaust side... go to the website and find what you like... check the price.. and see if you are in the game.
If you're open to a friendly word...
You're not giving any information on these things. You're just posting a very basic description and asking folks to commit to buying a set.
You need to post more information on the type, style, and size of the bags, hardware, locks, how they will work with the Tiger mounts, materials, finishes, photos, etc.
People want to know what they're committing to before they'll go on record as saying they'll plunk down several hundred dollars for something sight unseen.
Quote from: "Stretch"You need to post more information on the type, style, and size of the bags, how the mounts will work with the Tiger mounts, materials, photos, etc.
People want to know what they're committing to before they'll go on record as saying they'll plunk down several hundred dollars for something sight unseen.
Yes, you are correct but unfortunately I know very little myself. All I know is what was posted in the Jesse bags post. That HT can do it and they can't answer anything until after the 18th.
I agree, but unfortunately I'm the wrong one to try and perpetuate this. I don't know Tim. If he could make a product for my Tiger I'm interested. I believe the thought was not to commit but to see a tally of those that might commit since we don't have enough info on it. Quite frankly it didn't sound like they could care less one way or the other if they made them for us....but it's easy to read something into an impersonal email response. Their response to me was simply "get 15 together and we can do it." Not that they'd love to sell me their product. :icon_scratch
Sherry's reply to one of my emails today indicated that they had this product for sale in the past (or that's the way it sounded anyway). I asked her some more questions, one of which were if they had any pictures. No reply on that yet.
Since I am a picky fugger I'd like to see them. I'm certainly willing to 'commit' on a contingency basis until I see the product, how it's made, what it's made out of. How close they place the bag onto the bike, etc... Looks like Bruin or TigerTrax or Curt might know Tim personally so maybe they can be of some help with logistics after the 18th. I know I'm not going anywhere significant on el Tigre before then so I can certainly wait. :pimp
Yes, I believe the only way we will get any momentum is if Happy Trails is willing to say "we'd love your business but in order to make anything on them I need to sell XX number of units. So how can we at Happy Trails help facilitate this?"
If any of the riders here that might have some pull with them can have a conversation with them about it maybe we can get something done. I had not intended to purchase until next riding season but if we need a group buy to make this happen I'll purchase now.
I sent Tim an email asking about:
Cost, I assume it will be the same as the regular kit price.
Pre-mounted? The way stock mounts work, they could be a bitch to line everything up just right.
If they are pre-mounted, would there be enough leg room for my short legged wife?
Strength? Will the stock mounts be strong enough to hold the all the extra crap the big boxes will hold?
I got the same reply. Tim was out an would answer on the 18th. After I get the answers I'll know if I'm in or not. I really won't need them till next year, but I may go ahead and get them.
Tim had these available in the past and got ZERO response...
When I contacted him about 8-10 months ago and he said that, I told him I had never heard about those mounts..... and I am pretty plugged into Tiger stuff... I suggested he re-think it. It may not be in the cards to put a lot of time into Tiger aftermarket.
Here's the COLD - HARD - FACTS:
1. Tiger owners are not the type who spend a lot of money on their bikes.
Especially approaching 15% of the cost of a new Tiger.
2. Triumph has pretty much soured the aftermarket support by making changes all too often and not giving aftermarket folks an opportunity to re-coup their investment or perhaps there is just nothing really more to add.
If you want to make this work... Ask Tim about a 'package deal' which will let him do a dedicated production run of 'X' number of units; Completed by 'Y' Date, at a specified cost+shipping. But then... ONE person has to push it. Contact all the message boards and get you numbers together.
You'll have a MILLION dumb-assed questions.... because that's what motorcyclists do .... just give them the facts and tell them to go to the website and see for themselves. Keep in mind... everybody has a 'buddy' that can do 'anything' for 1/2 the price... just get your number that you agreed on.
PS: Will they hold more weight because the bags are bigger.... ?
I can assure you.... they know more about what their panniers go
through than what others will ever dare to do. ( except Sasquatch...
he may be a bit 'touched'! )
Quote from: "TigerTrax"Tim had these available in the past and got ZERO response...
When I contacted him about 8-10 months ago and he said that, I told him I had never heard about those mounts..... and I am pretty plugged into Tiger stuff... I suggested he re-think it. It may not be in the cards to put a lot of time into Tiger aftermarket.
Here's the COLD - HARD - FACTS:
1. Tiger owners are not the type who spend a lot of money on their bikes.
Especially approaching 15% of the cost of a new Tiger.
2. Triumph has pretty much soured the aftermarket support by making changes all too often and not giving aftermarket folks an opportunity to re-coup their investment or perhaps there is just nothing really more to add.
If you want to make this work... Ask Tim about a 'package deal' which will let him do a dedicated production run of 'X' number of units; Completed by 'Y' Date, at a specified cost+shipping. But then... ONE person has to push it. Contact all the message boards and get you numbers together.
You'll have a MILLION dumb-assed questions.... because that's what motorcyclists do .... just give them the facts and tell them to go to the website and see for themselves. Keep in mind... everybody has a 'buddy' that can do 'anything' for 1/2 the price... just get your number that you agreed on.
PS: Will they hold more weight because the bags are bigger.... ?
I can assure you.... they know more about what their panniers go
through than what others will ever dare to do. ( except Sasquatch...
he may be a bit 'touched'! )
Yes I agree with everything you said. Everything except the part about Sasquatch since I don't know him... :roll:
I can't possibly get anything rolling without talking to Tim. I'd be happy to contact Tim after the 18th to see what we can do. It's next to impossible to try to organize a bunch of bikers around buying something without any detail. That, and I could organize 15 guys to say yes but I'd never be able to hold them to it. That's a risk the MFG has to take. I completely understand the business/profit end of things he has to deal with. I deal with it on a daily basis myself. I'll try to speak with Tim to see if he really has any interest and go from there. Thanks!
Quote from: "TigerTrax"PS: Will they hold more weight because the bags are bigger.... ?
I can assure you.... they know more about what their panniers go
through than what others will ever dare to do. ( except Sasquatch...
he may be a bit 'touched'! )
I know the panniers will hold more weight, duh... :D
Will the stock rack on the bike hold up to the extra weight. :?
HAPPY...
Tim could probably take names/orders/credit card numbers thru a cut-off date. If you have enough to make the production run .. he'll go ahead and charge each person, if not... CHECKMATE.
CHYRON:
Look at the mounts on your Tiger..
they are pretty substantial. I know Sasquatch has these panniers and
HT mounts on his Tiger..... FYI... Sasquatch rarely rides a road... lives in
I-DA-HO ! He and Happy Trails are almost inseparable... He's probably their ' go try and break these' guy!
I sent Tim an email today and explained pretty much the same thing and asked him to give me a call or drop me an email when he gets back so we could discuss if he'd like to try something again. I think Happy Man and Happy Trails could go hand in hand.... :oops:
Guys.. I just rec'd an e-mail and comments from Sasquatch ( Jay Jobes ).
He stated that 2 things became obvious:
The rubber mount bushings on the Tiger mounts needed to be replaced
a couple of times ( PIA ) due to vibration.
Secondly... once you get the aluminum panniers .... you'll never put the stock ones on again. So he would suggest just buying the Happy Trails
mount racks for a very solid mount.
Here are some pics: http://sasquatch.smugmug.com/gallery/372063#14812628 (http://sasquatch.smugmug.com/gallery/372063#14812628)
Sorry for my absence. I originally designed the mount for myself and HT. I wanted to be able to go back and forth between aluminum and the stock panniers. Trust my words. Once you have the aluminum panniers you will NEVER put the plastic ones back on.
With that fact, the SU racks are much better and stronger. They will actually add to the "roll cage" protection of your bike when you lay it over.
Anyone need a set of new roulette green panniers? Used only for one ride. Send me an email. I need to ebay the suckers.
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Sorry for my absence. I originally designed the mount for myself and HT. I wanted to be able to go back and forth between aluminum and the stock panniers. Trust my words. Once you have the aluminum panniers you will NEVER put the plastic ones back on.
With that fact, the SU racks are much better and stronger. They will actually add to the "roll cage" protection of your bike when you lay it over.
Anyone need a set of new roulette green panniers? Used only for one ride. Send me an email. I need to ebay the suckers.
Thanks for your input! I didn't need to buy the boxes till next year, anyway. This will take the pressure off. I can make it a Winter project next year.
Thanks for the pics! Looking through all of them, it looks to me like he changed the bags at some point? The ones that are black look to have a different shape to them. :?:
Hey, those boxes look great!
I have been thinking about just that very thing but I do believe that I would enjoy the fixing that uses the standard Triumph brackets.
I like to have choices in the configuration of my bike.
I use my bike with no boxes, just the top box, just the side boxes, all three boxes and I would dearly like to have a set of those Happy Boxes to use on their own or with the (GIVI) top box!
I really like to be flexible according to what I am doing or where I am going at the time.
The big problem for me is the "total cost", not only the initial cost of the boxes but also due to both the exchange rate and the shipping to New Zealand.
Please put me down as a very interested party but dependant on final all up cost of getting them here.
Cheers John.
Quote from: "oldrider"Hey, those boxes look great!
I have been thinking about just that very thing but I do believe that I would enjoy the fixing that uses the standard Triumph brackets.
I like to have choices in the configuration of my bike.
I use my bike with no boxes, just the top box, just the side boxes, all three boxes and I would dearly like to have a set of those Happy Boxes to use on their own or with the (GIVI) top box!
I really like to be flexible according to what I am doing or where I am going at the time.
The big problem for me is the "total cost", not only the initial cost of the boxes but also due to both the exchange rate and the shipping to New Zealand.
Please put me down as a very interested party but dependant on final all up cost of getting them here.
Cheers John.
I'll be talking to HT after the 18th to see what we can do and to see what kind of interest there is out there. Judging by this thread though I have serious doubts as to whether anyone would spend the money.
I'll let you know how it progresses.
Quote from: "pit0rz"Thanks for the pics! Looking through all of them, it looks to me like he changed the bags at some point? The ones that are black look to have a different shape to them. :?:
Black boxes are the ones I built. The aluminum ones were ones that HT mounted while my bike was at their shop for R&D work.
You can not go wrong with HT panniers. They are high quality, very stout, waterproof, hold a ton of crap and give the bike the rugged look it needs.
Take my recommendation with an understanding that I am not an employee of HT, but I am very good friends with them and a very loyal customer. Just want you to know to be fair, my opinion is slightly biased.
Quote from: "HappyMan"Quote from: "oldrider"Hey, those boxes look great!
I have been thinking about just that very thing but I do believe that I would enjoy the fixing that uses the standard Triumph brackets.
I like to have choices in the configuration of my bike.
I use my bike with no boxes, just the top box, just the side boxes, all three boxes and I would dearly like to have a set of those Happy Boxes to use on their own or with the (GIVI) top box!
I really like to be flexible according to what I am doing or where I am going at the time.
The big problem for me is the "total cost", not only the initial cost of the boxes but also due to both the exchange rate and the shipping to New Zealand.
Please put me down as a very interested party but dependant on final all up cost of getting them here.
Cheers John.
I'll be talking to HT after the 18th to see what we can do and to see what kind of interest there is out there. Judging by this thread though I have serious doubts as to whether anyone would spend the money.
I'll let you know how it progresses.
Hey, I was just trying to be upfront! It might prove to be just too much money when my other add on costs are taken into account!
If I was in USA it would be fine, I would give a firm yes! :? John.
Quote from: "oldrider"Quote from: "HappyMan"Quote from: "oldrider"Hey, those boxes look great!
I have been thinking about just that very thing but I do believe that I would enjoy the fixing that uses the standard Triumph brackets.
I like to have choices in the configuration of my bike.
I use my bike with no boxes, just the top box, just the side boxes, all three boxes and I would dearly like to have a set of those Happy Boxes to use on their own or with the (GIVI) top box!
I really like to be flexible according to what I am doing or where I am going at the time.
The big problem for me is the "total cost", not only the initial cost of the boxes but also due to both the exchange rate and the shipping to New Zealand.
Please put me down as a very interested party but dependant on final all up cost of getting them here.
Cheers John.
I'll be talking to HT after the 18th to see what we can do and to see what kind of interest there is out there. Judging by this thread though I have serious doubts as to whether anyone would spend the money.
I'll let you know how it progresses.
Hey, I was just trying to be upfront! It might prove to be just too much money when my other add on costs are taken into account!
If I was in USA it would be fine, I would give a firm yes! :? John.
That's cool. I didn't misunderstand you at all and I don't blame you one bit. I'm just a little doubtful as to whether we'll be able to pull off a group buy of any sort. No worries, just the facts. I'll be sure to keep everyone posted.
Thank you, they are nice looking boxes!
I thought the ones Stretch modified for his bike looked terrific too! John.
Happy Trails never got back to me. I'm swamped and out of the office this week and next. If I haven't heard from him when I'm back I will contact him once more.
Who were you talking to? I will be there tomorrow giving a suspension tech class.
HT gets VERY busy and things slip their minds. Not an excuse, but just the reality of it. They are still very good guys to deal with.
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Who were you talking to? I will be there tomorrow giving a suspension tech class.
HT gets VERY busy and things slip their minds. Not an excuse, but just the reality of it. They are still very good guys to deal with.
I was emailing the owner who was out of town until the 18th. Thanks!
Just thought I'd finish this thread. Happy Trails never got back to me and since there was a lack of interest I decided not to pester him anymore. It was a great idea I would have paid extra for. Oh well, looks like it'll be TT's for me when I get to it unless Jesse provides a set for the Tiger again.
Quote from: "HappyMan"Just thought I'd finish this thread. Happy Trails never got back to me and since there was a lack of interest I decided not to pester him anymore. It was a great idea I would have paid extra for. Oh well, looks like it'll be TT's for me when I get to it unless Jesse provides a set for the Tiger again.
Hi there Happy Man, yes it was a good idea and I appreciate your thought and effort!
Even from away down here, those side boxes look great and right now our (NZ) dollar is looking good against the "greenback" (USA) dollar!
I am currently sporting a "Thunderbike" tail pipe on my 06 Tiger and boy oh boy, has it turned me into juvenile delinquent, it sounds fabulous and does she "go"!
Unfortunately I burned a hole in my plastic side box, due to gunning her and riding her at max!!!!!
Sensational to ride but I just can't seem to ride her quietly anymore, so it (the pipe) is coming off and being given back to it's owner!
Mrs oldrider says it gives her a headache and has given me an ultimatum, buy the pipe if I want but she will not be riding with me any more!
Message received, loud and clear, so loud that now "I" understand how "her" headache feels!
Thanks again for the group buy initiative. Cheers John.
No problem OldRider. It's disappointing but "so it goes". As for the pipe....."Happy wife, happy life!" Take care.
Quote from: "oldrider"Message received, loud and clear, so loud that now "I" understand how "her" headache feels!
:ImaPoser :ImaPoser :ImaPoser
Err, I mean... I've heard your pain too. Apparently there is more than one source.
:roll: