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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Chris Canning on February 13, 2008, 10:11:49 AM

Title: Todays MCN
Post by: Chris Canning on February 13, 2008, 10:11:49 AM
For you boys who like over weight off roaders with spindly tyres, :cry: looks like all your birthdays going to come all in one go,Yamaha have a new 1200 twin coming and Triumph are supposed to have an off road version as well in the pipe line.
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Post by: aeronca on February 13, 2008, 08:01:50 PM
any pic's? where did you hear about it?
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Post by: blacktiger on February 13, 2008, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: "aeronca"any pic's? where did you hear about it?

No real pics, just a computer generated approximation of what the 1200 Super Ten might look like. i.e. the same as the 660 Tenere.

It was in the British "Motor Cycle News". Which included firm rumours (if such a thing exists) That Triumph has an off road Tiger1200 on the way. Aprilia has something "over 750" on the way. And KTM are to upgrade the 990ADV to 1190cc.

Of course, we're all still waiting for the 675 Tiger Cub. Had a go on a Street Triple the other day. WOW! What an engine. HEY, TRIUMPH, YOU LISTENING? WE WANT THAT ENGINE IN AN OFF ROAD CHASSIS FOR £6000.
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Post by: aeronca on February 13, 2008, 10:41:19 PM
cant seem to find the article. is it motorcyclenews.com? would love to see the yamaha.
Title: Re: Todays MCN
Post by: wvmike on February 13, 2008, 11:55:27 PM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"Yamaha have a new 1200 twin coming and Triumph are supposed to have an off road version as well in the pipe line.

Are they coming to the US? This is good news as I was getting ready to pull the trigger on an 08 GSA. If I can find info,may hold of for the big triumph
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Post by: zombie on February 14, 2008, 12:23:27 AM
try this
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Post by: Stretch on February 14, 2008, 12:47:19 AM
Would you be so kind as to zoom in on the Triumph portion, please?   :grnb
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Post by: Chris Canning on February 14, 2008, 01:18:00 PM
It says Triumph are working on a new version of the 3 cylinder Tiger,but unlike current offerings will be aimed at the serious off-road riders.
Expect it to be launched within 2 years and to feature the new generation triple engine around 1200cc with real offroad tyres.
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Post by: JetdocX on February 14, 2008, 03:15:26 PM
The world does not need ANOTHER 1200cc dirtbike.

How about something in the 8-900cc range? :evil:  :x
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Post by: aeronca on February 14, 2008, 04:57:52 PM
i hear you jetdocx, why the super huge pigs?  i was down ye ol' sicle shop the other day and they said they were selling the wee-strom like hotcakes. come triumph - get a freakin clue. some times bigger aint better.
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Post by: TigerTrax on February 14, 2008, 06:29:10 PM
The world may not need the MORE CUBES....
but we Americans need all the CUBES we can get!

We don't ride to the store...... We haul ass for 5 days... then come home!

How many 600 hp ZO6 Vettes will GM sell..... Plenty!

The world is coming to an end..... burn all the gas you can!

Our Global Warming is about to freeze my ass off!~
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Post by: aeronca on February 14, 2008, 09:48:00 PM
in that case, i'll take a BossHoss -  with off road tires thankyou very much. :lol:
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Post by: JetdocX on February 15, 2008, 12:50:53 AM
Bullshit!  I take my Tigger to the grocery store all the time.  And to work and on adventures.   :roll:
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Post by: eatalotapeaches on February 15, 2008, 01:05:40 AM
I'd be interested.  Of course I would prefer a lighter more manageable mid-weight, but at least it's a step in the right direction.
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Post by: Stretch on February 15, 2008, 01:22:04 AM
Unfortunately for those of us over 6'6", bikes with smaller engines do not usually translate into tall, long bikes.

I need a big bike.
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Post by: Mudhen on February 15, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
Quote from: "Stretch"Unfortunately for those of us over 6'6", bikes with smaller engines do not usually translate into tall, long bikes.

I need a big bike.

Then get a XR650R or 640Adv you huge bastard!   :lol:

I'll be happy with any off road Tiger.  But I'd be happier with a 675 based one...
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Post by: aeronca on February 15, 2008, 04:59:15 PM
oh yeah, well i want a 676.  but really a 675 would be the perfect switch. :D
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Post by: Stretch on February 16, 2008, 01:58:19 AM
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Quote from: "Stretch"Unfortunately for those of us over 6'6", bikes with smaller engines do not usually translate into tall, long bikes.

I need a big bike.

Then get a XR650R or 640Adv you huge bastard!   :lol:


But those bikes are a horrendous pain in the ass to ride for days on end.

My 955 is perfect for whut it iz... a comfy days-long tourer capable of exploring unimproved roads once you get there.
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Post by: Mudhen on February 16, 2008, 02:59:59 AM
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Quote from: "Stretch"Unfortunately for those of us over 6'6", bikes with smaller engines do not usually translate into tall, long bikes.

I need a big bike.

Then get a XR650R or 640Adv you huge bastard!   :lol:


But those bikes are a horrendous pain in the ass to ride for days on end.

My 955 is perfect for whut it iz... a comfy days-long tourer capable of exploring unimproved roads once you get there.

Have you ever owned a GS?
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Post by: Mudhen on February 16, 2008, 03:11:36 AM
Wouldn't an adventure oriented new Tiger be closer to an HP2 than a R1200GS Adventure?

What's the new Tiger weigh?  400lbs?  Crikees...this thing should KICK ASS!
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Post by: Stretch on February 16, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
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Quote from: "Stretch"Unfortunately for those of us over 6'6", bikes with smaller engines do not usually translate into tall, long bikes.

I need a big bike.

Then get a XR650R or 640Adv you huge bastard!   :lol:


But those bikes are a horrendous pain in the ass to ride for days on end.

My 955 is perfect for whut it iz... a comfy days-long tourer capable of exploring unimproved roads once you get there.

Have you ever owned a GS?

In my pre-Tiger days, I lusted for one, but reading about all the reliability problems talked me right out of it.
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Post by: flux on February 17, 2008, 03:47:50 PM
Here goes Triumph again...increasing engine displacement just to satisfy us dumb Americanos and our small penises.   :roll:   Anyone remember Bonneville 750's?  Best marketing experiment of all time.  

Personally, the 955 puts out more power than I am sure I will ever be capable of using to its full potential.  Why a 1200?  KTM and Triumph need to be ANTI Bimmers and this is not the way.  Hell, even BMW makes an 800 now, which I suspect most 1200GS riders should be on in the first place.  Anyway, seems the Triumphs are boatloads more reliable than the 950's or the GS's.  Not to mention a used one at a fraction of the cost.  

PS- being new to Triumph, where can I read more about this rumored Tiger Cub?  Sounds interesting.
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Post by: aeronca on February 17, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
Quote from: fluxHere goes Triumph again...increasing engine displacement just to satisfy us dumb Americanos and our small penises.   :roll:   were you peeking :oops: all kidding aside, i totaly agree
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Post by: HappyMan on February 17, 2008, 06:07:26 PM
I was putting my money down on an 800GS when I decided to buy the 955.  My point being that I was not looking for a bigger bike but smaller.  The 955 was smaller than my 1100 but still bigger than what I was looking for.  I did not buy the 1050 either.  Again, I was looking for smaller and lighter.  While the Tiger isn't too close to that for me it was still a better choice than the 800GS that is still not available.  If Triumph put out a smaller displacement bike I would buy it.
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Post by: flux on February 17, 2008, 06:23:34 PM
I bought the 955 b/c I wanted a bike I could comfortably do 2up touring with my wife one.  Also, I didn't have the $10K it would take to buy a decent used 950 and at more than half the price the Tiger is working out great...I cannot get over how SMOOTH this engine is.  Still, I think most people in this country have this 'keeping up with the Joneses' mentality which is unfortunate.
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Post by: eatalotapeaches on February 18, 2008, 08:46:35 PM
I have learned in life the Joneses' are usually broke, dumb, and have no sense of style.  

+1 for a MID-size bike.  I need something my scrawny butt can pick up by myself WHEN I drop it.
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Post by: blacktiger on February 20, 2008, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: "eatalotapeaches"+1 for a MID-size bike.  I need something my scrawny butt can pick up by myself WHEN I drop it.

I agree. The 955 Tigger is too heavy, especially with a full tank of fuel. The BMW boxers have an advantage there. They only fall over half way because the cylinders act as supports so you only have to pick them up from a 45 degree angle. They're just getting too complicated for real round the world stuff.
So, come on Triumph. I/we want a simple, light, off road capable 675 Tiger with a 21" front wheel.
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Post by: Chris Canning on February 20, 2008, 03:49:19 PM
I don't :wink:
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 04:34:25 PM
Me neither.
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Post by: zombie on February 20, 2008, 09:03:11 PM
nor I cos what I have is damn near perfection personified in a two-wheel transport thingy way, or in other words a very nicely sorted bit of kit
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
Your answer is better.
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Post by: Mudhen on February 20, 2008, 11:21:08 PM
I don't want one, either.

I NEED one.
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Post by: CBAT on February 20, 2008, 11:48:34 PM
Even if I never get one, they can't let BMW rule the class. It would be sweet to see Triumph outsell them in the mid-weight adventure bikes.
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Post by: Mudhen on February 20, 2008, 11:57:30 PM
I wonder what the new 690 Adventure will be like...it looks like it at least has a more reasonable seat height.

But will it have the power.
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Post by: Bear on February 21, 2008, 12:22:21 AM
Me I'm 6'4" and love my Tiger 06.
Wife "Runt" would love a tiger cub, if the 675 motor is any thing like the Street Triple then it would be a formidable fighter on and off road.
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Post by: aeronca on February 21, 2008, 12:40:57 AM
i freakin got it - how about two.  a 675 and a 1200. what the hell, there's a v and a wee strom, a 650 and 950 adventurer, so why not a tiger and cub? hey lets wish big.
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Post by: Mudhen on February 21, 2008, 02:17:32 AM
Quote from: "aeronca"i freakin got it - how about two.  a 675 and a 1200. what the hell, there's a v and a wee strom, a 650 and 950 adventurer, so why not a tiger and cub? hey lets wish big.

Now that sounds like a party to me!

(http://mudhen.smugmug.com/photos/16320547_wJKJB-L.jpg)

Canning will still bitch...by the time those bikes come out he'll be using 15" rims front/rear.  (only goofing, Chris! (http://mudhen.smugmug.com/photos/51018961_RyC5F-L.jpg))

Aren't we always a couple generations behind the rest of the world here in the US?  I've always wanted everything you guys had over there (except gas prices, I guess).  We're finally getting into Mini's/MINI's, finally getting into adventure bikes, heck, we're even finally getting Beckham - but it sounds like you didn't want him anymore anyway...just like adventure bikes...
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Post by: TigerTrax on February 21, 2008, 03:38:25 AM
Ayyyyyyyyye...
Most of ya miss the point....

It's not the small seat or frame that's a bitch....

I got no place to put me size 15 FEET!

I can restum on the pegs.... but Im brakin and shiftin at the same time..

It's a Bitch I tell ya!

Think I'll put some skates on me boots and letum hang down on the road!
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Post by: 2004Tiger on February 21, 2008, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: "TigerTrax"Ayyyyyyyyye...
Most of ya miss the point....
It's not the small seat or frame that's a bitch....
I got no place to put me size 15 FEET!
I can restum on the pegs.... but Im brakin and shiftin at the same time..
It's a Bitch I tell ya!
Think I'll put some skates on me boots and letum hang down on the road!
I'm in the same boat...er, boot. I had to re-bend my 2004 shift lever, make it longer, to get my boot under it. I like the 2007 for its road qualities but I would have to cut and weld the lever to use it.
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Post by: blacktiger on February 29, 2008, 10:37:23 PM
You see, what I'm getting at with wanting a smaller, lighter bike is that when you want to go adventure touring properly, you don't want the bike starting off weighing in at 200kgs BEFORE you load on all the crap you have to take. Plus, as I get older (than my 52 years now) I want to be able to pick the 'effin' thing up after it lays down for a rest.
I too wonder what the new KTM690ADV is going to be like. The 640 was just too tall for mere mortals.
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 04, 2008, 07:32:18 PM
Don't know what the 690 will be like but the 950 I rode recently was horrible. Way rougher than the Tiger, seat too high for my 5'9" frame, vibey with a saddle that felt like a thin narrow brick. Lots more poke though, engine was very quick compared with the Tiger.
Shan't be swapping my 855i yet.
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