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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: Dr. Mordo on February 23, 2008, 06:00:45 AM

Title: I am possibly hosed
Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 23, 2008, 06:00:45 AM
I bought my steamer broken, if you recall the sprag thread I posted.  The dude I bought it from had never registered it in his name because it was broken, so the title is in the name of the owner before last, so to speak.  It is signed and everything is legit, but f+cking Texas titles don't have the price on them so you need a separate bill of sale.  So I'll need a BoS from the owner before last.  

I'm military and had planned to register it in Florida, so I called them and they said the previous owner would have to register it in his name,and then sell it to me with a bill of sale.  It is apparently illegal to not register a vehicle in your name after you buy it, and then resell it.

So I tracked down the owner before last's father (Google), and his son who owned the bike, is supposed to call me.  

So, if I can't get a bill of sale, I guess I'm screwed.  I'll be happy to pay the dude for a handwritten piece of paper, but he has to call me first.
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Post by: JetdocX on February 23, 2008, 06:11:36 AM
Good luck.  :wink:

Edit:  FWIW, your state should be able to do a lien search on that bike and without lien, you should be able to register it and title it in your name.

It may help to do a bit more pushing.  Your average DMV employee typically needs a bit of motivation.
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Post by: JetdocX on February 23, 2008, 06:15:28 AM
At least you don't have to deal with CARB.
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 23, 2008, 06:17:24 AM
What's CARB?

I appreciate the tip about the lien search.  I do have a friend of a friend at the DMV that I haven't talked to yet.  She's a higher up there, so maybe she knows a work-around.
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Post by: JetdocX on February 23, 2008, 06:41:57 AM
Kalifornica Air Resource? Board.

I'm looking at a move back to Cali and need to see if my Steamer can be registered there even though I bought it in SoCal and it was registered.  

Confused yet?

My bike has no evap cans and that was a Cali requirement back in 98.  I'm thinking I'll make some dummy cans to point to when the DMV drone does the visual inspection.  I hope it works. :wink:
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 23, 2008, 06:51:30 AM
That does suck, especially since you just rebuilt the bike.  Otherwise selling it would be a possibility, but since you just redid it I'm sure you want to ride the wheels off it for at least a year or two.

As far as I can tell, Florida is one of the very few states that still does no vehicle inspection of any kind.  It can be a deathtrap that belches black poison and they don't care as long as I have a bill of sale.

Which, of course, I lack.
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Post by: JetdocX on February 23, 2008, 07:08:03 AM
No, I'm keeping it.  Too much time and effort into it to sell it now.

I have a few friends locally who will let me "relocate" to their house while residing in the People's Republic of Kali. :wink:

I'm hoping that I can register the bike there as it was registered there less than a year ago.  I'm just being the glass half-full kinda guy right now, which makes sense since the great beaurocracy of the Kali DMV is going to be involved in some way. :evil:
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 23, 2008, 07:13:16 AM
Dude, we check this forum way too often.

I wish you luck with the CARB and your Tiger.  It sounds like we are in similar boats on opposite ends of the country.
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 24, 2008, 06:22:02 AM
Well, the former owner whose name is on the title called me today and we met so he could sign a bill of sale for me.  I bought him lunch and we hung out and talked about bikes for a while.  He was very cool about it.

So, I am not hosed.
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Post by: JetdocX on February 24, 2008, 06:29:03 AM
Nice, Dr.!
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Post by: Mustang on February 24, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: "Dr. Mordo"So, I am not hosed.
no you got a great deal on the best style of tiger there is .
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 24, 2008, 05:57:15 PM
Yes, I am very anxious to get this thing on the road!  

To do before I can ride it:

Mount the rear tire I got in the mail Friday
get the carbs back from the dude rebuilding them (they had never been rebuilt)
Register it?  (I doubt I can wait til I'm totally legal)

Talking to the dude whose name was on the title was pretty interesting.  He sold it with 74k miles, a full set of Givi bags, and a Givi windscreen.  When I got it, it had changed hands twice, so the bags and windscreen were gone, but the bike had been ridden almost 4000 miles while still registered to the original owner!  He was a little bummed that the bags and windscreen were no longer with the bike, but pleased that I was going to get it back on the road.  Apparently it had never had the sprag replaced with well over 70k miles on it.
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Post by: CBAT on February 24, 2008, 06:42:48 PM
I'm glad things are looking up for you.
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Post by: Stretch on February 24, 2008, 08:13:06 PM
Congrats on your de-hosing.
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on February 24, 2008, 08:35:37 PM
I am definitely pleased, now if I can de-hose the rest of my life I'll be in good shape.
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Post by: TigerTrax on February 25, 2008, 01:03:54 AM
Way to go 'hozee' ....

or is it ...

'hozer'.....

or..

'hozeta' ...

' I wuz getting hozed... then I wuzent' ...
so did I miss out on sumthing?
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Post by: Mustang on February 25, 2008, 09:04:10 PM
Quote from: "TigerTrax"' I wuz getting hozed... then I wuzent' ...
so did I miss out on sumthing?
just the un hosing
Hey jerr how are ya
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Post by: OregonTigerRider on March 25, 2008, 04:35:37 AM
jetdoc -
You're moving from another state, Kalifornyah could care less about whether the bike has any emissions control crap on it or not. They'll want to look at the vin # and the title / registration docs and that is it. The inspectors wouldn't know a evap can if it bit 'em on the arse.

Just sayin'
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Post by: JetdocX on March 25, 2008, 04:39:59 AM
How long have you been out of that state?
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Post by: OregonTigerRider on March 25, 2008, 05:07:53 AM
I've been out of California for about 4 years - but my daughter and son-in-law both still live there.

I assure you,, since you are moving into CA there will be NO emissions inspection of your motorcycle. DMV doesn't do it, CARB doesn't do it. Nobody does it. Not yet anyway.

Since the bike had a previous CA title there won't even be any "how many miles" or "is it CA Emissions stickered" questions, just a walk out to the bike for a VIN inspection and you'll be golden.

If you were buying a non-California emissions certified bike _as a resident of California_ and attempting to register it, that'd be a different thing. You're not. You're moving to the state, they want your registration money and your income tax money far more than they care about whether your bike is CA emissions legal or not.

There are a ton of threads on BARF and other CA specific moto sites that will back up what I'm telling you. On top of that, my statements come from my own experience moving into CA from Washington 6 years ago.

Me to DMV dude - "Hey, I just moved here from Seattle and I want to register my 3 motorcycles, none of them are CA emissions legal." DMV Dude - "Ok, let's look at your VIN numbers and titles and I'll take your money and give you your plates." Me - "I have a car too". Dude (not being as helpful) - "You have to get it emissions tested before I can give you plates." Bah. I had a German sourced Ford Sierra Cosworth with a big obvious hot-rod turbo on a 2.3litre twin cam (not exactly OEM for the car). It was not easy to get it plated...but I managed after a visit to the Referee.

You can check on the CA DMV website too, they'll 'splain how to register your bike again.

Cheers!
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Post by: JetdocX on March 25, 2008, 05:13:23 AM
Cool!  But they will hit me for the sales tax I did not pay. :cry:

Please tell me I'm wrong there too.
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