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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: deiferdog on April 13, 2008, 10:29:55 PM

Title: Tail riser / jack-up kit????
Post by: deiferdog on April 13, 2008, 10:29:55 PM
Does anyone know if you can get shorter dog-bones to raise the tail of a tiger ?
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Post by: Sasquatch on April 14, 2008, 12:30:45 AM
I am designing a set as we speak.  Should have firm details on them by mid week.
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Post by: Mudhen on April 14, 2008, 11:42:04 AM
An 18" rear wheel fits under there, too...for even more height if you want it...
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Post by: deiferdog on April 14, 2008, 11:29:43 PM
Nice one Sasquatch.  Please keep me updated - I'll def want a pair.

Interesting idea Mudhen - hadn't thought of doing it that way but it would def work - cheers.
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Post by: Mudhen on April 15, 2008, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: "deiferdog"Interesting idea Mudhen - hadn't thought of doing it that way but it would def work - cheers.

My 18" knobby just barely touches the center stand when the bike is unladen...so basically just when I'm pushing it (frequently), or when I'm airborne (much less frequently).  Almost went with a 19, glad I didn't now!
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Post by: Sasquatch on April 20, 2008, 10:47:49 PM
I have the proto set built and on their way back to the owner.  As soon as I get a thumbs up from him I can either just build them as protos (not as pretty) or get a group buy done and I will have them laser cut.  price will be the same at around $50 shipped conus.

They should be raising the rear just shy of an inch.
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Post by: Mudhen on April 21, 2008, 01:49:58 AM
Will that then necessitate a longer shock to take advantage of the extra height?

I've been wanting a trick 3-link suspension with spring locating cones and 12" Blingstein coilovers...but thought they'd be on the Rover, not on the Tiger   :P
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Post by: Sasquatch on April 23, 2008, 12:10:09 AM
Shock stays the same.  Just the relationship between the shock and swingarm changes.
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Post by: BykBoy on April 23, 2008, 03:59:34 PM
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Shock stays the same.  Just the relationship between the shock and swingarm changes.

Does this mean more ground clearence? If so, sign me up too...
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Post by: deiferdog on April 23, 2008, 10:26:12 PM
No - you won't get more get more ground clearance under the bike, all that will happen is that the back end of the bike will be about 2" higher, for a more "supermoto" look.
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Post by: BykBoy on April 24, 2008, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: "deiferdog"No - you won't get more get more ground clearance under the bike, all that will happen is that the back end of the bike will be about 2" higher, for a more "supermoto" look.

I see. This is not good for me as I am only 5'7"...  But I can see how this would work for some of you tall riders.

I've been thinking of getting my wheels replaced with a 18' rear and a 21' front for more ground clearence, but it would cost about $400 per wheel... I'm not sure it is worth it...
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Post by: Mudhen on April 24, 2008, 10:26:38 PM
Oooo...it brings up a good point.  So if we can get some that go the other way we won't lose ground clearance but we'll be able to put our feet down better!

I likey...
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Post by: deiferdog on April 25, 2008, 02:00:05 AM
Absolutley, although at 6'2" that isn't an option I'd be taking.  I have done a bit of research and found that Suzuki Bandit 600 dog bones are potentially a solution.  The standard Tiger dog bones have 190mm hole centres.  To raise the back end about 40-50mm you'll need a pair with approx 180mm hole centres.  As it happens the Bandit 600 lowering kit has 180mm centres....  To lower the Tigers tail a set of dog bones with approx 200mm hole centres would prob be in order.
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Post by: Earthscape on June 02, 2008, 02:56:52 AM
Hi all,
I am the prototype guy that Sasquatch built the shorter links for.  I have them installed and have gone on several rides, both solo and 2-up.  I wanted about an additional inch in ride height so that I could return the spring preload back to somewhere around stock while not loosing any ride height.  The new links have completely accomplished that mission.  Where before on the center stand the rear wheel was 3/4" to 1" off the ground, now the rear tire just about touches the ground.  

There are before and after pics below.  Those of you very detail-oriented will notice that I switched from the Triumph to the SWMotech center stand.  That makes the measurement of the tire on the ground a bit subjective, but the difference in the distance between the tire and the exhaust is obvious in the pics.

At the same time as the new links, I had Sasquatch rebuild my shock.  Wow, night and day difference.  The rear suspension now soaks up small and large bumps much better, and is also very well controlled (no pogo-stick).  It has really transformed my Tiger.  Previously I would have to "brace" myself over large bumps, now the bike just soaks them up, the way a bike with almost 8" of rear travel should.
It's great that Sasquatch is willing to do all this work for Steamer owners.  

Having someone out there that can help you get your suspension set up the way you want on a 10+ year old bike is fantastic.
I'm one very satisified customer, and would highly recommend his services to anyone who wants to change the ride height or improve the suspension on their Tiger.

Justin

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Post by: Mudhen on June 02, 2008, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: "Earthscape"Hi all,
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Justin

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Welcome aboard newbie.  You just get that bike? :lol:

(http://mudhen.smugmug.com/photos/51018961_RyC5F-M.jpg)

Good to have another long-time Steamer owner sign up here!  (and believe me, I'm not including myself in that group)

Mudhen (Pat - Eliot, ME)
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Post by: Earthscape on June 09, 2008, 05:20:27 AM
Hey Pat,
Yeah, been loving my "new" Tiger just over 10 years now.  Finally got it all straightened out, and it's better than ever.  I especially love the 49.9 MPG now!  When I wear out my old Dunlops I've got a set of Karoo Travellers in the garage waiting to try.

How do you like the Scrambler?  I keep thinking I'd like to have one of those too...
Title: Re: Tail riser / jack-up kit????
Post by: nightrunner on June 10, 2008, 06:38:54 PM
Quote from: "deiferdog"Does anyone know if you can get shorter dog-bones to raise the tail of a tiger ?

Perhaps no one has said yet because its obvious, but you do have your eccentric adjuster set for the higher ride height already, right?

On that same note, has anyone gone up a link or two on the chain to allow the eccentrics to rise higher?  Just a thought.
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Post by: JetdocX on June 10, 2008, 06:51:20 PM
Ride height is adjustable using the rear shock.  Even the stocker I took off had that adjustment.

Just sayin, I'd try that first because it's quick and easy to do.
Title: Lowering the Steamer
Post by: intotheabis on April 07, 2012, 12:45:49 AM
I want to lower my Steamer by 2'', I have raised the forks by about 1'' in he triples but I need the rear much lower. On my KLR I used lowering links, are any made for the tiger or if I fabricated longer shock links would it drop the bike?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by: rf9rider on April 07, 2012, 01:51:58 AM
Easy way to lower the rear by about an inch is to rotate the eccentric adjusters 180 degrees, so the rear wheel axle sits lower, you`ll also have to raise the chainguard at the rear so the chain clears the guard.
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Post by: intotheabis on April 07, 2012, 02:09:46 AM
Quote from: rf9riderEasy way to lower the rear by about an inch is to rotate the eccentric adjusters 180 degrees, so the rear wheel axle sits lower, you`ll also have to raise the chainguard at the rear so the chain clears the guard.[/quote

I have heard that but how do you adjust the chain if you try to rotate them?
I saw were someone, flipped them around but not clear how that would accomplish anything either.
Does anyone have any photos of this mod?
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Post by: intotheabis on April 07, 2012, 02:12:37 AM
I have heard of that but not sure how to accomplish that and still have proper chain adjustment.
I have also heard of flipping the chain adjusters but how does that work?
Anyone have any photos of this being done?
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Post by: JetdocX on April 07, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
The axle bolt is in an eccentric hole to the swingarm chain tensioner in which it rides.  It doesn't matter whether the axle is in the top half or bottom half of the chain tensioner bore.  I've not done it, but there are photos here if you are diligent in your search.
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Post by: rf9rider on April 08, 2012, 01:14:12 AM
Rotating the adjusters doesn`t make any difference to adjusting the chain, just do it like normal.
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