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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 03:30:09 AM

Title: Engine Management Light
Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 03:30:09 AM
While riding home today the Engine Management Malfunction light came on.  According to the manual my bike would have switched to "Limp Home Mode".  I stopped the bike and checked it out and found nothing wrong.  It ran fine as usual.  The only thing that I could trace it back to was that I'd filled up the tank a few miles previously.  

Any suggestions anyone?  It seems to run fine.....
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Post by: CvPiper on April 16, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Is the battery low at all?
The ECU will only go to Limp Home if the fault is severe enough to justify it.
They will come on if the bike is started with a weak battery, and will go out once charged and started 5-10 times.
This is the most common reason for the ECU Light to be on.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 01:29:16 PM
No, the battery is fine.  I keep it on a Smart Charger every day.  The light came on while at a stop light.  The RPMs dropped, the light came on and I pulled off the road and checked everything.  I can't find anything wrong and the bike has been running fine but I'm hesitant to ride it until I find the problem or fault.
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Post by: CvPiper on April 16, 2008, 01:52:17 PM
It'll be worth 2 mins to pop it into a dealer, they can then plug ti up and tell you what sensor/fault is bringing it up.

Mac Tools also do a OBD diagnostic tool, which can bring the fault code up, and can then be cross referenced with the manual to show what that code relates to. They only cost about £40 GBP.
This tool fits Triumph M/Cycles, and most cars.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 03:37:07 PM
Unfortunately it's a lot more than two minutes for me and time is tight but perhaps that is what I need to do. I was going to call the dealer today to see if I can get any info.  
I've been planning on buying some diagnostic tools for this bike and I'd like to MAP it myself as well but I do not have these yet.  Do you have a link to the Mac Tool you are referring to?
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Post by: Bruincounselor on April 16, 2008, 04:45:20 PM
After three heat cycles the light resets, unless the fault is still happening. I'd ride it a few times to see if it goes away first.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 04:50:51 PM
Excellent.  That's good info.  What is considered to be a "Heat cycle"?
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Post by: iansoady on April 16, 2008, 05:01:34 PM
A heat cycle is to let it warm up till the fan comes on, then completely cool down. In theory, it doesn't need to get quite that warm, but that's the easiest way.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 05:11:28 PM
I've only been able to get the fan to kick in once on this bike.  She runs cooool!  But I'm a determined man, I'll heat her up. :twisted:
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Post by: blacktiger on April 16, 2008, 08:33:21 PM
You don't need to get it up to "fan" temperature. Just normal riding temp will do. Also, it doesn't seem to need to cool right down either. My lamp went off after just one ride where I stopped for 20 minutes a couple of times.
What puzzles me is that it came on without you doing anything except filling up. The only times I've had it come on is when I've disconnected the battery.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 08:44:50 PM
I tried re-starting it three times yesterday giving it a chance to cool down and once again this morning before I left for work and it was still on so I too my DR into work instead.  I'm still hoping to call the dealer some time today to see if I can get an answer other than you better bring it in.
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Post by: blacktiger on April 16, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
Quote from: "HappyMan"I tried re-starting it three times yesterday giving it a chance to cool down and once again this morning before I left for work and it was still on so I too my DR into work instead.  I'm still hoping to call the dealer some time today to see if I can get an answer other than you better bring it in.

Well if something has gone wrong, that's the only solution.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 16, 2008, 09:28:08 PM
I've been clicking the heels of my ruby slippers and throwing salt over my shoulder but nothing yet.....

I agree that it's most likely the only solution but it seems to be running fine....finding time to get it to the dealer is a bit of a problem at the moment so I'm just making sure there aren't any other potential solutions before hand.  There has been good advice in this thread.  Thanks everyone.
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Post by: John Stenhouse on April 16, 2008, 09:30:33 PM
On some cars you can re set the ECU by disconnecting the battery, leaving it a minute or so and then re connecting it. Does this work on Tigers?
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Post by: Bruincounselor on April 17, 2008, 02:46:37 AM
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"On some cars you can re set the ECU by disconnecting the battery, leaving it a minute or so and then re connecting it. Does this work on Tigers?

Nope.
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Post by: ThreePutt on April 17, 2008, 03:11:36 PM
Quote from: "HappyMan"I tried re-starting it three times yesterday giving it a chance to cool down and once again this morning before I left for work and it was still on so I too my DR into work instead.  I'm still hoping to call the dealer some time today to see if I can get an answer other than you better bring it in.

I've found that starting it up and letting run isn't enough.  I've had to ride it five miles or so.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 17, 2008, 03:44:18 PM
I rode it home after it came on and there wasn't a change.  I started it up this morning and she's running rough.  I still have a hunch it was bad gas since this happened following a complete fill up.
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Post by: HappyMan on April 19, 2008, 06:51:05 AM
The dealer couldn't look at my bike until next Tuesday.....of course this weekend is finally warm enough for the other bikers I know to finally go for a ride with me and I'll have to be on my DR650. :evil:

I'll update when I find out what the fault ends up being.  I asked the dealer to take care of the off road MAP as long as it was in there and they weren't sure what I was talking about.  I don't have much confidence in dealers and that didn't help. :shock: It also took three phone calls to get through to the service department.  The first two calls I was forwarded to service, it rang and rang and then was forwarded back to the operator and it rang and rang and then finally went dead.....did I mention I have little faith in dealers? :roll:
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Post by: HappyMan on April 23, 2008, 04:52:47 AM
Update.

My warranty ended yesterday.....they covered it anyway or supposedly will be covering it.  They said Triumph was one of the best Mfg.s when it came to customer support.

Problem found; TPS.  That explains why it seemed just fine at times but running rough at other times since it was intermittent.  They will replace it and I should have El Tigre back on Thursday.  CAN'T WAIT!!
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