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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: Bixxer Bob on August 14, 2008, 10:49:02 PM

Title: Fork Clatter
Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 14, 2008, 10:49:02 PM
I know they all do it, but can someone remind me why?  It gets to be REALLLLLLY  annoying and I'd like to find a way to stop it. . . . .
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Post by: The Kurgan on August 14, 2008, 11:56:49 PM
Call me insane... but I think its actually coming from the radiator fan. The fan has some play on its shaft. Test it, you might see that it makes the same clunking noise.
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Post by: tcbezza on August 15, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
I have the same noise and I think I agree with The Kurgan in that is does sound like it comes from the radiator fans. If I grab a hold of one fan and move it back and forth I get exactly the same noise.

Have you tried temporarily padding the fans (when it is cold) to stop them moving and see if it still does it ???
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Post by: Silverstripes on August 16, 2008, 11:29:39 AM
15 w oil in the forks worked for me. It still does the clatter once in a blue moon.

The handling is much improved as well. I stayed with standard springs just replaced 10 w with 15 w oil.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 16, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
Thnaks fror the tips guys.  It's due a change of fork oil so I'll try going up to 15W
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Post by: outrunner on August 16, 2008, 11:27:15 PM
Mine is due a 24k sevice soon so I think I will also go with the 15 w oil, does anyone know the exact amount of oil in each leg?

Andy.
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Post by: Silverstripes on August 17, 2008, 12:30:01 PM
Outrunner

The fork oil is done more by measurment than volume. With the spring removed and the fork empty follow this process

Operate the fork several times to expel any air.

Fully compress the fork.

Top up with fresh oil to a level as follows:

Up to Vin 198874 = 107mm
From Vin 198874 = 146 mm

I did mine by setting a depth gauge on my vernier. You then measure from the fork tube top to the oil level and set as below. When you get close its only best to add small amounts, or else you will be looking to remove oil.

I found it easy to do.

Then decompress the fork, replace the spring and the top cap tighten to 30 nm.

Replace the forks on the yoke and tighten the clamps to 20 nm

To complete the job I purchased two bottles of fork oil as each leg will take around 720 cc of oil.

All make sense ???
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Post by: Stretch on August 17, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Quote from: "Silverstripes"15 w oil in the forks worked for me. It still does the clatter once in a blue moon.

The handling is much improved as well. I stayed with standard springs just replaced 10 w with 15 w oil.

Cool.  How much do you weigh?
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Post by: Silverstripes on August 17, 2008, 06:58:25 PM
Stretch

96 kg and 6Ft 1in height

Not a Fat Ba---rd but heavy enough.
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Post by: Stretch on August 17, 2008, 08:48:30 PM
That's about what I weigh... 211 pounds.

Thanks.
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Post by: iansoady on August 18, 2008, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: "Silverstripes"Outrunner

Up to Vin 198874 = 107mm
From Vin 198874 = 146 mm


And on mine, which happens to be VIN 198874?

Actually I do know the answer. :wink:
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Post by: Silverstripes on August 18, 2008, 08:17:13 PM
Ian

Direct lift from the manual with the Vin listing.

You have the elusive Vin are there any other instances where this Vin threshold is an issue. :?:
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Post by: NortonCharlie on August 19, 2008, 03:47:43 AM
If you have the cast wheel model the later spoked wheels the earlier
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Post by: blacktiger on August 25, 2008, 04:29:19 PM
The answer to why is there a knock from the forks is........from 2005 model they fitted new forks which has an internal valve which is supposed to reduce the dive when on the brakes. It's that valve that clonks.....apparently.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 25, 2008, 09:08:41 PM
In that case I'll be looking at how I can stop it when I change the fork oil.  If something's loose enough to clonk,  it should be possible to bush or shim it out somehow without affecting the action.  I'll have to tidy up the garage so that I can get to my lathe..... :roll:
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Post by: NortonCharlie on August 25, 2008, 11:19:44 PM
I have also heard that the springs clatter internally on the fork tubes when they compress.  My RS does a little of that.
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Post by: blacktiger on August 27, 2008, 09:32:13 PM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"In that case I'll be looking at how I can stop it when I change the fork oil.  If something's loose enough to clonk,  it should be possible to bush or shim it out somehow without affecting the action.  I'll have to tidy up the garage so that I can get to my lathe..... :roll:

That'll be a bit like stopping your heart from beating. It's the valve closing that makes the clonk.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 27, 2008, 10:35:16 PM
In that case what I'm hearing sounds more like the springs than a valve closing.  We'll see when I get them apart.
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Post by: blacktiger on August 30, 2008, 12:45:44 PM
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