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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: Stretch on October 13, 2008, 01:54:02 AM

Title: How To Change An Air Filter
Post by: Stretch on October 13, 2008, 01:54:02 AM
The air filter ought to be cleaned / changed every 12,000 miles.

Remove the fuel tank, described in detail here:  http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,5142 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,5142)

Remove the four T-30 bolts (a 5mm hex will do when T-30 bolts aren't too tight).  Until this day, I didn't know the previous owner had had a K&N installed.  I'll be changing it out for a new Triumph paper filter.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP1829.jpg)

Withdraw the filter housing like a dresser drawer...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP1830.jpg)

Remove the filter from the the bottom of the filter housing...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/IMGP1831.jpg)
Bleh!

Reassembly is simply the reverse order.  Ensure that the filter installs into the housing from the bottom, with the filter's smaller flange facing up, as shown.
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Post by: fano on October 13, 2008, 02:19:10 AM
Nice work Stretch!   :thumbsup
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Post by: Stretch on October 13, 2008, 02:22:26 AM
Thanks, Bro.  I have a few more tidbits (from my 24k service) to post as I get the time.
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Post by: EvilBetty on December 24, 2008, 09:49:52 AM
How much does a new filter run on average?

I found one for $30 here, but shipping may kill any discount.
http://www.bmw-ducati.com/eshopprod_cat ... Filter.htm (http://www.bmw-ducati.com/eshopprod_cat_2323-19059-19071_product_237321.Air_Filter.htm)
Title: Re: How To Change An Air Filter
Post by: Guest on December 29, 2008, 03:34:27 AM
Quote from: "Stretch"The air filter ought to be cleaned / changed every 12,000 miles.

  I'll be changing it out for a new Triumph paper filter.

Stretch, I thought the K&N provided better airflow and was planing to switch to a K&N. Is the K&N any better ?
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Post by: Stretch on December 29, 2008, 04:31:47 AM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"How much does a new filter run on average?

I found one for $30 here, but shipping may kill any discount.
http://www.bmw-ducati.com/eshopprod_cat ... Filter.htm (http://www.bmw-ducati.com/eshopprod_cat_2323-19059-19071_product_237321.Air_Filter.htm)

$30 is good.  I paid 42 for mine, plus shipping.

Quote from: "Fishbone"Stretch, I thought the K&N provided better airflow and was planing to switch to a K&N. Is the K&N any better ?

You're right, the K&N does provide better airflow.  However, it does not filter out the tiniest of particles very well.  Hold a K&N (or similar oiled gauze filter) up to the sun, and you will see scores of pinholes along the tops and bottoms of the pleats.  I used to have K&N's in every vehicle I owned, until I held one of the pinholes up to my eye, and I could read my license plate through the filter.

I ride lots of dusty unpaved roads and want my engine to live way past 100,000 miles, so I swapped the K&N for a Triumph paper filter.  Look at the film of powdery dust covering my airbox in the above photo.  The inside looked even worse, and those nearly-microscopically small grains of silica can easily pass through the comparatively large pinholes in the K&N filter.  Quality paper filters are more restrictive, but they're capable of trapping the tinier bits of dirt and sand that oiled gauze filters simply can't stop.

While the bike was still in pieces, I removed the airbox completely, and washed it inside and out with soap and hot water, to remove the dirt that was lurking inside.  I didn't want some chunk of goo coming loose in there and working its way into the intakes.
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Post by: 2004Tiger on December 29, 2008, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: "Stretch"You're right, the K&N does provide better airflow.  However, it does not filter out the tiniest of particles very well. ...
I agree with you, and so do ALL of the independent comparative tests performed on air filters. K&N survives on advertising, not on filtration performance. The little bit of extra air the K&N provides is useful only at high RPM and full throttle, how often do you need it? The dirt it passes is full time.
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Post by: zombie on December 30, 2008, 01:12:21 AM
nice job and I use the triumph stock filter as it has worked very nicely indeed
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Post by: Advwannabe on December 30, 2008, 01:26:48 AM
I nearly always go stock on airfilters. I bought a Katana with pod filters and the stock airbox removed. The only way I found to restore the stock torque and low down performance was, you guessed it, to replace the stock airbox.

If you can find mods to the intake that are endorsed by creditable people by all means give 'em a try.

By the way Stretch, I took a replacement filter with me on my round Australia ride which included a couple of thousand kilometers off bitumen. The filter didn't need replacement until the service after I got home, so its placement is pretty good.

Thanks for the write up!
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Post by: Stretch on December 30, 2008, 02:48:30 AM
Quote from: "Advwannabe"my round Australia ride which included a couple of thousand kilometers off bitumen.

Is this the ride, Thunderbolt's Way?  http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4196 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4196)

Awesome pics.  Post some more there if you have them.
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Post by: Cleaverid on December 30, 2008, 05:17:43 AM
I use an Air raid filter on my Dodge Cummins diesel.  Company was formed by EX K and N employess that didn't like how their product worked or filtered.  Nothing has ever gotten through my filter driving thousands of miles down dirt roads with loads of fine silt and sand on them.  The inside of my airbox looks like new. You can't see through the filter like you can a K and N.  (I tried ) Nice stuff, too bad they don't make one for our bike.
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Post by: Advwannabe on December 30, 2008, 06:27:25 AM
Quote from: "Stretch"Is this the ride, Thunderbolt's Way?  http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4196 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4196)

Awesome pics.  Post some more there if you have them.

Thanks for the kind words Stretch. The Thunderbolts pic were from earlier this year. I wasn't into digital photos during the round Oz trip in '06 but I did take a few. Will see what I can dig up

Cheers, Russell
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Post by: EvilBetty on January 04, 2009, 09:06:42 PM
I'm trying to get the new filter installed, but I can't get the filter to slide all the way into the housing.

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/Jaredcm1/Tiger/DSCN0714.jpg)

I can put the old filter back in fine, but the new one resists and makes a squeaking noise (from the foam bezel of the filter I assume) as I try to force it in.

Anyone run into this before?

The filters are almost identical, but maybe the orange part is a bit more swollen than the older one...

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/Jaredcm1/Tiger/DSCN0715.jpg)
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Post by: Stretch on January 04, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
Mine was a bit stiff to reinsert also.  Maybe a bit of grease or vaseline on the gasket to lube it up?  That will help it seal better also.
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Post by: EvilBetty on February 18, 2009, 02:59:06 AM
That did it!  A little WD-40 swabbed on with a finger and it slid right in!
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Post by: REGULATOR on February 18, 2009, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"That did it!  A little WD-40 swabbed on with a finger and it slid right in!


  well I'm glad that worked out!
Title: UNI Filter
Post by: DKWrider on June 23, 2010, 12:09:29 AM
Besides OEM Triumph and K&N, has anyone used a UNI foam filter on their Tiger?  I see they make one for it.  I run them on my dirt bikes.
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Post by: aesdj on June 24, 2010, 11:26:32 PM
A couple of questions. First, I'm sure mine came out with the steel mesh part facing towards the front or up. Now to me this was right for two reason. One the filter carn't drop out if its a bit of a loose fit because you've pushed it in from the top so it's not able to come out unless it moves upward and gravity and friction will stop that from happening and second, the steel will catch the big bits like leaves etc first and then the paper will catch the smaller stuff. I carn't see it mattering which way round it goes any way because it will still filter exactly the same both ways, won't it?
Title: Re: UNI Filter
Post by: WVdyhrd on May 21, 2011, 02:09:51 AM
Quote from: "DKWrider"Besides OEM Triumph and K&N, has anyone used a UNI foam filter on their Tiger?  I see they make one for it.  I run them on my dirt bikes.

I'm putting one in today!! It really was a fiscal decision. I'll keep u updated
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Post by: iansoady on May 21, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: "aesdj"A couple of questions. First, I'm sure mine came out with the steel mesh part facing towards the front or up. Now to me this was right for two reason. One the filter carn't drop out if its a bit of a loose fit because you've pushed it in from the top so it's not able to come out unless it moves upward and gravity and friction will stop that from happening and second, the steel will catch the big bits like leaves etc first and then the paper will catch the smaller stuff. I carn't see it mattering which way round it goes any way because it will still filter exactly the same both ways, won't it?

I can't remember. However, I'd probably fit it with the mesh towards the throttle bodies as it would stop any tendency for the paper to get sucked in.
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Post by: cosmo on September 05, 2011, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: "iansoady"I can't remember. However, I'd probably fit it with the mesh towards the throttle bodies as it would stop any tendency for the paper to get sucked in.

THIS, is correct. However, I, too, just noted that the factory filter (bought my bike absolutely new, 1 mile registered) was in place backward.
Don't know why, lazy Tony on the line, as it IS easier to fit wrong way 'round.

The reason to fit the seal portion towards the TB is that the airbox has it's mating surface there, and when you tighten the whole, it forces the filter to seal on that surface. Plus there is the additional seal of having the recess for the seal on its sides. Yes, it is harder to fit, because the seals are now working.

Cosmo
Title: Replacing Air Filter in the Correct Direction
Post by: DeanRider on September 25, 2011, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: "aesdj"A couple of questions. First, I'm sure mine came out with the steel mesh part facing towards the front or up. ... I can't see it mattering which way round it goes any way because it will still filter exactly the same both ways, won't it?

To ensure that the air filter is replaced in the correct direction, the following schematic for the Tiger 955i VIN 198875> should help:

(http://www.triumphtorque.com/media/file/87218.jpg)

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Title: Re: How To Change An Air Filter
Post by: Hatleyrocket on February 04, 2013, 12:02:41 AM
Is there any cross reference to a generic paper element air filter that would be available at a local auto parts store?  Like an advanced auto, NAPA, O'Reiliy's, etc?  It seems like with oil filters, fuel filters, radiator caps and things all have a cross part, I can't see why the air filter wouldn't.  Local auto parts stores seem to have an infinite amount of different sized filters.  Anyone search this out ever?

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Title: Re: How To Change An Air Filter
Post by: blacktiger on February 04, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
Just buy the K&N and have done with it. The microscopic particles that the K&N misses, that so worry the previous posters, ain't going to harm anything. I've run mine with a K&N for 40000 miles so far without problems.
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