Hey everyone. Wondering if anybody has installed a switch to turn off the headlights when they're not needed (ex: single track or logging roads) in order to save juice. On which wire(s) did you install the on/ off switch ?
I've searched, but have not come up with anything. Thanks very much!
I've been pondering that myself. I don't really want to just add a switch, though.
Some nations don't require motorcycles to always run with the lights on, so ideally I'd like to get that nation's 'on / off - high / low' switchgear from a Tiger.
They are switched in the UK, I'll try and remember to ring the dealer and find out how much. Feel free to pester me if I forget.
bike bandit lists both styles for the steamer
the US version with NO headlight switch $125
and the other version (which is most of the rest of the world ) whitch has the headlight switch for $111
Oddly enuff though for the girlies there is no listing for anything other than the US version of the right hand switchgear .
But like John says the UK version has the headlight switch .
Quote from: "Mustang"Oddly enuff though for the girlies there is no listing for anything other than the US version of the right hand switchgear .
But like John says the UK version has the headlight switch .
I have a 2006 UK model and there is no headlight switch, the lights being on all the time.
Andy.
Quote from: "outrunner"I have a 2006 UK model and there is no headlight switch, the lights being on all the time.
Andy.
Same for my 05
Looks like 2003 was the last model year to have a headlight switch in the UK
2004 to 2006 models do not list a switch other than "LIGHTSON"
I am a firm advocate for lights on riding. I was thinking of fitting a switch for start up.
Is the Steamer switch cluster the same as the one on the 06? I was thinking of ordering the Steamer headlight switch and fitting it to the blanked out bit.
I don't always ride (off-road) where I have permission, so's a 'lights-out' option would be nice.
Quote from: "Stretch"I don't always ride (off-road) where I have permission, so's a 'lights-out' option would be nice.
Would it not be just as easy to lift the seat and pull the headlamp fuses when sneaking about off road? :wink:
Andy.
Kill the engine to remove the ignition key, remove both seats, and pull (or replace) a fuse.
Or...
Flick a switch.
Um... no.
Quote from: "Stretch"I don't always ride (off-road) where I have permission, so's a 'lights-out' option would be nice.
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I got the thing high-centered on a large fallen tree one time (on somebody else's private property). I was able to wheelie the front wheel over it, but didn't have the momentum to ride the rear over it. So there it sat on the skidplate, with the rear tire three inches off the ground.
If anyone was curious if you can pick up the back end of a Girly by lifting it by the luggage rack (before the property owners came to investigate the sound of a 955i and off-road pipe), you can.
The switch comes with the housing and is £72.63 plus VAT at 15%. Local dealer hasn't got one but its next day delivery from the factory.
That's about 122 dollars (as of today). Not too bad.
Quote from: "Mustang"Looks like 2003 was the last model year to have a headlight switch in the UK
2004 to 2006 models do not list a switch other than "LIGHTSON"
Concur. I found the left switchgear from a 2004 on eBay UK, and it is 'Hi-Lo' only.
Quote from: "Stretch"If anyone was curious if you can pick up the back end of a Girly by lifting it by the luggage rack (before the property owners came to investigate the sound of a 955i and off-road pipe), you can.
......not by this short/fat German stock fella. Three inches off the ground would put that above my head I think... :shock:
Quote from: "Stretch"I got the thing high-centered on a large fallen tree one time (on somebody else's private property). I was able to wheelie the front wheel over it, but didn't have the momentum to ride the rear over it. So there it sat on the skidplate, with the rear tire three inches off the ground.
If anyone was curious if you can pick up the back end of a Girly by lifting it by the luggage rack (before the property owners came to investigate the sound of a 955i and off-road pipe), you can.
Ha ha, it happened to me once too. I don't remember how I ended up on that rock.
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"I don't remember how I ended up on that rock"
1)It hapens to me all the time
2)Looking at the photo you shouda hung a bit of a righty mate.
BTW good photo, where did you end up?
What about just wiring in a weather proof switch into the positive of the headlight wire? I've done this on my DRZ and haven't had a problem. I'm actually thinking about doing it on my Tiger too as having 110w from the low lights alone is a bit much if I want to run driving lamps, grips, jacket and GPS.
Would there be any issues here with splicing in a switch to the positive of the headlights? Use something like this mounted on the plastic trim panel - http://www.trailtech.net/040-LS-B.html (http://www.trailtech.net/040-LS-B.html) Would this 10 amp switch be up to it?
wire the switch to the relays that control the headlights and any freaking switch will work .
Tigers have relays to the headlights so there is no high amp draw thru the switches .
Quote from: "Mustang"wire the switch to the relays that control the headlights and any freaking switch will work .
Tigers have relays to the headlights so there is no high amp draw thru the switches .
OK, so maybe the lead coming off the hand grip is the perfect wire? That way I will only have to put in one switch?
Mustang - Also ordered a valve tool last night . . . it looks snazzy and I'm interested to see it work in person.
Yup. Im with you Mustang. I will fit a switch for maybee $5Nz than $100 and something U.S.
Quote from: "Mustang"wire the switch to the relays that control the headlights and any freaking switch will work .
Tigers have relays to the headlights so there is no high amp draw thru the switches .
the light switch on the girly is on the RHS. it originaly was used on the Thunderbird/Legend/Adveture series and then adopted for the early 9551 sprint and tiger. so any of these could supply the switch cluster
I have a spare USA switch from a bike that was reimported. the connector block is the same as that used with the switch and it has a loop of wire linking the terminals in the connector. cutting this loop and extending the wires to a switch would be a simple job.
the current for one headlight and the coil of the relay pass through this switch so it will need to be rated for that.
all the above is true up to the 03 bike that I have, Triumph may have changed the connector block and wiring harness on later bikes but as all the girlies can have both lights working with the addition of relays i think there is a good chance that all of them are the same
Quote from: "Robbie"I have a spare USA switch from a bike that was reimported. the connector block is the same as that used with the switch and it has a loop of wire linking the terminals in the connector. cutting this loop and extending the wires to a switch would be a simple job.
Sounds good to me. Does anyone have any pictures of this or is it fairly simple to find by tracing the wires from the hand controls? Does this cut out both lights or just one?
I got a second hand Right hand ( i know what i mean!!) switchgear from ebay for about £20 just after getting my 05 Girley with the light on/ off function blanked, i think it was off an 02 model and it was a straight plug and play, its rare i ride with lights off but i'm old school and being able to turn things on or off should not have to be under the control of the nanny state ( sorry i mean the UK government :D )....... Rebellious Huh
Quote from: "violin"I got a second hand Right hand ( i know what i mean!!) switchgear from ebay for about £20 just after getting my 05 Girley with the light on/ off function blanked, i think it was off an 02 model and it was a straight plug and play, its rare i ride with lights off but i'm old school and being able to turn things on or off should not have to be under the control of the nanny state ( sorry i mean the UK government :D )....... Rebellious Huh
So it is my understanding that all the US units do not have the cut off switch, but many of the European models have the built in switch? I don't mind doing the work and wiring in a switch, but if I can buy used switch gear for a decent price I'd rather do that. Should I be looking on UK ebay and not USA? The cutout switch is on the right hand switchgear? Kind of like this one . . . http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-955-i-TIG ... 240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-955-i-TIGER-R-H-SWITCH-GEAR-THROTTLE-SIDE_W0QQitemZ220310556669QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item220310556669&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
Mine is an 06, Euro spec. The switch has a cover over it.
Matty that one you listed from E bay has the cover over it, so no switch there either
No Matttys the link you give is what i had fitted as standard, the one i purchased on ebay has three positions ... off, sidelights and headlights, i think a look around either scrap yards or again ebay will get you the right one and as i say it is sooooo easy to change it really is plug and play!
Slightly OT clarification, Non-US control pods for the right hand (throttle hand) includes an on/off switch for the headlight?
(I ask because my starter button is dying on my steamer, and I was going to replace the pod. Looking on bikebandit.com, the US version of the switches are fifteen dollars more than the UK version. If the only difference is the UK version has a light switch, I'm happy to pay less for more functionality.)
Geof
Quote from: "abruzzi"Slightly OT clarification, Non-US control pods for the right hand (throttle hand) includes an on/off switch for the headlight?
(I ask because my starter button is dying on my steamer, and I was going to replace the pod. Looking on bikebandit.com, the US version of the switches are fifteen dollars more than the UK version. If the only difference is the UK version has a light switch, I'm happy to pay less for more functionality.)
Geof
you are correct , the
UK version for
steamers HAS a on/off switch for the headlight .
cool. I guess it costs extra to disable the the switch...
So I think I've found the looped wires for the cutout switch on my 02 Tiger. They are above the right head lamp, one is red with a white tracer and the other is a blue wire. If I attach the switch to the red wire I should be OK, right?
Quote from: "matttys"So I think I've found the looped wires for the cutout switch on my 02 Tiger. They are above the right head lamp, one is red with a white tracer and the other is a blue wire. If I attach the switch to the red wire I should be OK, right?
Red and white is the side lights and blue the headlights.
that is I think so as far as the wiring diagram I have for the switched type
My '99 has a toggle switch that the PO rigged up to switch off the lights. I use it all the time, it leaves the running lights on so you still have some glow up there in case you cruise by a LEO.
Quote from: "jackanory"My '99 has a toggle switch that the PO rigged up to switch off the lights. I use it all the time, it leaves the running lights on so you still have some glow up there in case you cruise by a LEO.
I looked at the diagram too and am not 100% sure myself. Jack - have you pulled off the cowling to see where the switch connects in? If you haven't would you be able to check that out for us :wink:
A pal in the Motherland took pity on a poor Yank...
Switch, Handlebar, RH... Triumph Part Number: T2040128
"Plug 'n play"
Made in Japan :mrgreen: (no joke)
Quote from: "Stretch"A pal in the Motherland took pity on a poor Yank...
Switch, Handlebar, RH... Triumph Part Number: T2040128
"Plug 'n play"
Made in Japan :mrgreen: (no joke)
How much? Group buy anyone???
Quote from: "Bruincounselor"How much?
About $145 USD, shipped from the UK via the Royal Mail. The exchange rate will vary, of course.
Quote from: "Bruincounselor"How much? Group buy anyone???
Me. . .
Quote from: "Stretch"About $145 USD, shipped from the UK via the Royal Mail. The exchange rate will vary, of course.
Ouch, and not much interest in a group buy.
Anyone in Europe know a breaker that will help out a Yankee?
Looking at Bikebandit I see 2 switches listed:
4:
SWITCH, HANDLEBAR, RH, LGHTSON
"RH CA, MY, PT, SE, SG, US - ALL VINS JP, 42767 AND HIGHER; SG, VIN 110499 AND BELOW" 7395250-001
$130.17
4:
SWITCH HANDLEBAR, RH
"RH UK, CH, DE, NL, FR, ES, BR, IT, NZ, CY, ZA, GR, AR, HK, AU - ALL VINS; JP, 42766 AND BELOW; SG, 110500 AND HIGHER" 7395248-001
$135.43
Does Bikebandit list parts they can't get? It looks like there's lots of places that got the non-lighton switch. I'll do some more looking (maybe Ebay or tradeit) before I pull the trigger.
edit - interesting that Japan went away from lightson - I wonder why?
Try this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-TIGER-900 ... 240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-TIGER-900-EARLY-MODEL-RH-SWITCHGEAR_W0QQitemZ190278556644QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item190278556644&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
On a but-it-now local postage is over the top so not much point in me getting it for you. You might be able to cut a better deal if you Email him direct.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-955i-SPRI ... 240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-955i-SPRINT-ST-RS-LEFT-HAND-SWITCH-GEAR_W0QQitemZ200136474588QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item200136474588&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A4%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)
This better and has everything you want but might need a bit of sorting plug-wise. Worth a pop at the price though. If you come back before it finishes I could get it for you although I still think contacting him direct to barter the postage would be cheapest.
I'm having a problem that you guys may be able to advise me on. I bought a R/H switch block for a 885i, complete with a switch for turning the lights on and off. I fitted it to my '06 955i, believing it to be a "plug and play" job and the lights do switch on and off (yippee!) but all the console lights and ignition refuse to work (boooo!).
Anyone out there have any ideas, otherwise its back to bedtime reading of the workshop manual again!
Sounds as if the kill switch is off or shorting, that kills the console lights and ignition.
Looked at the wiring diagrames from both the 885i and 955i and you had indeed guessed correctly. All other curcuits are compatable but the kill switch goes to a different point in the ignition curcuit, which varies slightly between the two models.
I've also looked at the mechanics of the two swtiches and it seems that the light switch internals are however interchangable. The 955i switchblock has a blanking plate over the slot where the on-park-off switch would be.
I have stripped out 885 switch, with it's associated wiring and plan to thread them into the 955's loom and plug them into the appropriate slots in the connector block. Then just remove the blanking plate and fit the switch components into the vacated space in the handlebar switch body.
Theoretically........it should work! :?