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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Cos on March 10, 2009, 07:49:23 PM

Title: K&N Oil Filter and stuff
Post by: Cos on March 10, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
Ok, so after much ado, red tape, and other frustrating shit that went on, my Tiger should be hitting port tomorrow, which means it should be at my place on Friday.  :wav

After i re-assemble her, i gots to do an oil change.
So...K&N filters are readily available here, along with Hiflo filters. The Hiflo is a little cheaper but the K&N has the handy dandy 17 mm nut. Anybody have any experience with the K&N? Does it suck or not?

Oil...no, i'm not going to ask which one. I know better  :lol:

However, a friend will give me a discount on Igol oil, which i've never heard of while i was in the states. Any of the Europeans here ever use it?

Have i mentioned that i'm ecstatic i'm getting my Tiger back?  :eusa_dance  :friday  :hello2  :hello2  :hello2
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Post by: Stretch on March 10, 2009, 07:50:57 PM
Fantastic!  Then you can ride around and get some photos.  Finally.

:mrgreen:
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Post by: Cos on March 10, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: "Stretch"Fantastic!  Then you can ride around and get some photos.  Finally.

:mrgreen:

I can do without the tone there buddy.  :lol:

Anything to opine on my stupid filter query?
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Post by: Mustang on March 10, 2009, 08:17:05 PM
Take a wild guess who make's K&N oil filters ...........................
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If you said Hi Flo give that man a prize , the only difference is the nut welded on the end .

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html
Title: Re: K&N Oil Filter and stuff
Post by: Bruincounselor on March 10, 2009, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: "Cos"the K&N has the handy dandy 17 mm nut.

I find the nut makes removal EASY. I hate wrestling with oil filters, they can be such a mess. Worth the extra buck IMHO.
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Post by: JetdocX on March 10, 2009, 08:39:39 PM
Get the nut.  You need to make it as easy on yourself as possible. :lol:
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Post by: Stretch on March 10, 2009, 09:18:14 PM
Yep.  K&N OIL filters = good.

Their air filters, not so much.  Or at all.  But that's another topic.
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Post by: Cos on March 10, 2009, 11:14:35 PM
Probably K&N it is then.

How the hell do i take off the old one?
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 11, 2009, 12:14:46 AM
Tank off, that reveals the airbox, unscrew the screws on the cover, take old filter out, aim at bin, oil up and put the new one in.

Igol oil should be ok provided it's up to spec. JASO marked? If not then it's car oil, you use it at your own risk.

Friction modifiers aren't recommended with a wet clutch, having said that I use a car oil.
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Post by: abruzzi on March 11, 2009, 12:24:33 AM
I prefer the Purolator Pure one.

Geof
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Post by: Stretch on March 11, 2009, 12:45:47 AM
Quote from: "Cos"How the hell do i take off the old one?

You'll probably have to spring for the tool, or maybe borrow one.

You know, around the corner at Autozone.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: PeteH on March 11, 2009, 01:29:32 AM
Quote from: "Cos"How the hell do i take off the old one?

If its a standard oil filter whack a screwdriver through it, just make sure your drip tray is suitably placed :wink:
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Post by: JetdocX on March 11, 2009, 01:51:27 AM
Quote from: "PeteH"
Quote from: "Cos"How the hell do i take off the old one?

If its a standard oil filter whack a screwdriver through it, just make sure your drip tray is suitably placed :wink:

The thought of Cos holding a screwdriver and a hammer..... :shock:

You really don't want to go there, Cos.
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Post by: Stretch on March 11, 2009, 02:31:28 AM
If you hit it hard enough, you may be able to let the oil out of the case without touching the drain plug.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Stretch67/cheeky-smiley-025.gif)
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Post by: Cos on March 11, 2009, 06:42:10 AM
Quote from: "abruzzi"I prefer the Purolator Pure one.

Geof

I have no clue if those are available in Cyprus.
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Post by: Cos on March 11, 2009, 06:45:50 AM
Quote from: "JetdocX"
Quote from: "PeteH"
Quote from: "Cos"How the hell do i take off the old one?

If its a standard oil filter whack a screwdriver through it, just make sure your drip tray is suitably placed :wink:

The thought of Cos holding a screwdriver and a hammer..... :shock:

You really don't want to go there, Cos.

I was thinking the same thing.  :lol:

Trust me folks, if i take a screwdriver and hammer to my filter, one of two things will happen:
a) I'll poke an eye out

b) I'll put that sucker right through the sump and it'll end up somewhere in the tank.  :lol:

I'm pretty sure i can get my hands on an automotive filter wrench type thing.
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Post by: Cos on March 11, 2009, 06:47:42 AM
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"Tank off, that reveals the airbox, unscrew the screws on the cover, take old filter out, aim at bin, oil up and put the new one in.

Igol oil should be ok provided it's up to spec. JASO marked? If not then it's car oil, you use it at your own risk.

Friction modifiers aren't recommended with a wet clutch, having said that I use a car oil.

These are MC specific. I've been looking around for my trusty Rotella but i haven't found any.
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Post by: abruzzi on March 11, 2009, 07:23:23 AM
Quote from: "Cos"
Quote from: "abruzzi"I prefer the Purolator Pure one.

Geof

I have no clue if those are available in Cyprus.

If you find them they are good.  There was a MC site that cut open a bunch, and found the pure one had the largest filtration surface area.  The KN and a bunch of others were identical internally, i.e. made in the same factory, and brand labels added at the end.

Geof
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Post by: abruzzi on March 11, 2009, 07:41:05 AM
I think this was the site:

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html)
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Post by: cbxtc6 on March 11, 2009, 01:59:47 PM
I use a large channel-lock pliers to remove the old oil filter - works fine.
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 11, 2009, 03:14:27 PM
Quote from: "Cos"These are MC specific. I've been looking around for my trusty Rotella but i haven't found any.

Rotella seems to be a US only designation, here in the UK they call it Helix. No help I'm afraid.
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Post by: Cos on March 11, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"
Quote from: "Cos"These are MC specific. I've been looking around for my trusty Rotella but i haven't found any.

Rotella seems to be a US only designation, here in the UK they call it Helix. No help I'm afraid.

Hmmmm...i wonder if the Diesel Helix Ultra is the same as the Rotella T.

Iiiiiiiinteresting.
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Post by: iansoady on March 12, 2009, 11:54:26 AM
I believe Rotella was recommended for Wankel engines eg NSU and Norton - it is apparently available in the UK so would expect in Greece as well.  http://www.lister.co.uk/lubricants/autotrans.pdf
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Post by: Cos on March 16, 2009, 10:47:28 PM
Here's another question.

I think i saw somewhere that Triumph does not recommend putting anything like a 50 oil in the Tiger. However, i remember distinctly that the Triumph badged Mobil-1 was 15w-50. What is up with that yo?

Oh, and another...what's the difference between ester-synthetic and synthetic?
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Post by: JetdocX on March 16, 2009, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: "Cos"Here's another question.

I think i saw somewhere that Triumph does not recommend putting anything like a 50 oil in the Tiger. However, i remember distinctly that the Triumph badged Mobil-1 was 15w-50. What is up with that yo?

Oh, and another...what's the difference between ester-synthetic and synthetic?

Almost any multi-grade MC oil you choose will be OK.  Don't worry about it.
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Post by: Cos on March 16, 2009, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: "JetdocX"
Quote from: "Cos"Here's another question.

I think i saw somewhere that Triumph does not recommend putting anything like a 50 oil in the Tiger. However, i remember distinctly that the Triumph badged Mobil-1 was 15w-50. What is up with that yo?

Oh, and another...what's the difference between ester-synthetic and synthetic?

Almost any multi-grade MC oil you choose will be OK.  Don't worry about it.

You should know by now that given my propensity for destroying shit, i'm worried about everything.  :lol:

I just wish they'd get that freakin container opened. So close, yet so far away  :BangHead
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Post by: JetdocX on March 17, 2009, 12:15:08 AM
Oil ain't all that hard.  Twist cap off, open oil filler on bike, pour oil in, smile!

Just keep it out of the radiator and the tires and everything is chilly!
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Post by: Cos on March 17, 2009, 12:29:34 AM
I know man.

I'm just trying to stop myself from driving down to the port and busting my Tiger out by asking stupid questions.  :lol:
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