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Title: 05 Tiger I'm looking at
Post by: framebinder on April 12, 2009, 02:43:10 AM
There is a 05 Tiger 955 with 4000 on the clock and they are asking 7200 for it.
Veeeery tempting! Any thoughts on what to watch out for or to consider?
Thanks in advance.
Framebinder
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Post by: John Stenhouse on April 12, 2009, 02:50:56 PM
Check it's the colour you like, get on it and ride!
Seriously that's no mileage, so should be fine. Any history? What has been replaced?
An 05 with very little miles probably has a new battery, chain and sprockets should be fine, as would the brakes. Can't think of anything that would be worn at that mileage. Rear Tyre maybe?

Ride it, you'll like it, buy it, end of.
Title: Re: 05 Tiger I'm looking at
Post by: MikeBenzon on April 12, 2009, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: "framebinder"There is a 05 Tiger 955 with 4000 on the clock and they are asking 7200 for it.
Veeeery tempting! Any thoughts on what to watch out for or to consider?
Thanks in advance.
Framebinder

I think the 05 or 06 models are the best models. In 05 Triumph dod a few modifications that I liked, such as different fork springs and valving and a new swing arm and the cast alloy wheels so that you can run tubeless tires. There are probably those who might think those changes were a step backwards for a dirt oriented street bike, but either way it is still one of the best all around bikes ever made.
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Post by: Cos on April 12, 2009, 07:14:32 PM
$7200?

As much as i love my 05...it's too much.
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Post by: framebinder on April 12, 2009, 07:15:10 PM
Yes, of course, the color!  It is that great orange color.  I haven't been able to closely inspect it yet.  It's at a dealers and is behind many other bikes that are stored.  It'll be available soon for more gandering and I hope to see all the service records too.  I'll be in touch.
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Post by: The Kurgan on April 13, 2009, 02:06:29 AM
Quote from: "Cos"$7200?

As much as i love my 05...it's too much.

For someone who wants a Pre-2007 Tiger, and want's to buy almost new, I think its worth it. The 2005-2006 Girlies are exceptional streetbikes, very well built, still can do some rough stuff, and they were still assembled in England! 4000 miles is nothing. There`s no other competition with the V-Strom or GS series.
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Post by: TigerTrax on April 13, 2009, 04:40:28 AM
Frankly....
an '05 with 4000 miles.....
You've got a $10,000 bike that has yet to be broke in.

As far as the asking price, negotiate and see where you land.
As a Tiger owner I would never tell another he is asking too much..... I want to preserve my value also.  

I have an '06. It is a great bike... the '05 is so similar. If you want something with long legs, take you coast to coast; Down forest roads;
and a great urban bike..... you'll love it!
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Post by: EvilBetty on April 13, 2009, 07:25:18 AM
Owner of a Lucifer Orange 05 Girly myself... love this bike.

The only bad thing I can say about it deals with the color...  The used body parts are RARE here in the US.

Green, Silver, Black, and even Blue come up all the time... but the Orange has been very elusive.  I've been hunting for a fairing and pannier lid since November...
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Post by: blacktiger on April 15, 2009, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"but the Orange has been very elusive.  I've been hunting for a fairing and pannier lid since November...

Simple answer to this is to buy the cheapest one you can get and take it to a body shop with the Triumph paint code and get it sprayed up.
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Post by: Stretch on April 15, 2009, 07:16:03 PM
Good luck finding that paint code.  I struck out here.
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Post by: EvilBetty on April 15, 2009, 08:24:57 PM
Been there... done that :)

The Triumph-ED paint (Lucifer Orange) is a 3-STAGE paint made by Standox (owned by DuPont).

The Paint consists of a $63/pint base coat, and a $84.68/pint pearl coat, then a clear coat.

I was going to get the prep work, 2K primer, and clear coat for free, but the guy that was going to paint it was not experienced with 3-STAGE paint.  So he called in a favor to a guy at a body shop that would take the prepped and primed parts, then base, pearl, seal, and clear the parts if I bought the paint.

Turned out it was going to cost $450 just to paint the fairing and one side pannier lid.

Apparently a lot of paint is needed to spray all the test strips to match the pearl to the rest of the bike.  So it was going to take a quart of each to match and paint... that's $300 just for the cost of paint alone.

At the time it did not make since to spend $450 to paint repaired / damaged parts, when I could buy all new for $600, and maybe get lucky buying clean used parts on eBay.  Unfortunately that has not happened.  So now I need to find out how much it would cost to paint 3 body panels and see if the cost has become justifiable.
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Post by: EvilBetty on April 15, 2009, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: "Stretch"Good luck finding that paint code.  I struck out here.

Paint Code lookup
http://www.sxcolor.info/scripts/colorin ... licensed=1 (http://www.sxcolor.info/scripts/colorinfo.dll/category?b=1&m=001&l=3&flow=special&licensed=1)

If you can find a Standox dealer, they can mix the base and pearl for you.
http://dupont.geoserve.com/forms/dpcstandox.htm (http://dupont.geoserve.com/forms/dpcstandox.htm)
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Post by: Stretch on April 15, 2009, 08:36:27 PM
I have the paint codes, it's the mixing formulae that can't be found.

Your link showed a dealer about 40 miles from me.  We'll see how that works out.  Thanks.

Funny how the company is owned by DuPont, but my local DuPont dealer can't access any of their information.
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Post by: EvilBetty on April 15, 2009, 09:57:29 PM
That first link takes you to the mixing for each stage, and whichever quantity you choose.

Motorcycle - Triumph - ED "Anywhere"

I faxed these over to the paint shop to get a per pint quote.

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/Jaredcm1/Tiger/TRIUMPH-ED01.jpg)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r143/Jaredcm1/Tiger/TRIUMPH-ED02.jpg)
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Post by: twentyfiftyoil on April 15, 2009, 10:44:26 PM
Just had mine 4 weeks 2005 Blue, done 21K, needs a little tidying but im absolutly delighted. Go get it............. :lol:
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Post by: HockleyBoy on April 16, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
I have an 05 in Lucifer Orange and love it. The price dosen't sound too bad for a well cared for bike with only 4k on it but i am sure you can knock them down in these recesssion hit times. If the bike is at the back of a lot of other bikes the dealer may have had it quite a while and may be glad to shift it.

Good luck.
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Post by: Cos on April 17, 2009, 08:10:47 AM
Alright, so maybe i'm just bitter because i couldn't sell mine when i thought i had to.  :lol:

Realistically, there's always wiggle room when you're talking to a dealer, especially at times like these (trust me, i know this well). You can probably get it for a better price.

It all depends if you're one of the "well, how much can i sell it for later" types. I bought my 05 new...i love that bike. Hell, i like it so much that i forked over extra money to ship it halfway across the world. They're solid, as dependable as any other, and that triple cylinder freakin rocks.

Get it, you won't be sorry.
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Post by: coachgeo on April 17, 2009, 08:27:47 AM
The way it sounds with all the paint you would have to buy to do test matching with..... the same amount of paint would paint the whole bike.

sooooo maybe.... paint the whole bike?  It will definately match then :D

But... this paint talk is stealing this guys thread.  Maybe start a new one and have moderator move the paint post from this thread to it?
Title: 05 Tiger I'm looking at
Post by: framebinder on April 17, 2009, 11:04:51 AM
I managed to take a couple of hours off from work today :D, it helps when you're the boss, and gave the Tiger a decent wringing out.  Keep in mind that my point of reference is a 05 T100.  Holy cow!  This sucker gets up and left! It also stops way harder.  There's good go in any gear and it'll rev forever if needed.  The tank is an ugly shape, which my wife generously confirmed, (she also bashed the color, the flyscreen, and how tall it is for her to get on (she's 5 ft.), how much louder it is and a few other choice words.  She doesn't mince words boys.  But she kept looking and later when I got home she was interested enough to ask questions.  But enough about her, back to the bike.
I don't believe it's been dropped, but just forward of my left knee and up a bit, there are scuff white marks, random shape, which might be from trees or perhaps a tie down. Maybe it could be buffed out.  There are also random scratches on the fork near the axle. That big tanks feels wide between my knees, but too much.  The handling and the way it goes over bumps is great. Other than that everything is in nice condition.  I let the dealer know that I found NADA and Kelly retails this bike for 6,500 and he acknowledged that truth.  So, I says, you agree that that is what it's worth?  Nooo, we've got too much in it to sell for that.  I'm thinking to make the 65 offer and let him stew on it.  Here is a time when the poor economy is in my favor.
After returning the Tiger, I'm headed home on the Bonne on a road I'm not as familiar with, I come around a corner, and there is a cop with the radar.
Sh*#  He swings around and lights up the blues.  I pull over.  He smiles as he approaches and says the usual, do you know how fast you were going? 40?  Not even close. 60 in a 35.  Could mean $180.  But, he's grinning and tells me he's only gonna give me a written warning.  Then he says, I'm not going to even ask you for the registration cause I know it's under the seat and hard to get at.  I says, nope, not really, it's here in the breast pocket, but the wallet, now that's another story.  See, I've got that in my jeans pocket, under my riding pants, and digging through the layers is difficult.  He grins again and trudges over to his cruiser while I lean on the Bonne.  I'm grinning knowing what kind of hooliganism I was up to on the Tiger and how glad I didn't meet up with him then!  When he returns, he says, I'd be out ridding too on such a nice day.  Thank my lucky stars.
We'll see what the dealer says and I'll let you know.
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Post by: framebinder on April 17, 2009, 11:19:32 AM
I meant to say the tank is not too wide between my knees.  Actually, the whole bike feels comfortable.  I can still comfortably reach the ground at a stop, being 6" helps.  I didn't mind the peg hight, which I've heard others modify to lower it.  The clutch pull is firmer that my Bonne, but not too bad.  Can that be adjusted?  The screen does a nice job of getting the wind off my chest without causing buffeting on the head.  I like the bike fellas.  Even the color.  Sounds like a good thing.
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Post by: The Kurgan on April 17, 2009, 01:17:46 PM
Good luck!

$6500 would be a steal for a nearly new Girly. That's was a $12000 USD motorcycle when new!

I forgot to ask if the Tiger came with the factory luggage?

IMHO, the Tiger looks heaps better with the colour matched factory luggage!

The tank is big, but it matches the lines of the Tiger very well, and especially with the rounded factory luggage.

I was admiring my Tiger yesterday evening... both with and without the luggage.

With the luggage (and my tank bag, GPS, etc.)... it looked like a proper sport-touring machine -- emphasis on touring.

Without the luggage (but with my tank bag, GPS, etc.)... it looked like a kick-ass sport-adventure-tourer -- emphasis on sport-adventure.

When I started her up and revved it with that sweet sounding TOR can... I didn't care what it looked like and was eager to go for a ride!

Oh, and BRG green is the fastest colour, but orange is nice to!  (thank god its not roulette green) 8)  :P

Cheers.
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Post by: EvilBetty on April 17, 2009, 05:26:22 PM
The color grows on you quick.  My Girlfriend hated it when she first saw it, but now almost smacked me when I considered putting black panniers on it...

I dropped mine in the gravel once.  If it had landed on something more solid the only evidence would have been a scraped up pannier, crash bar, bar slider, knuckle guard, and the area on the fork near the axle.  So the marks your seeing could be from it being dropped.

But a dropped tiger is par for the course.  These are dual-sport bikes.  As long as the expensive tank and other plastics are not scratched up or damaged it's a reasonably cheap repair.
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Post by: iansoady on April 18, 2009, 03:28:17 PM
The scuffs are probably from a low speed drop which has happened to many (most?) of us due to the height & the fact the weight is carried high.
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Post by: The Kurgan on April 19, 2009, 05:21:05 PM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"...a dropped tiger is par for the course.  These are dual-sport bikes.

I beg to differ my friend. lol

Mine is still pristine and has never been dropped. That might be partly to do with the fact that I'm used to top heavy bikes ('03 Suzuki SV1000, '08 KLR650) and the fact that I use my '05 Tiger for its intended purpose:

"grand touring" -- all-ROADS

btw... she ain't no dual sport, especially the cast-wheel, sportier geometry, stiffer suspension'ed Girlies.

Cheers.
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Post by: oxnsox on April 20, 2009, 01:45:42 AM
I have similar marks on mine from a tumble....  when a gust of wind caught me from the wrong side as I sat in the driveway waiting for traffic....  and when you think the neighbours are all watching you'd be amazed how quickly you can pick it up and ride away with some dignity
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Post by: HappyMan on April 20, 2009, 04:47:21 AM
Quote from: "oxnsox"I have similar marks on mine from a tumble....  when a gust of wind caught me from the wrong side as I sat in the driveway waiting for traffic....  and when you think the neighbours are all watching you'd be amazed how quickly you can pick it up and ride away with some dignity


 :ImaPoser  :ImaPoser  :ImaPoser  :ImaPoser
LOL!  I've been there and done that!  :mrgreen:  You speak the truth.
Title: pulled the trigger
Post by: framebinder on May 08, 2009, 04:52:53 AM
Well, the man wasn't willing to deal on the 05.  I decided that $7200 was too much and though he acknowledged 65 large was legit, he wouldn't go there.
But, it appears that patience pays.  An 06, silver Girly, with no scuffs, 11K on the clock, heated grips, new tires, 12K service, side bags, came along for 5,900.  She is now on the way to my garage!  Am I lucky or what?
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Post by: HappyMan on May 08, 2009, 04:59:02 AM
I love my 06 Girly!  Congratulations.  :wav

(http://tigertriple.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=152)

(http://tigertriple.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=148)
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Post by: Tiger04 on May 09, 2009, 05:38:38 AM
I have over 50,000 miles on my 04. Does it come with all the panniers ? If so then I'd say that the price as not that bad. I now have my tiger painted orange and I really like it better than the original black.
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Post by: zombie on May 15, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
I just bought this thing and rode it home tuesday morning
It had 1920 miles on it when I picked it up and I put 900 miles on it


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454853 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454853)

cheap as chips as the  guy just wanted rid of it.
landed north carolina 10.30 hopped on bike 11.00 and took off and made it to manhattan for 8.00 pm and dinner with a friend and then downtown to bleeker street for some blues bands.
Avoided a huge ticket in DC for splitting lanes with too much gusto  :lol:
made it home wednesday.
Bike runs  like a new bike as it should
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Post by: haulin' daze on May 17, 2009, 07:10:23 PM
I'm with COS. I LOVE my orange 05 and would not think about another bike, but that dealer wants a little too much in my opinion. There is always wiggle room.

Having said that, the bike rocks and will do just about anything.

Get it and have fun!  :thumbsup
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Post by: TigerTrax on May 17, 2009, 08:11:57 PM
Hey Zombie...
Now you have everything you want in a bike....

and

It's  a Chic Magnet! . . . . .






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