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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: RVC7 on May 14, 2009, 11:18:13 PM

Title: Here in the US, anyone order a Sargent seat for yor Girly?
Post by: RVC7 on May 14, 2009, 11:18:13 PM
What are some of the problems with the stock seat you've had? What kind of configuration did you order with Sargent? I'm sending a stock into Sargent and have never ridden on it. Thanks in advance.
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Post by: flux on May 15, 2009, 01:02:53 AM
I gotta say, my buddy BJ had a Sargent seat, and he hated it as did I.  He actually hated it so much he traded someone else for their stocker!  

Go Corbin and don't look back!  (It DOES make the bike taller though because its wide and splays yer legs out)
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Post by: Stretch on May 15, 2009, 02:12:27 AM
Corbins have that seam directly under your butt bones.  No way in hell.
Title: That's funny!
Post by: RVC7 on May 15, 2009, 02:21:03 AM
I'm selling a Corbin to get a Sargent. Ha!
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 15, 2009, 02:45:38 AM
Quote from: "RVC7"I'm selling a Corbin to get a Sargent. Ha!

I'm not really in a good position here not owning or having ever sat on a Girly (saddle)  :oops:

Let me get this straight - you are sending a Stock that you have never tried to Sargent for modding and selling the Corbin (presumably you've tried it and it doesn't suit you) to finance this hopefully comfy seating :?:

Dude, do you buy lottery tickets?
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Post by: HappyMan on May 15, 2009, 03:01:17 AM
I've got three Sargent seats and swear by them but I know plenty of people that don't like them.  Everyone is different.  The Sargent is not a cushy seat but one that offers support in all the right places.  If you are looking for a saddle that gives way under you like a couch the Sargent isn't it.  On the other hand if you prefer excellent support go with the Sargent.  They will build it exactly as you require to fit your butt.  Speak with Bill in Custom seats.

I've got a Sargent on each of the bikes below.

(http://tigertriple.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=138)

(http://tigertriple.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=144)

(http://tigertriple.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=139)

(http://tigertriple.com/forum/files/img_1441_189.jpg)
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Post by: EvilBetty on May 15, 2009, 06:15:42 AM
I've been following these seat threads, since I can barely do my daily commute without the monkey butt.  The all the seats seem to have mixed reviews, so if I can find a decent price Gel seat I think I'm going to give that a try first.
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Post by: aeronca on May 15, 2009, 10:03:50 AM
man, i put a hundred or so mile a day in my commute on the ol' steamer, and that sargent seat mod looks pretty darn good. i'd like to find a second seat and make a solo set up with a toolbox/rack on the back end of it, and i think the sargent may just fit the bill 8)
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Post by: Bruincounselor on May 15, 2009, 01:11:37 PM
I have a stock set of seats for sale if anyone wants to do the send in your seat thing. I hate the stockers and the seam between the pans was a real pain in the ass. I'm a Corbin convert to the end.

Edit: They are for a Girly
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Post by: stook on May 15, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"I've been following these seat threads, since I can barely do my daily commute without the monkey butt.  The all the seats seem to have mixed reviews, so if I can find a decent price Gel seat I think I'm going to give that a try first.

Someone said in this thread "everyone is different" (or words to that effect). That is 100% true. What one rider swears by will be precisely what another rider swears at.

What seat are you using now that causes you pain? Based on my experience, if it is the stock seat, the gel seat will be worse. If it's a Corbin, the gel seat will be worse. The Corbin causes me extreme pain too, by the way, but that certainly isn't a reflection on the seat. It just doesn't work for me, that's all.

I have tried a LOT of combinations to get something that will let me ride more than 45 miles at a stretch without being in pain. I have not tried the Sergeant and I have not tried the Day Long (they turned my order down - said my legs were too short and advised me not to even try it)  :roll:

I guess what I'm saying is try very hard to find a way to try before you buy. You may save a lot of cash if you can.
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Post by: sanjoh on May 15, 2009, 05:18:09 PM
The stock seat with an alaska sheepskin works ok for me.

 I just had the seat redone by Spencers http://greatdaytoride.com (http://greatdaytoride.com)

Sheepskin not needed with the long distance option, best $75 I've spent.
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Post by: EvilBetty on May 15, 2009, 05:30:08 PM
Anyone following that link at work may want to mute your sound :)
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Post by: atokad on May 15, 2009, 07:11:37 PM
Corbin, with their backrest. LOVE IT.  400+ miles in a day, absolutely not a pain in the @ss for me. The backrest allows me to strap/lash almost any kind of tail bag to it and the stock Triumph rear rack.

Stretch - he must ride nekked down there in them woods for that butt bones seam to bother him?!?!  :oops:

The seam on the seat doesn't bother me one bit. Course I gots a big butt and wear them stylish Olmypia Airglide pants, so maybe that is why.  Mine is also leather and I think it breathes better than any vinyl/synthetic material would, so no heat build up (lessin I been eaten them roadside burritos)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n313/atokadok/Eastern%20CO%20-%20Apr%2009/DSC01089.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n313/atokadok/Eastern%20CO%20-%20Apr%2009/DSC01097.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n313/atokadok/Tiger/P7090145.jpg)
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Post by: EvilBetty on May 15, 2009, 09:37:15 PM
Quote from: "sanjoh"The stock seat with an alaska sheepskin works ok for me.

 I just had the seat redone by Spencers http://greatdaytoride.com (http://greatdaytoride.com)

Sheepskin not needed with the long distance option, best $75 I've spent.

That looks like a good deal!  Now I just have to see if I can get a used seat at a decent price.
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Post by: atokad on May 16, 2009, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"
Quote from: "sanjoh"The stock seat with an alaska sheepskin works ok for me.

 I just had the seat redone by Spencers http://greatdaytoride.com (http://greatdaytoride.com)

Sheepskin not needed with the long distance option, best $75 I've spent.

That looks like a good deal!  Now I just have to see if I can get a used seat at a decent price.

Sell you mine!  PM me.
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Post by: TigerTrax on May 16, 2009, 12:24:03 AM
I'd take a close look at the russell Day Long seat.
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Post by: EvilBetty on May 16, 2009, 06:01:40 AM
I have a guy that was going to sell me his stock seats (both of them) for $30 plus 20 shipping, but he had another guy interested at the same time and I have not heard back from him.

You think the Russel is that much better than what this guy is offering?  If memory serves the Russel was VERY expensive.
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Post by: macgart on May 17, 2009, 06:09:32 PM
Hi all, a new Girly owner here.  Thought I'd just jump in.  I have to +1 Spencer.  I tried a couple of different (expensive) options for my KLR and was not happy with any of them.  The only benefit was that they thinned my wallet out.  I had Spencer do the LD mod to my stocker and loved it from the jump.  I did a 2600 mile Baja loop in 14 days with the seat and had no complaints.  $75 well spent.  

I'll be sending my Girly seat in this fall when I'll be in Ireland for a couple of weeks.

Seat comfort is so subjective that it seems to be an issue on all bikes.
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Post by: haulin' daze on May 17, 2009, 06:57:05 PM
I've never had any problems at all with the stocker. I've done up to 450 miles with no pain in the arse.

As has been said before; Everyone is different.
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Post by: RT on May 18, 2009, 02:13:38 PM
Tried a sheepskin.

Tired the Spencers mod plus a sheepskin.  Was an improvement.

My problem was the ridge along the back of the seat which caused discomfort after about an hour even with the Spencers mod.

A buddy let me try his Russell which is a great seat.   If your short forget it however as it sits you really high.  And yes it's expensive, but worth the money.

Me, I went with a Bill Mayer seat. Mayer was having a group buy discount which allowed me to save some $$.  Great support, and the "hump" is gone in the back of the seat. Plus still allows me to adjust the height of the riders seat.  Been a great solution for me. But again it's a love/hate thing.

Another option is to find a local guy that can custom fit a seat for you.   Will pay about the same as you would for the Sargent but the seat will be custom made for your butt.
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Post by: Wiggus on May 18, 2009, 04:19:52 PM
A Sargent came on my '99 Girly so I don't know what the stock seat feels like. I haven't done an all-day ride yet, but I did about 5 hours yesterday with one break and I was comfortable the whole time. We were doing about 70% road / 30% off-road. It's a stiff seat that supports me very well. I didn't have any parts falling asleep.

I was looking at Sargent's site and I didn't see any offerings for the Tigers, just rebuilds. Maybe they are discontinued. Mine is two-piece, fits perfectly, yellow piping that matches the bike. I'm 5' 10" and I'm on the balls of my feet at stops.
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Post by: HappyMan on May 19, 2009, 03:04:51 AM
Sargent seats for the Tiger are only custom.  They will rebuild off your stock pan and design it to support you where you need it.  They are not cushy seats but good supportive seats that will give you miles and miles of comfort because you will not be putting pressure unevenly anywhere.    That being said, everyones butt is different which is why it needs to be made for your own rear end.  Getting a Sargent for your Tiger that was not designed for your butt doesn't always work.  I did luck out with one once though.

One last thing needs to be said on this subject.  Proper seating position (Master Yoda) http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2739 and constantly shifting your position is very, very important to your comfort.  No matter what seat you're riding.
Title: Split Seat
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 19, 2009, 03:46:18 AM
Slightly OT.

Has anyone ever tried using a two piece seat on a Steamer.

Just wondering if it's a practicable solution to having a solo / touring box configuration that can be easily swapped around rather than having two full length Steamer seats?
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Post by: HappyMan on May 20, 2009, 05:26:29 AM
In case you haven't seen this yet.....From the Everything Else for sale list....


http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,6091
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Post by: The Kurgan on May 20, 2009, 01:46:49 PM
Might I suggest the factory gel seat? While I haven't owned any big rigs like a Goldwing, I can say that my gel seat is more comfortable than any stock seat I've been on.
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Post by: EvilBetty on May 20, 2009, 09:27:55 PM
I wonder too if my large arse is having problems with that ridge / hump on the back lip of the seat.  It might be pitching my pelvis forward and causing to me to ride on the same pressure points for my entire ride.

I've tried moving around the seat but there's not much room to wiggle.  I'm either having my lower regions crushed into the tank, or having my my pelvis dig into what should be ample cushion already :)

Does the 1050 single piece seat have this problem?
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Post by: HappyMan on May 21, 2009, 04:51:51 AM
If that is the case then having a custom seat made for you.  When I have my Sargent's made I mark off where my butt is and they make it to fit my tucus.
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Post by: EvilBetty on May 21, 2009, 07:25:56 AM
Well on the ride home I paid a little more attention to it.  To me it feels like I'm actually bottoming out the stock seat.  The back lip only seemed to bother me when I was trying to scoot back farther to re-adjust.  So maybe I just need it rebuilt with better padding.  If only all these seats and windscreens were stocked locally and they would let you ride test them for a day or two... geez...
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