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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: B.Curvin on September 24, 2009, 01:17:28 AM

Title: I might part out a 98 Tiger
Post by: B.Curvin on September 24, 2009, 01:17:28 AM
I'm just gauging interest. I've not decided what I'm going to do with it.

If I do part it, are folks here needing parts?

I'm fixing a case of broken DAR at the moment. I'll ride it a bit afterwards and make a decision.

Here's the Tigger in question.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Tigger%20Pics/IMG_02751.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Tigger%20Pics/IMG_02761.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Tigger%20Pics/IMG_02831.jpg)

BTW, I'm new here. Howdy.

I have to admit to knowing FullMonte though.
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Post by: Hittman on September 24, 2009, 05:30:30 AM
Dibs on the side case mounts!  :D
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on September 24, 2009, 06:09:48 AM
If you fix the DAR, why would you part it out?
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Post by: B.Curvin on September 24, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
Quote from: "Dr. Mordo"If you fix the DAR, why would you part it out?

Reading all the issues here has scared me. What little time I have to ride, I want to ride.

I traded a plated 2005 XR650R for it.
 
I'd need ~3,500 out of it, which I'm not going to get. Parting it would net me

enough for a nice down payment on a 1050 Tigger.

I need a 2 up bike that's good for longish distances.
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Post by: John Stenhouse on September 24, 2009, 11:42:38 PM
Your daft then, once the DAR is done, theres your two up bike. Tiggers love to be ridden
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Post by: Mustang on September 25, 2009, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: "B.Curvin"Reading all the issues here has scared me. What little time I have to ride, I want to ride.

I traded a plated 2005 XR650R for it.
 
I'd need ~3,500 out of it, which I'm not going to get. Parting it would net me

enough for a nice down payment on a 1050 Tigger.

I need a 2 up bike that's good for longish distances.

Puhleeze just because it's green like JetDocx doesn't mean it's bad  :ImaPoser

My favorite steamer , Tigger 2  has 62,000 miles on it and I just got back from a 7000 mile trip and would leave for points unknown on it tomorrow , it IS THAT RELIABLE !

These things are built like a brick shithouse !

Take care of it it will take care of you !

and you need to seriously think about parting it out .......the only place you will be able to sell parts for it is probably on flea-bay and other than the lump of engine (which BTW costs an arm and a leg to ship ) you'll be lucky to see 2 k for it .

If the bike has no mechanical issues and is a good runner  with fairly new tires brakes chain and sprockets it is easily worth 3k

But having said that .....I'll give ya $250 bucks for the wheels with the brake rotors . :shock:
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Post by: oxnsox on September 25, 2009, 03:24:04 AM
QuoteReading all the issues here has scared me.
Don't be fooled by the postings... If you think about it anyone with a problem is, these days, going to go straight to the www find a forum and look for answers... by asking questions and getting answers.  Sooo... what you tend to see in the forums is all the problems.  No many folk log on to say " Rode the Bike to work today and enjoyed it..." (How long would that forum last??)

Hell if you look around some of the other bike forums there are bikes there that you'd swear shouldn't have left the factory.

But the fact is if any bike was as bad as some forums make em look then the manufacturer wouldn't be in business at all. For everyone that posts a problem there will be numerous others who just had another great no problems (no post) ride.

But the forums are great places to come and swap 'how-to' and 'has-anyone' stories... its like having all your mate's come into your garage and actually being interested in what you're doing in there... but without the beer... and bacon
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on September 25, 2009, 05:42:31 AM
:iagree Don't look at my posts, just about all the issues I am encountering were the cause of previous numpty mechanics or owners.

Grease nipples are there for a reason!
Air filters stop things going into the engine, stop doesn't mean they just dissapear!
Brake fluid doesn't last forvever!
And power tuning does not mean attacking the carbs and cans with a cordless power drill  :twisted:

They are great sturdy beasts, even with all of the above mistereatment it still rode like a thing possesed and probably still would be if I hadn't decided to take it apart but I am an unrepentant fiddler  :lol:
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Post by: JetdocX on September 25, 2009, 06:11:32 AM
I'll mostly stay out of this, but I've seen better equipment designed by third graders.  

I love my Steamer, but WTF?  One design problem after another?

I'll be riding her this weekend at the West Coast Ride-In.  Sans, chain slider(s).  Other than that, she's running like a raped ape. :D

I'd like to think it's because of all the hard work I've done, but I'm skeptical.  :roll:
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Post by: Dr. Mordo on September 25, 2009, 07:22:27 AM
My bike has just under 80k miles on it.  It has had DAR, the Sprag failed, and that's it.  It has had other problems, but they are problems any bike would have that sat for years without being started or ridden.  

My goal is to get to 100k.  I'd be surprised if I didn't make it.  

Really and truly, the poster boy for Steamer problems is the Jetdoc, but when you look past him things really aren't so bad.  So if your luck isn't catastrophically bad, you'll more than likely be happy with the bike.
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Post by: nightrunner on September 25, 2009, 10:01:18 AM
Quote from: "JetdocX"I'll be riding her this weekend at the West Coast Ride-In.  Sans, chain slider(s).  Other than that, she's running like a raped ape.

Are you the one that posted that chain sliders are NLA?   Seems like someone claimed they could get them.  I saw them on Bike Bandit and ordered both the slider and the other rubber bit.  Don't need them but I figured I'd get spares while I can.
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Post by: aeronca on September 25, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
i just got a lower chain slider (and one for my swing arm) for my 95' at bikebandit. it took the typicle month to get it, but they had them.
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Post by: Mustang on September 25, 2009, 01:58:52 PM
My bike bandit orders usually only take 10-14 days . They must like my money (http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/emoticons/cashwallet.gif)(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/emoticons/24.gif)
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Post by: Papalobster on September 25, 2009, 02:59:06 PM
Before I picked up my 98 in July, I did all the reading too. I came away with a perception that tere are a couple of isses with the Steamers, but overall reliable.

Having said that, I've had mine for 2 months now and other than a rejet and chain adjustment, I've ridden to work every day and no problems. Just over 3k miles so far. I'm thinking I should change the oil too. My tach is dead, but I found the cause, it was a wire that wore through and grounded on the gauge frame, I repaired it, but tach still doesn't sweep.

I came off of the epitome of stone reliable bikes to get the Steamer. An R100GS. I read reviews on how fantastic the bike was, how you could ride it to 250k miles and do nothing but change the oil and fart on the seat it was so great. It turned out to be the bigeest POS I've ever owned! Driveshaft failure, coil failure, starter failure, transmission faiure $2500 in repairs in 1.5 years of ownership. That was just parts! Sure they're easy to fix, but I wanted a bike I could just ride. FAIL! I guess I'm the JetdocX of Airheads......except I quit them!

In reality, ride the thing. If you get a huge problem, then worry about parting. Dibs on the CDI and tach (My tach doesn't work, not sure if it's the CDI or Tach).
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Post by: Nick Calne on September 26, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
Steamer are good bikes to ride as I'm sure you know by now.  Something magical about them.  But your bike is over ten years old, it is always going to have some issues.  I'd fix the bike up and ride it round for a couple of years and get a bit of enjoyment out of it.  It will be worth the same money if you break it for parts in two years and probably more money if you break in five years when parts are getting a bit more scarce.  So isn't that like free motorbiking or something?

PUS You get to hang out with us guys and talk crap!!!. :Topes
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Post by: B.Curvin on September 26, 2009, 02:29:28 PM
(edit, I just re-read my post. It's a serious ramble, I haven't had my coffee yet. sorry)   :?


All right all right. I'll give it a whirl.

I'm gonna take the alternator to my machinist buddy and have him get

the broken bolt out and chase the threads or re-tap it.

This weekend I'll get the carbs out and and check all jets and needles

and replace any worn parts. New airbox/filter, send the seat to sargent

and drop the suspension at Rick Tannenbaums house.

Replace the shifter bushings, order the lowered pegs, throw on Tag risers

and Pastrana FMX bars and I'll be ready to go. I forgot, order MRA screen from Twisted throttle.

These things sure get expensive fast.


Hmmm. On second thought I believe I'll just do the alt, carbs and filter and ride it

locally to shake it down this winter. I already put 400 in a valve adjustment.

I'd hate to dump 2 grand in it then have to part it in the spring.

Apparently I'm the 3rd owner. Supposedly the first owner was the Southeast

Triumph sales rep or some such. I'm sure he would of taken good care of it.

The second owner apparently neglected it. The exh valves had zero lash,

and until adjusted it only had 65, 110, and 85 PSI. After adjustment it jumped to

175, 180, 170. Pretty darn good. Someone had previously tried to fix the DAR and I had to drill out

the stripped lower bolt holding in the Alt.

Yep, do the little stuff and ride it this winter to make sure it's not going to keel over.



I just dropped far too many cubic buttloads of cash into this thing.

Bringing it home (cellphone pic)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/IMG00230-1.jpg)

Getting started

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/IMG_0361.jpg)

Parts

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/IMG_0419.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/IMG_0334.jpg)

Fully adjustable RM125 forks
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/202a_12.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/4776_1.jpg)

Done except for tires. I also pickep up a second set of wheels to lace 17" rims to.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Project%20DR/IMG_0450.jpg)
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Post by: aeronca on September 26, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
:icon_scratch strange looking steamer you got there.
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Post by: B.Curvin on September 26, 2009, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: "aeronca":icon_scratch strange looking steamer you got there.

That's the DR project I just finished while the Steamer was waiting in the wings.

I've had the Steamer for ~4 months while I looked for a replacement for the XR-R.

I was just giving an example of why I'm leary of dropping more money into

a somewhat questionable bike.
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Post by: aeronca on September 26, 2009, 06:38:51 PM
got it. i would love to have a dr my self.  dont sell the tiger short, it really is a fun bike.when i got mine i was convinced it was a p.o.s.   but a few parts later - and 20000(+) mls, i love it. your's looks great in the pic's, and i think once it's running good, you will agree with the rest of us. 8)
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Post by: oxnsox on September 28, 2009, 02:56:55 AM
Curvin... here's a Steamer reliability post you may not have seen...

Quote'93 Tiger - now 115,000km = 71,500 miles:
Zero oil consumption over whole life, used fully synthetic from first service, changed annually, about 7,000 km.
Engine never dismantled, last two valve checks within tolerance!
While I don't bounce off the rev limiter, I don't hang around either.
My $0.02c
_________________
Bill
Newcastle, Australia
'93 Tiger Caspian Blue
115,000 km & counting!
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on September 28, 2009, 05:09:14 AM
Quote from: "B.Curvin"All right all right. I'll give it a whirl.


 :hello2 Yippee, the power of the dark side is strong  :XXcomputer
Title: What is the fate of the 98 Steamer now?
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on April 11, 2010, 06:03:28 PM
Just want to know how it's going. If you still want to part it out (doubtful by now), I'm up for the Keihin Carbs.
Title: Re: What is the fate of the 98 Steamer now?
Post by: ramseybella on April 12, 2010, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: "Colonel Nikolai"Just want to know how it's going. If you still want to part it out (doubtful by now), I'm up for the Keihin Carbs.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk237/ramseypete/images.jpg)Seat and plastics!! Rear wheel as well..
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Post by: B.Curvin on April 14, 2010, 04:00:15 AM
I'm hanging in there with it for the time being. I will update if things change though.

I'm about to post a question/problem about my "new" coils.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/svmango/Icons%20and%20pics/snork.gif)
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Post by: Hittman on April 27, 2010, 03:11:17 AM
I still get dibs on the luggage if you change your mind  :lol:
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Post by: rybes on April 28, 2010, 07:10:35 PM
dont break it keep it. mines done 60 thousand miles now and only probs ive had is igntion pick up n coils. the only reason im rebuildin it is through wantin a new bike but cant afford one. cheaper to rebuild :wink:

KEEP IT, YOULL LOVE IT  :D
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