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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Colonel Nikolai on November 21, 2009, 08:58:11 PM

Title: Tiger without rear suspension
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on November 21, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
Removed the rear suspension to send to Suspensions by Sasquatch to have it redone. Anxiously awaiting the new unit!
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on November 23, 2009, 03:08:23 AM
A hard tail Steamer, that sounds interesting.

You'll be buying an HD next  :lol:
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Post by: JetdocX on November 23, 2009, 03:32:46 AM
All my friends...do the low rider..... :lol:
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Post by: Colonel Nikolai on November 23, 2009, 04:26:08 AM
Lol, I guess it does look like a low rider steamer a bit!  8)
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Post by: oxnsox on November 23, 2009, 10:46:48 AM
Ahh... A picture of a naked Steamer.... with a hard tail....
 Now I understand JD's Stripper
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Post by: Sasquatch on November 25, 2009, 05:43:45 PM
I am in control of your bike's destiny........ Buahahahaha!!!!!


 :D

Spring has been shipped, but with the holiday, I am anticipating having it done by Monday/Tuesday of next week.
Title: Awesome Sasquatch!
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on November 26, 2009, 12:03:15 AM
Cool! Hopefully I won't be installing it when snow is on the ground, but if I have to, I will! :)
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Post by: Sasquatch on December 02, 2009, 10:20:31 PM
Shipped today.
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Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 02, 2009, 11:25:54 PM
Awesome!!!11!

Just got the UPS Quantum View notification a few minutes ago.  Can't wait to put 'er all back together.  :headbang
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Post by: aeronca on December 03, 2009, 02:03:48 AM
sasquatch does awsome work - you'll be very very happy. :D
Title: Can't wait
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 03, 2009, 05:13:06 AM
I totally can't wait. I'm just bummed that the conditions might be too icy to even try it out :cry: but we'll see.
Title: Coming tomorrow
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 07, 2009, 03:59:27 AM
The unit it coming tomorrow!

:wav

Yay!
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Post by: HappyMan on December 08, 2009, 03:44:09 AM
8) I can't wait to hear what you think about it.  Of course considering we're getting about 6" tomorrow you might have to wait until January before the roads are clear enough.  If you like winter rides I'm always game so give me a holler!
Title: Got the new shock
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 09, 2009, 03:49:43 AM
Got the new shock tonight! First noticeable difference: The spring is shorter and progressive. I have to start shoveling out my sidewalks and driveway before I can even think about putting it back in the Tiger. *Sigh*

 :cry:

The only thing surprising me is the preload nut is free-spinning now: I thought that was the thing that's supposed to, erm, preload the spring? Should it be snug against the spring mount or is it vestigal now?
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Post by: aeronca on December 09, 2009, 04:10:09 AM
i think you will need to set the sag, thus the free spinning nut. mine came like that from sasquatch, and when he explained to me what to do, it made sense.  congrats, cant wait for the ride report.  by the way - went for a spin today - 28 deg. in the sun - after 40 miles at 70, my fingers were frickin burning numb, but at least there was no snow :lol:
Title: sag? is that my butt you're talking about?
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 09, 2009, 04:34:51 AM
Where did he tell you what to do to set the "sag"? I would love to have 27 degrees fahenheit right now. We're sitting at 17 right now in MN :?

Also, HappyMan, if you want to meet up, just say where and when. Of course I have no rear-end at the moment, sagging or otherwise :P, but after I get the new suspension in, I'm game!
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Post by: HappyMan on December 09, 2009, 05:12:33 AM
Yes, definitely we should get together sometime.  We should probably shoot for January whether with the bike or not.  I only know of three of us here on the site from Sunny Minnesota!!  Come January let's try to catch up whether you contacting me or vise versa.  8)
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Post by: aeronca on December 09, 2009, 07:56:32 AM
i couldnt find the thread on setting sag, but i remember it going something like this. tighten the big nut on the spring untill you get about 3" of drop when you sit on the bike. in other word's, your back end of the bike should squat down about three inches when you sit on it. that should be the "sag". your best bet is to talk to sasquatch and he can explain it  much better than me. but i hope this helped a little :)
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Post by: Sasquatch on December 10, 2009, 01:31:16 AM
Hi guys.  Here is a link to my blog on setting the sag.

http://sasquatchrider.blogspot.com/

I leave the nuts loose to force the owner to set the sag.  I need to get some documentation together to ship back with the shocks on how to do this.  I will get this done soon for future customers.
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Post by: aeronca on December 10, 2009, 02:18:24 AM
Quote from: SasquatchHi guys.  Here is a link to my blog on setting the sag.

http://sasquatchrider.blogspot.com/

I leave the nuts loose to force the owner to set the sag.  I need to get some documentation together to ship back with the shocks on how to do this.  I will get this done soon for future customers.

hey sasquatch, since your a mod, could we post the link to your site for setting sag in the wisdom section??? it's pretty helpful. :)
Title: Forcibly sitting on hands
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 10, 2009, 02:25:12 AM
Sasquatch, thanks for the info! I'm shoveling out of 10" of snow still (my shoveling efforts last night were eradicated by morning) and it's 5 degrees right now :shock:. With my unheated garage, tigger's going to have to wait until the weekend to put it all back together. :cry:

Then I won't try and ride for a while so I might not have much to say about compression and rebound settings and the final report on how the bike feels with the new kit in it. But when I do get around to it, I will report on it! I'm a little beside myself!
Title: Installed the suspension
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 14, 2009, 01:56:54 AM
Hello everyone. I successfully installed the suspension from Sasquatch! A couple of noteworthy things: 1) I had to disconnect the dogbones from the lower shock mount on the linkage to get the clearance to put the shock in. This is really puzzling since I did not have to do this to remove the old shock. I don't understand this, maybe I'm just stupid. Once the dogbones were off, however, the shock installed in 2-3 minutes. Since I struggled with it for almost an hour before deciding I needed to disconnect the dogbones, I was nearly frozen and just put the bike on its sidestand. I did not even tighten the bolts, notwithstanding put all the parts back on it or even start it up.

In the process of struggling to put the shock back, I scraped a tiny bit of the coating off the new spring in a couple of places. This bums me out: I don't want the new spring to rust! I will probably paint some rubber dipit over the scrapes this spring prior to finally reassembly, setting the sag and playing with the dampening.

I'll post pictures when I can.
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Post by: HappyMan on December 14, 2009, 03:00:19 AM
It's always so tough to work on the bike in the cold. I'm fortunate to have a heated garage and every time I use it I remind myself of how lucky I am.   Sorry you had a rough time of it.  I'd do the same with the spring and get some plastic dip to put on it.  Our salt here in the winter is a killer on our bikes...
Title: unheated
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 14, 2009, 03:08:05 AM
Heated garage. :thumbsup

I really envy you. I have a single car garage, detached. I wish for a two-car all the time, I just can't bring myself to fork over the ~10k to make it happen, or find the time to do it myself for half that.
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Post by: HappyMan on December 14, 2009, 04:21:02 AM
I can make my garage available to you if it helps.  Just give me a ring and I'd be happy to help out as well.  Could find a beer or two as well.....
Title: A Capital Fellow
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 15, 2009, 01:38:33 AM
Dude!  8) That's very kind of you. I may take you up on that at some point in the future. Do you own a steamer or a Girly or what? If you owned a Steamer you could probably talk me through adjusting my valves this spring if you've ever done it before. I'm developing the courage to try it on my own, someone who's been there would put me over the top! I'll buy you lunch or beers or whatnot.
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Post by: HappyMan on December 15, 2009, 03:22:18 AM
I've got an 06 Girly so no experience in the valve work on the Steamer but SERadke is from Mnpls as well and he's quite handy with a wrench.  I haven't seen him around lately.  Don't be a stranger!
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Post by: Mustang on December 15, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: "HappyMan"I've got an 06 Girly so no experience in the valve work on the Steamer

They are exactly the same as far as the valve check and adjustment is concerned .

This explains it pretty well ...............................

http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/msg,34259

and if you have a lot of valves to shim it is easier to pull the cams and get them out of the way.

I've also found that the silicone on the rubber valve cover gasket is not needed , Triumph recommends it . I don't use it ........... YMMV
Title: Mustang
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 15, 2009, 07:14:07 PM
Mustang, I've pored over that link several times already! You are a godsend: it's one thing to read it in my Haynes manual, it's another to see it explained by someone who has been there. I even bought a used valve shim tool from ebay already (new finger design). It's sitting in a tin box in my toolbox taunting me each time I open.

I've already mentioned I've tackled projects in my Haynes manual that are "three wrenches" (on a scale of one to five in difficulty) and since valve check and adjustment is also "three wrenches", I figure if I'm a serious Tiger owner, it's time to "man up" and learn how to love these babies right.
Title: rear suspension installed
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 20, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
Ok, I got the Tiger put all back together. Here are a couple of pix that show the installed rear shock by Sasquatch.

The first shot is a longer shot with a little red arrow pointing to where you can see the purple spring from the new suspension. The first one is a close up: I have not tried to adjust anything yet, as you can see.

One thing I did notice: it takes about 2-3 times the amount of downward force when I throw my body down against the seat to get the rear to drop. This downward forcing I have decided to develop a deeply technical term: "assslamming".  :ImaPoser

More progress on this thread when the warm weather comes. Sorry I couldn't take this project any further yet!
Title: Report: First Ride on the Sasquatch Phase II Rear Suspension
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on March 28, 2010, 06:09:40 AM
I've been riding the tiger lately with the new Phase II Rear Suspension rebuild from Suspensions By Sasquatch.

http://www.sasquatchrider.com/tiger.html (http://www.sasquatchrider.com/tiger.html)

So far it's like riding a new bike. The only thing that doesn't feel new is the FRONT suspension *sigh*

I haven't set the sag or played with the rebound or preload at all. Need to do that. But it's simply an amazing transformation.
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Post by: Sasquatch on March 29, 2010, 06:01:46 PM
I am glad you like it.

I can fix that front end for you as well.  Or more likely, set you up with the parts and you can do it yourself to save on labor.
Title: Front end woes
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on March 29, 2010, 06:15:26 PM
I might take you up on that. She feels "forward sloppy" and seems to waver up front a bit. Might just be prejudice from my '96 Sprint, which has had a complete rebuild of the front end in 2006?
Title: Less vauge with new tires
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on May 07, 2010, 05:09:13 AM
Turns out the front end is less sloppy now that I replaced the tires. The old tires were 7 years old.
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