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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Medic09 on November 25, 2009, 03:08:25 AM

Title: Centerstand Woes
Post by: Medic09 on November 25, 2009, 03:08:25 AM
I've read other threads on the centerstands, but I want to see if there is any new insight.

I put my '02 Girly up on the centerstand to change chain and sprockets.  The rear wheel doesn't clear the ground on the level floor of my garage.  So I put it up a bit on a jack.  That's problem #1.

I had a little trouble getting the bike on the stand, but I attribute that to my small size and weight - 5'7" and under 150 lbs/68 kg with short arms and legs.

Got the work done, and then could not get the bike down off the stand.  It took my wife and I to safely get it down on the side stand.  That's problem #2.

The centerstand is the Triumph original.

Any insights appreciated.  I'd hate to have a flat somewhere, and not be able to use the centerstand.

Thanks!
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Post by: JetdocX on November 25, 2009, 04:39:49 AM
use the passenger peg to help you.  Lift there while stepping down on the lever.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on November 25, 2009, 09:33:50 AM
The rear wheel should clear the floor,  sounds like it's distorted -a well known problem, although i haven't had it  (so far...)
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Post by: TigerTrax on November 25, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
The Triumph OEM centerstand is a POS.

The gauge metal is much too thin and it fatigues easily.

This winter I have to try and put a fix on mine ( '06 ) by strengthening
the legs and the plate that supports them.

I believe one of the main causes for all this is the leveraged weight
of top box & saddle bags.
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Post by: Mustang on November 25, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
I thought you were looking to trade in your tigger for a  *gasp* goldwing :shock:




Can't do it can ya :?:
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Post by: zombie on November 25, 2009, 03:54:55 PM
My centerstand is shagged too and leans to the left kinda like me  :lol:
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Post by: Medic09 on November 25, 2009, 04:08:15 PM
So far it sounds like the best option may be get a new stand?

Of course, I'll remain with the final problem of getting it back down; but at least I'll be able to work on my ride.   :roll:

Anybody else?
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Post by: NebraskaRat on November 25, 2009, 05:45:53 PM
I reworked my oem centerstand this fall.  I took the side mount plates off and straightened in a vise with a hammer.  Drilled out one of the stripped out pivot bolts to 1/2" and welded a 1/2" shoulder bolt in place for a solid pivot point.  And last, I hacksawed and hammered a couple of 1/8" thick steel "shoes" and had them welded to the pads on the bottom of the feet. Now I have 1/2" clearance between tire and floor when on center stand.  Works like new.

NE-Rat
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Post by: 2004Tiger on November 25, 2009, 05:54:35 PM
I noticed that when on the OEM centerstand, my 2004 was not upright, and had increased difficulty putting it up. After a while the right side centerstand pivot failed, dumping my bike in the driveway. Upon inspection I saw the failed pivot had gradually loosened, the threads were destroyed. I should have investigated as soon as I saw the tilt to avoid disaster, but I didn't know what the configuration was down there or what held it together. Recalling that 2 years ago I found both footpeg brackets loose and requiring several turns on each bolt, a common 955i problem, I guess the centerstand pivot problem started at that time. Now I know that the peg bracket bolts also hold the centerstand support, and if they are loose the pivot tends to disengage from the hole in the support. As often stated, a poor design.
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Post by: blacktiger on December 07, 2009, 12:27:01 PM
On mine the ground clearance problem came about due to wear in the pivots but also because one of the pivot bolts had stripped its thread. So I drilled out the threaded hole and put a 10mm bolt through the stand and the back plate, with a nyloc nut on the back and tightened it just enough to take out all the play. I now have the ground clearance back.
IMO even when new the stand goes over centre too much which lets the bike sink too low.The stops could do with building up somehow to stop the stand earlier in its travel.
Title: tiger oem centerstand
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 07, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
When I hear about the oem centerstand woes ion the tiger I just don't get it. I have a 96 triumph sprint and the centerstand is built like a brick shithouse. I've never heard of the DAR or sprague clutch problem in the non-steamer triumph world. Did triumph just put cheaper parts in the steamer or what?
Title: Re: tiger oem centerstand
Post by: akendall1966 on December 07, 2009, 10:48:11 PM
Quote from: "Colonel Nikolai"When I hear about the oem centerstand woes ion the tiger I just don't get it. I have a 96 triumph sprint and the centerstand is built like a brick shithouse. I've never heard of the DAR or sprague clutch problem in the non-steamer triumph world. Did triumph just put cheaper parts in the steamer or what?

I would have to beg to differ my old 95 sprint got 'the DAR' just before I traded it in for the T595. Sorry to say I don't think the early hinkley triumphs roadsters caught the imagination apart from the tiger and the street triple perhaps to the extent to have following like we have here.
Title: good to know
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on December 07, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
Good to know that this is a problem there, too. How many miles on it before you traded it in?[/quote][/i]
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Post by: akendall1966 on December 07, 2009, 11:13:40 PM
wow that is back in 98 - I think it was 30~35K on near 4 year old bike.
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Post by: PeteH on December 08, 2009, 01:14:37 AM
I bought a stand in the Triumph sale for my 99, back wheels a good 2" off the ground when its on it, second time I lifted it the bike somehow fell over when part way up but the engine bars did their job.
 
Quote from: "JetdocX"use the passenger peg to help you.  Lift there while stepping down on the lever.
I use the hanger, I guess thats what you mean, and also rock the bike back and too rather just haul it up.
I`ve also noticed that the right hand side seems out of true to the bracket, and so some distortion has occured. Should have fitted some spacers when fitting it to take up the slack between the brackets and the stand.
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