Man I just installed my shock and want to go for a spin but after sitting in my friends cold garage for little over a month it took an hour or so to get it to fire up, I toped the tank with fresh gas it ran like a raped ape and purred like a cat going home 53 miles in 29 or less degree weather!!
Now after it sat over night in 20 degree weather it is not firing up sounds like it is getting close like the first time at my friends house but it starts sucking the battery and I don't want to blow the Sprag!!
Anybody know what I should do, it seems to be way to cold for this cat? :roll:
Check your valve clearances. If your vavles are too tight they will be held open when the engine gets too cold and the cylinders will not make compression.
Quote from: "JetdocX"Check your valve clearances. If your vavles are too tight they will be held open when the engine gets too cold and the cylinders will not make compression.
It sits on my front porch I don't have a garage, If I put it in a heated garage will this most likely help? My wife wanted me to bring it in the house what a trooper I had to say no as much as this sounded like a great idea! My next project was to remove the three spinning side cover screws to get to the motor the air filter and carbs and Yada, Yada ,Yada!!
You know what I mean?
Getting a Vstrom is sounding better every day but I love this bike when it is running and it runs so good when it does.
Thanks for your help Jetdocx
It's the jetting in the carbs more than likely .
If you want it to start easier you are gonna have to rejet for cold weather and then rejet again come summer weather .
It is way too lean from the factory or even summer jetting to start easily in the cold , anything below 40 degrees f is too cold for the ways it is jetted
if it's a 98 with keihins you will need at least a 120 main and 45 pilots in the carbs for cold and if mikunis you will need 140's for mains and 45 pilots .
as jetdocx says the valves can cause a problem when left in extreme cold . when and what were the clearances , and if you don't know well then it's time to check em .
my Honda 450 is bumped up from 132 main to 180 for summer riding, and mods and when the temps get down below 40 degrees f it is a pain to start , needs at least to go up 2 more sizes for winter riding .
or get the trooper to build you a heated garage
:ImaPoser :D
Quote from: "Mustang"It's the jetting in the carbs more than likely .
If you want it to start easier you are gonna have to rejet for cold weather and then rejet again come summer weather .
It is way too lean from the factory or even summer jetting to start easily in the cold , anything below 40 degrees f is too cold for the ways it is jetted
if it's a 98 with keihins you will need at least a 120 main and 45 pilots in the carbs for cold and if mikunis you will need 140's for mains and 45 pilots .
as jetdocx says the valves can cause a problem when left in extreme cold . when and what were the clearances , and if you don't know well then it's time to check em .
my Honda 450 is bumped up from 132 main to 180 for summer riding, and mods and when the temps get down below 40 degrees f it is a pain to start , needs at least to go up 2 more sizes for winter riding .
or get the trooper to build you a heated garage
:ImaPoser :D
Thank you Much Mustang, looks like I need to start pulling some spinning screws next weekend? :?
I'd love to tear my bike down in the warmth and comfort of my living room. Too bad it's on the upper level. :twisted:
Good luck.
Quote from: "JetdocX"I'd love to tear my bike down in the warmth and comfort of my living room. Too bad it's on the upper level. :twisted:
Good luck.
Well technically the Tiger is a big dual sport. Ride it right up the stairs :lol:
Quote from: "nightrunner"Quote from: "JetdocX"I'd love to tear my bike down in the warmth and comfort of my living room. Too bad it's on the upper level. :twisted:
Good luck.
Well technically the Tiger is a big dual sport. Ride it right up the stairs :lol:
Don't forget the YOUTUBE video if you do JD :qgreenjumpers
film at eleven :ImaPoser
I solved the problem getting my beast to start in the cold, First bought a sealed high output batterie Placed a Ceramic heater in font of the motor for about two hours with the cover on and within two to three cranks bam!!
She fires up but I do let it idle slow to let it climb to temp and get the oil flowing took about 20 to 25 mins, don't want too break anything, all it needed was a place to get cozy.
These cat's are cold blooded. :roll:
Took it for a 150 mile spin to Ghost Ranch in Abiquiu new mexico, I went north big mistake, even a transient guy standing on the side of the road gave me this look as he spun his index finger around the side of his head at me stating I was nuts riding in the cold, it was around 45 degrees out at 2:30 PM.
It was super to get out and ride after two weeks but yes I was a bit crazy as by the time I got home I needed a Cozy place to thaw out. Burrrr!!
Quote from: "ramseybella"even a transient guy standing on the side of the road gave me this look as he spun his index finger around the side of his head at me stating I was nuts riding in the cold, it was around 45 degrees out at 2:30 PM.
It was super to get out and ride after two weeks but yes I was a bit crazy as by the time I got home I needed a Cozy place to thaw out. Burrrr!!
that aint cold this is cold
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I wouldn't be attempting that without the sidecar or spiked tyres - and I have no experience of either!! :shock:
Looks like you need the driven third wheel transmission from a Ural :ImaPoser
LOL if it would warm up to 45 degrees I'd still be riding!
We've had snow on the ground for 2 weeks and I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon with temps down below 10.
OK Gent's Just pointing out the fact I could take a spin, no 45 is not cold but I got it started and went for a run is my point of this thread..
Thank's for the input. :wink:
Quote from: "ramseybella"OK Gent's Just pointing out the fact I could take a spin, no 45 is not cold but I got it started and went for a run is my point of this thread..
Thank's for the input. :wink:
we're just goofin with ya :D :lol:
The cold est I have ever been while riding was 2 years ago on an early April day
Left out of park city utah with 27 degree f temps and snow (tigger just berely started that morning )with about 400 miles to get to my brothers in cheyenne ,WY
froze my ass off
tiggers don't like to sit in the cold ,mine live in a heated garage they are spoiled like me :ImaPoser
My three are shivering in the garage at 23F taking turns on the Optimate to keep their batteries safe.
Quote from: "ramseybella"OK Gent's Just pointing out the fact I could take a spin, no 45 is not cold but I got it started and went for a run is my point of this thread..
Thank's for the input. :wink:
We're also just extremely jealous :D
Quote from: "Mustang"Quote from: "ramseybella"OK Gent's Just pointing out the fact I could take a spin, no 45 is not cold but I got it started and went for a run is my point of this thread..
Thank's for the input. :wink:
we're just goofin with ya :D :lol:
The cold est I have ever been while riding was 2 years ago on an early April day
Left out of park city utah with 27 degree f temps and snow (tigger just berely started that morning )with about 400 miles to get to my brothers in cheyenne ,WY
froze my ass off
tiggers don't like to sit in the cold ,mine live in a heated garage they are spoiled like me :ImaPoser
I know you guys are Goofin, but I think it is time to park the monster till it warms up or I will be getting freezer burnt.
Took it out Sunday 100 mile run south this time it was colder than in the mountains riding in the planes was too much, I took a 30 min break and she wanted to do it's thing again but it started. So I got home and parked it pulled the battery, my next question is can I use a 1.5 amp charger/tender on a 1.2 amp 12v sealed battery?
Thanks guys for all your input.. :D
my experience with battery tenders ..........left for long periods of time they tend to cook off the electrolyte and the level ends up below the lead plates and then you have a good battery that turned to junk .
THIS IS ON REGULAR OLD FASHIONED BATTERYS that you have to add the acid to when they are new .
but your tender should work fine on the sealed battery , what I would do if you are storing it inside where it is warm and toasty , which BTW is the best thing you can do for it .
Put it on the tender for a week and when it shows full charge UNHOOK it from the tender for a week or two , then put it back on the tender until it shows full charge .
repeat as often as necessary .
Long term storage with tenders like the 29.95 auto zone versions or battery tender jrs. will ruin a batt when left connected for long term storage .
Optimates are about the only thing that gives good long term storage , that's why they cost much more to buy .
I take the cheap and easy way myself .........for 35 bucks I throw a new lead acid battery from Wal=mart in it every spring time . No storage concerns and I know I have a new battery every spring .
Quote from: "Mustang"my experience with battery tenders ..........left for long periods of time they tend to cook off the electrolyte and the level ends up below the lead plates and then you have a good battery that turned to junk .
THIS IS ON REGULAR OLD FASHIONED BATTERYS that you have to add the acid to when they are new .
but your tender should work fine on the sealed battery , what I would do if you are storing it inside where it is warm and toasty , which BTW is the best thing you can do for it .
Put it on the tender for a week and when it shows full charge UNHOOK it from the tender for a week or two , then put it back on the tender until it shows full charge .
repeat as often as necessary .
Long term storage with tenders like the 29.95 auto zone versions or battery tender jrs. will ruin a batt when left connected for long term storage .
Optimates are about the only thing that gives good long term storage , that's why they cost much more to buy .
I take the cheap and easy way myself .........for 35 bucks I throw a new lead acid battery from Wal=mart in it every spring time . No storage concerns and I know I have a new battery every spring .
Do you live next door or something? :lol:
the 29.95 auto zone versions battery tender is what I have!! I did the Interstate Acid version but it did not put out enough amps to crank my Steamer.
Thanks I will do the charged on off thing.
Quote from: "ramseybella"Do you live next door or something? :lol:
the 29.95 auto zone versions battery tender is what I have!! I did the Interstate Acid version but it did not put out enough amps to crank my Steamer.
Thanks I will do the charged on off thing.
:ImaPoser no but I did stay in a Holiday Inn once :ImaPoser :ImaPoser
Low cost chargers shouldn't be left on any battery long term... Even the week that Mustang suggests is too long, for a 1.2amp charger anything over 24hours is just cooking time.
Most battery chargers make a lot of assumptions about your battery.... including the ambient temperature its sitting at. If you were to look at manufacturers specs for any battery you find there are quoted voltages (and capacities) at different temps.
Although a decent battery charger will have 3 or 4 distinct charging steps or phases, unless it is also monitoring battery voltage and temp its not recommended to leave them connected for long periods. (unless you are in a climate where temps are consistantly moderate)
And to be honest I haven't actually seen a temp compensated charger for smaller capacity (bike style) batteries.... or not one that I'd say was afforable for most of us.
Quote from: "Mustang"Quote from: "ramseybella"Do you live next door or something? :lol:
the 29.95 auto zone versions battery tender is what I have!! I did the Interstate Acid version but it did not put out enough amps to crank my Steamer.
Thanks I will do the charged on off thing.
:ImaPoser no but I did stay in a Holiday Inn once :ImaPoser :ImaPoser
Drum Roll Please!! :lol: