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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: tett on December 24, 2009, 02:20:50 AM

Title: How to install heated grips
Post by: tett on December 24, 2009, 02:20:50 AM
Just won a set of heated grips for my Tiger.  Thanks Bixxer Bob!

Would like to know if there are any tips or tricks which would help with the installation.  Anyone out there install a set lately?

Cheers!

tett
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Post by: EvilBetty on December 24, 2009, 06:02:02 AM
Don't do it when your tired :)

I just installed a set right before I left for Jasper, AR in October.

It's pretty straight forward.  It's a little tricky threading the wires through the bars and out the little holes on the bottom.  I used a trash tie bent into a loop to push the wires through then fish them out.

Finding the power connector under the fairing was quite a bit of trouble for me.  Mine was tucked up on top the wiring harness around the lamp housing.  Took me quite a while to find it.

The rest of the fun was just trying to figure out where to route all the extra cabling.  Have plenty of zip ties on hand ;)

Also pay attention how you connect the switch to the relay.  That will determine which way the toggle goes for warm and hot.
Title: Re: How to install heated grips
Post by: Bixxer Bob on December 24, 2009, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: "tett"Just won a set of heated grips for my Tiger.  Thanks Bixxer Bob!

tett

Except that it turns out I helped him buy them from our own not-so-newbie, Chairhead.... :BangHead

We can't half make things difficult for ourselves sometimes.... :roll:
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Post by: tett on December 25, 2009, 12:51:12 AM
Thanks Evil!  This will help.  Looking forward to do a January install.  If the roads are clear I may even put the battery back in and take it for a spin.

tett



Quote from: "EvilBetty"Don't do it when your tired :)

I just installed a set right before I left for Jasper, AR in October.

It's pretty straight forward.  It's a little tricky threading the wires through the bars and out the little holes on the bottom.  I used a trash tie bent into a loop to push the wires through then fish them out.

Finding the power connector under the fairing was quite a bit of trouble for me.  Mine was tucked up on top the wiring harness around the lamp housing.  Took me quite a while to find it.

The rest of the fun was just trying to figure out where to route all the extra cabling.  Have plenty of zip ties on hand ;)

Also pay attention how you connect the switch to the relay.  That will determine which way the toggle goes for warm and hot.
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Post by: EvilBetty on January 04, 2010, 12:41:28 AM
Has anyone replaced the OEM switch with a panel mounted heat troller?

My grips are usually TOO hot on even the lowest setting.  Once they get heated up I find myself having to hold my hands out in the wind to cool them down.
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Post by: HappyMan on January 05, 2010, 07:30:01 AM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"Has anyone replaced the OEM switch with a panel mounted heat troller?

My grips are usually TOO hot on even the lowest setting.  Once they get heated up I find myself having to hold my hands out in the wind to cool them down.

Interesting thought though I have not had that problem too often.  Perhaps because I live in Sunny Minnesota....Either way, I'd be interested too if someone has done such a mod.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 05, 2010, 01:46:10 PM
Some aftermarket brands come with a rotary control (I'm guessing that's what you mean) so it shouldn't be hard.  We just need to know how the maximum currrent the grips draw, factor in 50% for safety (we don't want any fires do we?)  and then find a pot that's up to it.   In fact, thinking about it, a pot that's rated a bit higher than the fuse should do it.  I'll get to it  and see what I can find.

All you sparkies out there are welcome to add anything constructive... :roll:

I'll start a new post.... :roll:
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 05, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Anyone seen Tett???

He's gone a bit quiet and I have these heated grips to post.....
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Post by: EvilBetty on January 05, 2010, 06:32:19 PM
Part of my problem is that I ride year round with mesh gloves.  Between the heated grips and the OEM hand guards I've found I don't need any warmer gloves.

Downside I think is that they transmit much more of the heat directly to my hands.

I thought there were major problems with running a pot in line with something like this.  My understanding was that the trollers are a pulse width modulator and work by turning on and off the grips (or other heated gear) at variable rate defined by the dial, effectively adjusting the heat and not causing any additional resistance in the circuit, wasting power and creating heat under the fairing.

Though I'd have to assume the toggle switch is using a resistor at some point in the circuit to reduce the power in the low setting.

I'd really hate to mess with the OEM circuit anyway.  I'd assume a panel mounted troller would eliminate both the switch and the relay from the kit.
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Post by: EvilBetty on January 05, 2010, 06:36:45 PM
Something like this is what I had in mind.
http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Fir ... 22632.html (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/First_Gear_Heated_Grip_Controller_Single_Mounted_HeatTroller_--622632.html)


Installing the switch and the LED in the OEM blanking plate, unless I can find a way to mount it in a more friendly location.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on January 05, 2010, 08:38:09 PM
That's the sort of thing I had in mind, but not at $53  :shock:

See my new post in farkles.....
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Post by: tett on January 05, 2010, 11:05:47 PM
I am here I'm here!  What, did I not read my messages?

I will send a PM.  



Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"Anyone seen Tett???

He's gone a bit quiet and I have these heated grips to post.....
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Post by: blacktiger on January 10, 2010, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: "EvilBetty"My understanding was that the trollers are a pulse width modulator and work by turning on and off the grips (or other heated gear) at variable rate defined by the dial, effectively adjusting the heat and not causing any additional resistance in the circuit, wasting power and creating heat under the fairing.


Think I got something like that feeding my heated jacket liner. The LED flashes faster the hotter the jacket gets.
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