Time to retread the tiger. Have the original Anakee's (previous owner only put 4K mi on in 4 years) Anyone tried the Anakee 2s ? Whats the verdict ? Dirt / gravel roads only comprise about 10% of my riding. They claim the 2's get 30% better mileage compared to Tourances (not sure if it's the standard or EXP) Anyway - your commentary welcome. j
In a recent German Magazine, so no surprise that the Trail Attack won, they did rate the Annakee II for wet weather riding and also did comment on its good wear rates, but overall they gave it a 6th place, it came last in the dry conditions test, they found stability issues with it
The Order was
1) Conti Trail attack
2) Metz Tourance EXP
3) Pirelli Scorpion MT90
4) Dunlop 607 and Bridgestone BW
6) Annakee II
7) Avon Distanzia
As I said, German Mag and they do tend to be fairly patriotic, but Im not surprised the Avon came last.
Ive got the whole test as a PDF if you want a copy PM me an email address
I hate my Trail Attacks. I'd pull 'em off right now if someone wanted to trade for new Anakees.
JetdocX - What don't you like about them ? Inquiring minds desire data. Thanks, j
I had a nasty experience with Anakees. Two up plus luggage, southern Morocco - blow out on the rear.
Removed tyre, found that the 'soft' sidewall had been rubbing against the tube till it went through.
Pressures correct, passenger wasn't a bloated porker (12 yo son), not overloaded luggage. Just a shite tyre design, immediately changed to TKC80's, no further problems for the remaining 7,000 miles of that particular trip, off and on road.
Would never use Anakees again. Currently on Tourances, no problems now or before with them, good wear rate too.
Quote from: "jphish"JetdocX - What don't you like about them ? Inquiring minds desire data. Thanks, j
They do surprisingly well in the dirt considering their street tread pattern when aired down, but anything loose and it's a scarier ride than either Anakees or TKC's. No confidence in them on the wet pavement. The front tire might be defective because I get a nice wag in the handlebars when slowing down. Over 120 mph, the front wheel has a vibration to it that was not there before that tire was installed.
I don't like it, but I also can't seem to be able to wear them out so I can justify a tire change (being the cheap bastard that I am).
I love my Distanzias! Though I'm only 1K into them so far.
I have the Pirelli Scorpion MT90s, over 4k on them so far. At first I was horrified compared with the Tourances I was used to. They felt like they were on a knife edge, dropping into turns everywhere. But after a day or two I got used ot them, and found it was the slightly higher profile making them steer more easily. They need much less bar effort on the turn in, and are completely neutral steering. It goes where it's pointed instead of trying to run wide everywhere. I really like them and had a whole summer of abusing them. Confidence was really high, cornering hard everywhere. In the wet, they aren't as grippy as a full road tyre and probably start to slide slightly before a Tourance BUT once sliding, they are progressive, not all or nothing like the Tourance so it's more of a warning that a fright. they've squared off a bit now due to high motorway mileage on the work commute but they still handle ok and there's quite a few miles in them yet...
BTW, my tyre man tells me that Pirelli and Metzler tyres come out of the same factory...
Iv'e tried the Scorpion syncs & distanzias on my Uly. Good tires both - but scorps were pretty thin for large cobble gravel roads and got flats. The distanzias are a very capable road/rain/gravel/dirt (NOT mud) tire, but never got more than 4.5K mi to wear bars. I think I've narrowed it down to Anakee2s or Tourances - but want to read Tims German tire test link first. Thanks all. Hey! lets start an OIL discussion & make our friendly moderators groan with trepidation. TTFN, j
Replaced my front Anakee last year...cupping. Was in the local Triumph shop yesterday to pick up oil and a filter and decided to get a Distanza on the back to match the front. So far, I really like the Distanzas. Seem to have plenty of grip and my unimproved surface mileage is next to nothing at the present.
Just changed my 20k klms Anakee's to 2's at the weekend, so wear was pretty good, front "cupping" very badly in the last 2k, very light and flighty above 140kph.
So far mostly the same as far as ride quality goes, haven't got the skin off them yet so I was a bit cautious in the rain. If anything they seem to turn in a bit quicker than the previous ones, if that's possible, may just be due to the wear squaring the old ones off.
A word of warning to anyone tempted to put Dynabeads in through angled valves, I hope you have a whole week to spare :roll: . Short of feeding in each grain one at a time it's not going to work. In the end I got fed up with tapping the valve for over an hour and broke the bead on one side to get them in. So far seems to be smooth and trouble free, dificult to say with these things unless you stop and take them out for comparison :shock: , Not going to happen.
Don't give me an ear bashing Mustang, I am trying. :wink:
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"A word of warning to anyone tempted to put Dynabeads in through angled valves, I hope you have a whole week to spare :roll: . Short of feeding in each grain one at a time it's not going to work. In the end I got fed up with tapping the valve for over an hour and broke the bead on one side to get them in. So far seems to be smooth and trouble free, dificult to say with these things unless you stop and take them out for comparison :shock: , Not going to happen.
Don't give me an ear bashing Mustang, I am trying. :wink:
you mean kinda like this .............
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/extreme%20makeover/DSC_2800.jpg)
I put the dynabeads in my Girly through the angled valves. It wasn't too bad as long as you have 2 things. An engraver, and a abundance of patience. You have to let them feed in single file. Anything more than that and it clogs. Some times the clog would clear right away. Other times the clog took a lot of manipulation of the feed tube and the engraver.
Quote from: "greg"I had a nasty experience with Anakees. Two up plus luggage, southern Morocco - blow out on the rear.
Removed tyre, found that the 'soft' sidewall had been rubbing against the tube till it went through.
Pressures correct, passenger wasn't a bloated porker (12 yo son), not overloaded luggage. Just a shite tyre design, immediately changed to TKC80's, no further problems for the remaining 7,000 miles of that particular trip, off and on road.
Would never use Anakees again. Currently on Tourances, no problems now or before with them, good wear rate too.
You got 7000 miles out of TKC 80's??? :shock: I barely squeak out 3K. I'm not complaining and I know I'm tough on tires but 7K? Wow!!!! 3K and I'm seeing through it.....I mean, if you're gonna ride off road I'm gonna have fun!!!!
Quote from: "Mustang"you mean kinda like this .............
It's a bit like waiting for a comet to strike, you know it's coming, you just don't appreciate how fast it's going to be :ImaPoser
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"It's a bit like waiting for a comet to strike, you know it's coming, you just don't appreciate how fast it's going to be :ImaPoser
:ImaPoser
Just bought a set of the II's for the Steamer. Cannot ride yet, as I seem to have fianlly worn the rear brakes out, stripped one caliper pad retention pin and I'm waiting on new pins and seals for the pucks.
Maybe spring will arrive by the time my parts get here. :roll:
With generic parts (carbs, brakes etc) that are made by someone else other than Triumph, it's worth popping to your local dealer to see if they can match what you want. Brake pad pins should be no problem :wink:
I tried getting the dyna beads through the valve stem. Forget it. I don't even believe you did it Evil! If you did you have the patients of God!
After fighting it for ten minutes I knew I could never do it so I broke the bead and squirted them in. That only took a couple of minutes.
As for how they work, they are FANTASTIC! I now believe all the hype around these. My tiires are perfectly balanced. I left the old weights on and they were smooth up to 100mph. Took the weights off and just as smooth.
Cheers,
tett
Quote from: "EvilBetty"I put the dynabeads in my Girly through the angled valves. It wasn't too bad as long as you have 2 things. An engraver, and a abundance of patience. You have to let them feed in single file. Anything more than that and it clogs. Some times the clog would clear right away. Other times the clog took a lot of manipulation of the feed tube and the engraver.
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"With generic parts (carbs, brakes etc) that are made by someone else other than Triumph, it's worth popping to your local dealer to see if they can match what you want. Brake pad pins should be no problem :wink:
My dealers hardly carry anything in stock. It all comes from Georgia. So I'm waiting for brake pins and pads from Triumph central in Georgia. If you're talking about local independent shops, I sadly have few options. The recession has been pretty hard on the moto industry.
I'm on my second pair of Bridgestone Battlewings and love them, exellent in the wet and handle superbly in the dry even with the bike loaded up. I moved away from the Anakees due to the lack of confidence in them in the wet and just feeling too much 'movement' through corners when riding a little spirited :lol: . But thats just me...!
I get the feeling tyres are a very personal choice, what suits one won't necessarily suit another. Then pressures, bike set up and riding style will all influence a choice of tyre.
Anybody running TKC 80's and have a good objective opinion? I'll probably be riding 60/40 street/dirt. Maybe more
I run them and melt them down. I ride easily 80/20 dirt to asphalt and I love them. They are quite decent on pavement. Get a little squirley in the rain but not too bad. They are incredibly awful on ice. I've also run Anakees when touring and hitting more asphalt as well as Tourances. If I'm on a long trip that I think I'll hit a lot more asphalt than normal and I'm going to hit snow and ice I'll run the Anakees or Tourances.
If you run a lot of dirt roads and some off road I'd recommend the TKC's. As long as you don't mind changing your own tires since you'll be doing it a lot.
I was a skeptic on the DynaBeads. However...recent experience has changed that. Just finished 12,500 trip on my Uly with a new set of PilotRoad2s with the beads - no weights. It was smooth up thru triple digits - no vibration (well...other than the fact I WAS riding a Buell afterall) & still got a few K miles left on the rubber. I loaded them prior to sealing the bead as showed in pics. Prefer valve stem method but the challenge of 90* stems and the fact my 'patient sainthood' papers from the pope aint arrived yet - I'm reluctant to test myself.
Quote from: "jphish"I was a skeptic on the DynaBeads. However...recent experience has changed that.
nice are they not , it is so nice having a tire that is
ALWAYS in balance even as the tread wears down , isn't it ?
Like I have said before any one who is a skeptic ....simply has never tried them , they work period !
use anakee 2 and found them fine in the dry and wet. Local dealer recommends Bridgestones so I may try them next. :D cheers Spud
Mustang was right...again. I did have to put 1.5 oz in front tire (instead of the 1 oz recommended - trivial thing) to get it smoothed out, but as mentioned, the tires stayed in balance for the entire 12K+ miles. I don't pretend to understand all the arguments pro/con - all I know from experience, is that they work. Good enough for me. j
Quote from: "Mustang"Quote from: "jphish"I was a skeptic on the DynaBeads. However...recent experience has changed that.
nice are they not , it is so nice having a tire that is ALWAYS in balance even as the tread wears down , isn't it ?
Like I have said before any one who is a skeptic ....simply has never tried them , they work period !
Don't you just hate it when he is always right :P :wink:
Actually - No. I rather like it. If you were wrong most the time...I'd have taken alot of bad advice. So far, I'm happy to say, that has not been the case. Institutional memory coupled with experience is generally a good thing. Glad us newbie Tiger owners have the 'Mustangs' around. Cheers, j