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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: kelpie_67 on February 21, 2010, 12:37:51 AM

Title: Clutchless Shifting
Post by: kelpie_67 on February 21, 2010, 12:37:51 AM
Anyone have any thoughts on this - do you or don't you. Is it bad or good? Once again the Uber Noob asks the obvious.....


 thanks in advance for your wisdom
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Post by: Mustang on February 21, 2010, 01:34:38 AM
sometimes I do mostly on upshifts though and generally only when really wanking on the throttle doing redline pulls  :shock:
when you have 38 years of riding under the belt you just sort of know when to shift , but for most part I just use the clutch :wink:
Title: Notchy
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on February 21, 2010, 03:04:11 AM
I used to have this old Suzuki GS that could clutchless shift like the dickens: totally effortlessly. I can't get my 96 Triumph Sprint to clutchless shift well: its too notchy. Never tried on the Tiger: figured it'll be as notchy as the Sprint. I'd like to be told otherwise and it's just me or the particular Sprint I have.
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Post by: Mustang on February 21, 2010, 03:34:36 AM
full synthetic oil makes a triumph shift like it has butter for gears  .......... :headbang
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Post by: HappyMan on February 21, 2010, 04:02:48 AM
yes, like butter.  I rarely use the clutch on up shifts.
Title: Mobile 1 R4T
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on February 21, 2010, 04:43:16 AM
I've always used Mobile 1 Racing 4T in my Sprint and now in my new (to me) Tiger, so I have nothing to compare it to. I recently switch to Amsoil synthetic motorcycle oil in the Sprint as an experiment as it's a tad cheaper.
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Post by: HappyMan on February 21, 2010, 04:46:14 AM
I've only ever run Mobile 1 4T.  Works too well for me to consider anything else.  I'd love to hear what you think about the Amsoil.
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Post by: Mustang on February 21, 2010, 05:09:40 AM
shell rotella T from Wal mart works good too . But I am with HAppyman here
Mobil 1 MX4t from autozone 9 bucks a quart good stuff  :love10
if I am doing multiple days of long rides in hot weather (summertime roadtrip) I'll use the Mobil 1 v-twin stuff instead of the MX4T as it is a higher viscosity 20-50 if IRRC
Title: amsoil
Post by: pletdj on February 21, 2010, 05:27:08 AM
I use amsoil in everything from my quads, to truck to bikes.  I have had great success and any independant study i have seen has put Amsoil at the top of the list.
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Post by: kelpie_67 on February 21, 2010, 05:42:25 AM
I have shifted most all my bikes in the past without the clutch - all you need to do is pay attention to engine speed and actual speed - in fact bikes are easier to clutchless shift than the tractor trailers i used to drive and believe me I hardly ever used the clutch once moving. I just wanted to know other peoples experiences since I love my old (2000) Girly and want to keep her for a while
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Post by: JetdocX on February 21, 2010, 06:48:32 AM
Sometimes when I'm up on the pegs, I do my upshifting on the fly without clutch and no problems so far.  Downshifting can be a bit violent, but I'm talking low speed, here, so 1st and 2nd gears.
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Post by: Nick Calne on February 21, 2010, 01:09:34 PM
On a tiger? - clutch every time.....what's the rush?

Sportsbikes -well that's a different matter.  :wink:
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Post by: cosmo on February 21, 2010, 05:49:22 PM
Both my '96 Trophy and my Girly ('06) shifted better W/O clutching, tho downshifts require a technique that has been learned through over 20 years of riding and at least ten years of driving a semi.

But, I find that bikes with a face cam for shift drum location work better than those with a star-shaped cam, as you can easily pause between gears rather than have the drum rotate into the next gear.

Cosmo
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Post by: Sniffy on February 21, 2010, 07:42:21 PM
On my Roadie I use the clutch for engaging first and then it's clutchless all the way up. Like has been said before, smooth as butter  :)
Title: Fixing the sprint
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on February 21, 2010, 08:04:50 PM
I'll let you know about the Amsoil in a few weeks here in the Sprint once I fix the short / relay implosion I got lately.  :cry:
   
http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,7212 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,7212)
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Post by: HappyMan on February 22, 2010, 12:20:37 AM
I haven't had much winter riding at all this year Colonel.  Been to busy to enjoy life....but we still need to get together sometime so let me know when you hit the road.  And don't forget if you need a heated garage to give me a shout.
Title: Cool
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on February 22, 2010, 12:30:09 AM
I'll keep this in mind, thanks so much for the offer!
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on February 22, 2010, 04:15:18 PM
I really had to struggle not to when I went back to do my DAS after 30 yrs awol. The Roadie loves it, the Vara shifts smoother than with the clutch and the Steamer was pretty sweet considering the condition, Lord I really want that bike back on the road soon.
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Post by: zadok_oz on February 22, 2010, 10:13:12 PM
Clutchless upshifts all the time, except for 1st to 2nd in slow traffic. Feathering of the clutch and blip for smooth downloads.
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