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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: Geoff D on March 08, 2010, 01:01:15 PM

Title: Headlight relays
Post by: Geoff D on March 08, 2010, 01:01:15 PM
Just bought relays off ebay for my 2004 Girly, just to save a bit of time looking  :roll:  who can tell me the easiest way to fit 'em.....  thanks
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 08, 2010, 09:31:35 PM
Furkle around under the dash next to the cowling on the left hand side below the heated grips switch and you'll find a rubber cover.  Make a careful note of how it goes on and which way round then remove it (it just pulls off).  The two empty relay sockets are under there.  If you are having trouble orientating them, use a mirror to have a quick look at the sockets first.  When they are in place, test the lights then put the rubber cover back.  Job done!!
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Post by: Geoff D on March 08, 2010, 09:58:40 PM
Thanks mate... :thumbsup
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Post by: KuzzinKenny on March 09, 2010, 02:23:53 AM
Check that the lights go out when you hit the starter button, that means they`re the right ones !! if not, the battery goes flat when parked up !!  :?  no idea why, its just what i`ve heard !!

KK
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 09, 2010, 09:40:08 AM
Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"Check that the lights go out when you hit the starter button, that means they`re the right ones !! if not, the battery goes flat when parked up !!  :?  no idea why, its just what i`ve heard !!

KK

Because when the twin headlamp thing was first muted a millions years ago!!,while the cost was exactly going to break the the bank,as per usual some tight arse thought they could buy cheaper,with the result the bargain version  flattened the battery :roll:

I'd take the fairing off rather than trying to break your wrist trying to fit e'm,it's only a 5 minute job in any event.

Regardless of one or two headlamps,as i read on here not so long back,for what good the Triumph headlights are,you'd be better off eating carrots :wink:
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Post by: Geoff D on March 09, 2010, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"Regardless of one or two headlamps,as i read on here not so long back,for what good the Triumph headlights are,you'd be better off eating carrots :wink:


Was toying with the idea of trying some better bulbs at the same time..
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 09, 2010, 11:53:56 AM
Carrots don't improve your night vision, it was a ruse to try to stop the germans figuring out we had radar. Aside from that I don't have a problem with the lights, you lot must ride way faster than me!
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 09, 2010, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"I'd take the fairing off rather than trying to break your wrist trying to fit e'm,it's only a 5 minute job in any event.

If I was doing it again now I'd probably do the same, but at the time I'd never had the Girl apart. and wasn't sure how keen Geoff'd be to get stuck in.  It's no worse than changing the bulbs on a Blackbird; doing that a couple of times'll give you the hands of a gynocologist.... :oops:
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Post by: Geoff D on March 09, 2010, 09:14:45 PM
Its ok, I've furkled & managed, although getting the rubber back on is a bit of a bugger.... :roll: anyway am used to furkling, do it all day fittin tachographs to trucks and buses, got uj's in me wrists now  :lol:

Never heard the furkle word befors Bob  :lol:  my word of the week now
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 09, 2010, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"Carrots don't improve your night vision, it was a ruse to try to stop the germans figuring out we had radar. Aside from that I don't have a problem with the lights, you lot must ride way faster than me!

We go to Le-Mans every year,were we enjoy the delights of getting off the Caen/Portsmouth ferry at 9/10pm on a monday night coming home,normally freezing and often pissing down and faced with an 175 mile ride home in the pitch black,my 1100s with an HID is like broad day light,the Tiger is an utter and complete waste of time,being able to see were i'm going isn't the problem,foxs and badgers strolling across the road are,particularly at the speeds were travelling at,which brings us back to speed,so yes John i'd say your right.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 10, 2010, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: "Geoff D"Never heard the furkle word befors Bob  :lol:  my word of the week now

I think I first heard it used by Blaster Bates many years ago.  He was an army explosives expert turned civvi demolition expert turned funny story teller.

I have a clip somewhere where he tells how Knicker Brook got its name.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 10, 2010, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"Carrots don't improve your night vision, it was a ruse to try to stop the germans figuring out we had radar. Aside from that I don't have a problem with the lights, you lot must ride way faster than me!

We go to Le-Mans every year,were we enjoy the delights of getting off the Caen/Portsmouth ferry at 9/10pm on a monday night coming home,normally freezing and often pissing down and faced with an 175 mile ride home in the pitch black,my 1100s with an HID is like broad day light,the Tiger is an utter and complete waste of time,being able to see were i'm going isn't the problem,foxs and badgers strolling across the road are,particularly at the speeds were travelling at,which brings us back to speed,so yes John i'd say your right.

Chris,  I'm trying to understand what you said; 1100s with HID?  I agree the Tiger lights are a waste of time, I've got the relays and brighter bulbs with no real improvement whereas I've got HIDs on the Blackbird and they are like daylight.  I keep wondering if HIDs are the way to go for the Tiger though as it would probably mean removing the relays to save dazzling other drivers, any thoughts?
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 10, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
Not really related, but HIDs are illegal for bikes
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 12, 2010, 08:32:19 PM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"
Quote from: "Chris Canning"
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"Carrots don't improve your night vision, it was a ruse to try to stop the germans figuring out we had radar. Aside from that I don't have a problem with the lights, you lot must ride way faster than me!

We go to Le-Mans every year,were we enjoy the delights of getting off the Caen/Portsmouth ferry at 9/10pm on a monday night coming home,normally freezing and often pissing down and faced with an 175 mile ride home in the pitch black,my 1100s with an HID is like broad day light,the Tiger is an utter and complete waste of time,being able to see were i'm going isn't the problem,foxs and badgers strolling across the road are,particularly at the speeds were travelling at,which brings us back to speed,so yes John i'd say your right.

Chris,  I'm trying to understand what you said; 1100s with HID?  I agree the Tiger lights are a waste of time, I've got the relays and brighter bulbs with no real improvement whereas I've got HIDs on the Blackbird and they are like daylight.  I keep wondering if HIDs are the way to go for the Tiger though as it would probably mean removing the relays to save dazzling other drivers, any thoughts?

E'r that BMW1100s,there's one very simple reason why i haven't fitted e'm,bone idle!!!,two really would be overkill,jeeze even the main beam is( i don't have one),i've cruised my S at a steady 100+ on pitch black unlit roads and it's like broad daylight.
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 12, 2010, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: "John Stenhouse"Not really related, but HIDs are illegal for bikes

Hence why i see so many bikes with them,the fact so many new cars have them,your never going to get pulled in a million years,and if I do it'll be my small number plate,noisy can,and the 130+ i was doing at the time that they might be more interested in :wink:
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 12, 2010, 10:00:46 PM
Very true Chris  :lol: . Just another thing they might chuck at you after being stopped for something else.

Speed is definitely the answer why I don't need better lights, I think I topped 75 on the way back from the GSer meeting I went to last week.
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 12, 2010, 10:06:21 PM
John

I have a current conviction an MS60,i was witnesses to have handle a plastic bag while sat in 3 lanes of stationary traffic on the M6,HID doesn't even come close :roll: ,but i do have an extensive conviction list over the years :wink:
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Post by: John Stenhouse on March 12, 2010, 10:09:54 PM
He must have been in a real shitty mood that day! Can't see how that is in any way dangerous? Sort of thing that goes on in cars all the time, why is a bike different?
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Post by: Tiger Tito on May 07, 2010, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"Furkle around under the dash next to the cowling on the left hand side below the heated grips switch and you'll find a rubber cover.  Make a careful note of how it goes on and which way round then remove it (it just pulls off).  The two empty relay sockets are under there.  If you are having trouble orientating them, use a mirror to have a quick look at the sockets first.  When they are in place, test the lights then put the rubber cover back.  Job done!!

Hi Bixxer Bob,

I just did the Relay fitting but found that when the Relay ubicated downwards was placed there was not neccesary to place the other relay at the upward position because lights work as I wanted.

Is it really neccesary for some reason to place the second relay?

Thanks
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on May 07, 2010, 11:20:50 AM
Working from memory as I can't get at my wiring diagram at the moment, I think you need two relays to enable both lamps on dip and both on main beam, but I could be wrong.... :roll:
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Post by: oxnsox on May 07, 2010, 11:54:58 AM
Mr Haynes isn't clear on this, it simply shows a single relay for main and another for Dip. But from my memory I think there is a set for each light as Bob says. (I had to change mine from dip to the right to dip to the left)
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Post by: daveb on September 19, 2010, 08:05:07 PM
just fitted the 2 relays on to my 2006 tiger 955i (07 plate), ready for autum / winter riding.

the local council's around here are turning off street lights to same money.


Edit: just checked the main lights go off when starter is pressed, I read here about this will ensure they are the correct ones.
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