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Title: Warped Rotors
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 19, 2010, 01:06:15 PM
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£310 for EBCs and HH pads..... :evil:
Title: warped rotors
Post by: jonathan jaecks on March 19, 2010, 01:44:26 PM
My 06' is on its third set of rotors... the first two sets each lasted less than 3k miles.  Replaced under warranty as part of a rotor recall.
Running EBC pads and recently swapped out brake lines for Spiegler braided lines (separate lines for front right and front left to eliminate the shitty crossover brake line).  It has helped, however I'd still like to swap out the rotors for full floating as soon as EBC has them available.  I'm probably going to pull the calipers and do a rebuild this summer as well...I'd love to trade up those as well but I'm taking it one component at a time.

Jonathan
06' silver
Title: Re: Warped Rotors
Post by: chairhead on March 19, 2010, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"£310 for EBCs and HH pads..... :evil:

I dont think thats bad at all,ok nobody wants to pay out £310 but for discs and pads.......not bad
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 19, 2010, 02:18:16 PM
Which discs are they??,don't EBC do a set of full floaters :D .
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 20, 2010, 01:39:12 PM
Used EBC's tedious but effective on line search engine at:

http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/?source= ... 4wodIzHrZw (http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/?source=googleebc&keyword=ebc%20brakes&gclid=CIeT3Lyrx6ACFYMA4wodIzHrZw)

and ordered:
 
Vehicle: TRIUMPH/Tiger 955 (Cast wheel) from VIN 198875/04-06/
Item   Part Number    Qty    Unit Price    Unit Weight    Part Description
1.    FA196HH          2    19.98      0.3kgs Actual   EBC Double-H Sintered Pads for Fast Road Use
2.    MD676LS          1    124.95     3kgs Approx    EBC Streetbike Discs (LS  = Left Side RS = Right Side - no suffix = rear disc)
3.    MD676RS          1    124.95     3kgs Approx    EBC Streetbike Discs (LS  = Left Side RS = Right Side - no suffix = rear disc)
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Post by: Timbox2 on March 20, 2010, 06:00:38 PM
Think the 676 discs are full floating anyway, have a look here

http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/tiger-9 ... 1445-p.asp (http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/tiger-955i-04-07-cast-wheel-ebc-floating-disc-upgrade-md-676-lsrs-1445-p.asp)
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 20, 2010, 08:24:11 PM
These EBCs appear to be floating too....

Removed the old ones tonight in preparation for the new ones arriving.  My luck is running to spec as one bolt wouldn't come out.  Had to resort to drilling it.  Fortunately once I'd drilled out to just under the threads it gave up and came quietly.  I'll be off to the stealer on Monday for a complete new set... or maybe I could spend tomorrow morning making stainless ones on my lathe :P

Except it's the wife's birthday so it'd be more than my life's worth.. :cry:
Title: Re: warped rotors
Post by: the cyclops on March 21, 2010, 01:08:56 AM
Quote from: "jonathan jaecks"My 06' is on its third set of rotors... the first two sets each lasted less than 3k miles.  Replaced under warranty as part of a rotor recall.
Running EBC pads and recently swapped out brake lines for Spiegler braided lines (separate lines for front right and front left to eliminate the shitty crossover brake line).  It has helped, however I'd still like to swap out the rotors for full floating as soon as EBC has them available.  I'm probably going to pull the calipers and do a rebuild this summer as well...I'd love to trade up those as well but I'm taking it one component at a time.

Jonathan
06' silver

So what is this rotor recall?  I have an 06 and wonder if mine were replaced.
Title: Re: warped rotors
Post by: Timbox2 on March 21, 2010, 07:40:45 AM
Quote from: "the cyclops"So what is this rotor recall?  I have an 06 and wonder if mine were replaced.


Apparently some rotors were not heat treated properly leading to them warping, not sure it was ever a recall as such
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 21, 2010, 02:27:34 PM
There wasn't
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 21, 2010, 08:48:36 PM
I was surprised at how bad mine were, they pulse a bit - nothing major - during normal braking but it looked really bad on the brake test machine.

I'm not sure how it happened or when either.  I'm not exactly the last of the late brakers.  I do think that bolting the rotor direct to the cast wheel is asking for trouble though.

And Chris it looks like you were right about the floaters, I'll see for sure when they come tomorrow.
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 21, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
It's bolting them to the wheel that is the trouble,there's no way for the heat to dissipate as the disc is solid and the thats what warps e'm,i've had the same problem with 6 pot AP calipers and solid mounted discs on my 1100s,it's take a little while(10 years) to sort it!!!.

I've run Beringers for a long,no wear and because their floaters shed the heat within seconds.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 22, 2010, 11:32:54 AM
Rotors just arrived...  Floaters!!!  Wooo woo... :lol:

Just gotta get a replacement bolt and we're in business!

I know, you're supposed to replace them all, but I've NDT'd them and checked for thread stretch; and besides, the dealer's only got 6 in stock at £5 each :shock:
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 22, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
310 quid all in and their floaters,thats peanuts
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 22, 2010, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"310 quid all in and their floaters,thats peanuts

Cheers Chris.  EBC have 10% discounts running on their website at the moment so that helped, final total inc bolt and a tube of locking compund £321.  Re-MOT tomorrow!!

Oh, and the Triumph bolts come with the locking compund already applied, never seen that before :roll:
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 22, 2010, 09:21:30 PM
Do we get a photo!!
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Post by: ChazzyB on March 22, 2010, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"Rotors just arrived...  Floaters!!!  Wooo woo... :lol:

I always thought a floater was something rather less attractive!

I've got EBC floating disks on my Tiger too. The first set went back under warranty as they got quite badly pitted rather too quickly. Apparently they changed the steel because of the problem. However, if I wash the bike and don't dry the disks, the pads weld themselves to the disks... I think that's the pitting's cause.
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 22, 2010, 11:29:15 PM
Well there by hangs a tail,when the original pads got a little thin on my Beringers i replaced them with EBC,jeeze they were a horror for welding themselves to the discs,even engine running in gear let the clutch out wouldn't budge e'm,it happened no end of times,with one occasion being on the StMalo ferry and not being able to free them :oops: ,Carbon Lorraine was the solution :D
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 23, 2010, 05:34:00 PM
Funny you should say that, EBCs pitted the discs on by 'Bird one winter.... :roll:

Been out for a short ride to bed these new rotors in this afternoon (I'll post a pic later) the rotors now look slighty glazed around the very edge.  I was taking it really easy, maybe I should just rag them!!
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 23, 2010, 08:51:31 PM
Better late etc...

Here's the photo:

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/BixxerBob/IMAG0006.jpg)
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on March 24, 2010, 02:32:39 AM
:shock: it's soooo clean  8)  that's better.

Quick question for you Girly Guru's, does the wire wheel 885i have floater option from any makers?
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Post by: Chris Canning on March 24, 2010, 09:07:32 AM
Think you'll find the discs are all the same no matter which bike 885/995 it's the wheels that different.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 24, 2010, 10:54:13 AM
Have a look at the EBC website, they do floating conversions for both 855i and 955i.

http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/bike/def ... 00&t1=disc (http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/bike/default.asp?v=bike&part=disc&sec=Euro&make=TRIUMPH&model=0to3000&t1=disc)
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Post by: WVdyhrd on July 25, 2010, 04:14:24 AM
oh oh oh oh oh oh noob here look at the noob

what's the difference between regular and floating?
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Post by: Mustang on July 25, 2010, 03:41:31 PM
floating rotors are held to the disk hub by bobbins that let the rotor , well ...........float

a regular disc is one pc that bolts directly to the wheel

these are floaters

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/extreme%20makeover/DSC_2791.jpg)
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