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Talk => Speaking Of Bikes... => Topic started by: Bob Tosi on May 26, 2010, 06:43:42 AM

Title: Chains
Post by: Bob Tosi on May 26, 2010, 06:43:42 AM
I was checking my chain out and wanted to take it off to clean it.  I looked for the master link and couldnt find it on either side.  98 Steamer.  What the heck is going on here?
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Post by: JetdocX on May 26, 2010, 07:14:11 AM
Probably the original chain.  Is it toast?  Why bother if it's not?  Careful, Bob, you might just anger the Steamer gods, then it's unscheduled after unscheduled maintenance event ad naseum.  Fix what's broke.  Let the rest roll.
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Post by: Timbox2 on May 26, 2010, 07:51:20 AM
Master link? Your kidding aint yer. Be  glad it doesnt have one, I'd be bricking it If my Tiger had a split link chain,

Why do you need to take it off? If its really bad you probably need a new chain
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Post by: Bob Tosi on May 26, 2010, 03:56:05 PM
The chains is looking dirty so I wanted to clean it and re-lube it.  All my other bikes have had master links so the chain could be removed.

 How does one get the chain of when its time to clean it, replace it or change the sprockets?

Dumb new Tiger guy question, Sorry to all you Tiger Jedi's.
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Post by: Mustang on May 26, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"The chains is looking dirty so I wanted to clean it and re-lube it.  All my other bikes have had master links so the chain could be removed.

 How does one get the chain of when its time to clean it, replace it or change the sprockets?

Dumb new Tiger guy question, Sorry to all you Tiger Jedi's.
if all you want to do is clean it ..jack the back wheel up , centerstand if you have one , otherwise a couple of jackstands under the foot peg brackets works
(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/repairs/101_1649.jpg)
use a rag with some kerosene on it  wd 40 works good for cleaning too
hold it in your hand and make a fist around the chain
spin the rear wheel by HAND and clean the crud of the chain

there is no need to lube the chain other than with spray on lube like pj1 or chain wax
the chain is an oring chain and the rollers are lubed internally and sealed with the orings

if you want to change the chain you need a chain breaker to cut the chain or a dremel tool
and a new oring chain will come with a master link that needs to be riveted on , again you will need a special tool

Motion Pro makes about the best I have seen
this ones pretty good  about 95 bucks
(http://www.motionpro.com/images/items/08-0058.jpg)

this ones better  $135 bucks
(http://www.motionpro.com/images/items/08-0135.jpg)
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Post by: Bob Tosi on May 26, 2010, 05:03:01 PM
QuoteMotion Pro makes about the best I have seen
this ones pretty good about 95 bucks
 

this ones better $135 bucks

The wifes going to love that, new bike and I start spending money! :lol:
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Post by: Bob Tosi on May 26, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
What about those brush roller deals that have the cleaning solutions in a little tank?
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Post by: Mustang on May 26, 2010, 05:22:29 PM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"What about those brush roller deals that have the cleaning solutions in a little tank?
they won't work as well as good ol rag and kerosene ..which doesn't cost any money and you must have a can of wd 40 already on hand
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on May 26, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"What about those brush roller deals that have the cleaning solutions in a little tank?

Thought the boss was gonna have a view on spending money?? :roll:
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Post by: Timbox2 on May 26, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
Quote from: "Mustang"
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"What about those brush roller deals that have the cleaning solutions in a little tank?
they won't work as well as good ol rag and kerosene ..which doesn't cost any money and you must have a can of wd 40 already on hand

Ive often wondered what kerosene actually is, would it be what we over this  side call paraffin?
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Post by: JetdocX on May 26, 2010, 08:11:39 PM
No, kerosene is just a close relative to jet fuel.  Think cleaner diesel.

Bob, I have the Motion Pro chain tool if you want to borrow it.
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Post by: Nick Calne on May 26, 2010, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"The wifes going to love that, new bike and I start spending money! :lol:

It's a steamer, start preparing your excuses now!  :shock:
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Post by: iansoady on May 27, 2010, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: "JetdocX"No, kerosene is just a close relative to jet fuel.  Think cleaner diesel.

Actually I think it is paraffin. Wikipedia agrees with me (although that may not be a recommendation.....): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene_lamp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene_lamp)
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Post by: Bob Tosi on May 27, 2010, 04:15:12 PM
probably being overly worried about this , just trying to get on the safe side of maintenance here.........
Title: chain
Post by: jonathan jaecks on May 27, 2010, 04:32:27 PM
D.I.D. also makes a very good 530 chain tool...also in the $100 range.
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Post by: JetdocX on May 27, 2010, 06:43:13 PM
Quote from: "iansoady"
Quote from: "JetdocX"No, kerosene is just a close relative to jet fuel.  Think cleaner diesel.

Actually I think it is paraffin. Wikipedia agrees with me (although that may not be a recommendation.....): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene_lamp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene_lamp)

We're both right.
"Kerosene is widely used to power jet-engined aircraft (jet fuel) and some rockets, but is also commonly used as a heating fuel and for fire toys such as poi."

The stuff we call paraffin here is actually a heavy wax.  I think I use it on the bases of my snow skis. :lol:
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