My riding season's short as I suffer from hay fever and some related dizziness, so I have been looking forward to a ride for a week or two.
Well, I saddled up and was just pulling off the drive then there was a weird pinging noise from the bottom of the bike. I thought I better have a look before I ride off.
On inspection my swingarm has snapped at the bolt!! Through the thickest bit of the metal . Unbelievable!!
Yes, before you say it I have a torque wrench and I never over tighten - I'm kinda anal about torquing to the right figures....so what on earth has happened? Absolutely, totally gutted and in despair...
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Poo!!,
will this fit??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LOOK-GENUINE-TRIU ... 563d62f1ca (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LOOK-GENUINE-TRIUMPH-TROPHY-900-1996-REAR-SWINGARM-/370397082058?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item563d62f1ca)
Oh man, that is rotten luck especially with your short riding season. You are not the first one to have the eccentric clamp break though. There are a couple of threads here on it. Turns out the factory torque spec is way too tight for those bolts. It does not take much torque at all to tighten down a clamp of that diameter and someone at Hinckley blew it. Even a little torque on those bolts produces a lot of tension in that band. You can have it welded though; no need to buy the whole swingarm.
I rarely use a torque wrench; in fact only for head bolts. For small M/C bolts I like to tighten with a 1/4" drive ratchet held so that I'm twisting my wrist to tighten (i.e. no upper body leverage). If you want an extra measure of safety then use thread locker rather than more torque.
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what nightrunner said and the trophy swingarm is the same BTw!
That ebay swingarm will not fit onto a steamer. The most obvious thing is the missing mount point for the rear brake strut.
Commiserations on the swing arm. When I came to replace my swingarm, which broke the rear strut mount when a disc bolt came loose and slammed into the rear carrier, I was told that the it is rare for the swingarms to fail, but if they do, it is usually where yours has failed.
Quote from: "chairhead"Poo!!,
will this fit??
If mustang says so, then it does! So bid placed.... Thanks Chairhead, mustang, nightrunner...
I was pretty down about it earlier, then England lost to Germany, which didn't help at all. (well done German's btw)
But I'm feeling more buoyant now....I'm thinking this is an opportunity for some wider, general bike improvement and ad hoc farkling! You know, sort the pesky things out in a warm garage and do all the things I have been meaning to do for a while. :lol:
Quote from: "nickcalne"Quote from: "chairhead"Poo!!,
will this fit??
If mustang says so, then it does! So bid placed.... Thanks Chairhead.
Sorry, he is wrong in this case. Have a look at the right hand side of your swingarm and then look at the right arm of the swing arm on ebay. Waste your money if you like, but at least go and check.
Damn I just bid...
The brake torque arm fixing is missing! :shock:
This one is likely to fit. You will need to see the underside to confirm it will fit.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIUMPH-TROPHY-93-REAR-SWING-ARM-/150459539838?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item230816617e
This is definitely the right one, but a tad pricey. There is an option to submit best offer "Preis Vorschlagen":
http://cgi.ebay.de/Triumph-Tiger-Vergasermodell-original-Schwinge-komplett-/190386178562?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motorrad_Kraftradteile&hash=item2c53e68a02
OK, here's the plan
I'm going to re-sell the first one if I win it. Anyone wanna buy a trophy swingarm?
I'm gonna gamble on the second one. I've put a bid in.
The third one is too much! If the first and second aren't correct, I'll have to wait for another to come up.
Quote from: "CoolHandLuke"Quote from: "nickcalne"Quote from: "chairhead"Poo!!,
will this fit??
If mustang says so, then it does! So bid placed.... Thanks Chairhead.
Sorry, he is wrong in this case. Have a look at the right hand side of your swingarm and then look at the right arm of the swing arm on ebay. Waste your money if you like, but at least go and check.
yep I fu**ed up.......... forgot that in 96 the trophy got a remake to under-slung calipers instead of on top like the tigger
it would still work you would just have the caliper on the bottom of swingarm instead of on top
hopefully the shock linkage mount is the same (linkages are different).. shame that RF9rider is on his hols as his Tiger came fitted with,I think, a Trophy S/A and he could've done some measuring up...
I've got two different ones coming so I'll have a good comparison session and report what I find.
Then I'm going to going to open a shop called 'Nick's Swingarms' to supplement my meager earnings! :lol:
I just adjusted my chain on the Tigger and used the settings in my haynes manual which is 35 Nm. is this too much?
Quote from: "nickcalne"Then I'm going to going to open a shop called 'Nick's Swingarms' to supplement my meager earnings! :lol:
Tough one Nick, sorry to see that but a timely warning for me probably :shock:
No worries Mustang I didn't win the 'wrong' one! Someone came in with a very late bid.
Second bid closes in an hour or so. I'll keep an eye on it to ensure I win and let you guys know how the operation to replace goes....
Cool thing to have, Torque converter..
http://www.boltscience.com/pages/convert.htm (http://www.boltscience.com/pages/convert.htm)
I`m back from my hols........ :cry:
Did you sort the swing arm?
Yup, ended up with the cheaper one CH Luke suggested. (Thanks Buddy!) It seems identical except being silver coloured.
I'm halfway through removing the old swingarm, will complete tomorrow and compare the items. Too damn hot today!
It's been a good opportunity to look the bike over. There's some rust on exhausts, there's a few mismatched nut and bolts etc and it's due a service inc valves. It's also still nursing a few scars from last year's crash.....Going to take my time and see if I can make the bike a little better. The thing's 12 y.o so I guess you gotta expect these things but ...
One thing that did come to mind was the last people to tighten up them bolts were the garage where I bought new tyres... :evil:
Quote from: "Colonel Nikolai"I just adjusted my chain on the Tigger and used the settings in my haynes manual which is 35 Nm. is this too much?
That translates to 26 ft-lbs which seems a bit high. I have never measured it. I use a 3/8 drive ratchet, sitting behind the wheel, grip ratchet by the head (not the handle) and use wrist muscles to twist. A band clamp of that size does not need much tension to be very tight, which is why they break so easy. If I had to put a value to it, I would go 10 ft-lbs. If you are worried about it coming loose, use threadlocker.
another good tip is if you only use the short arm 8 mm allen wrench that came in the tool kit and don't use a cheater bar it will be very hard to apply enuff pressure to crack the swingarm
Just thought you'd like an update.
Swingarm now off....was a bugger of a job - so dirty!
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New swingarm is pretty much the same seemingly....but has different fixings see photo's. No harm in the difference I think though....?
Original
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New
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Side by Side
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Think I'll get a new rubber block and replace the various fixing while I'm down here....
ooh here's something to be aware of. There are two sorts of rubber chain block!
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The top one is a tiger one by the way.