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Title: Head lights acting up?
Post by: ramseybella on July 05, 2010, 04:44:21 AM
Went for a ride friday and got caught in heavy rain with my 98, well when I got home I turned the key off and lights stayed on turned the high and low beam switch off and on and then turned the key on then off that worked.

I also have driving lights wired into the high beams from the guy I bought it from, so I went on a 300+ run yesterday to Alamosa Colorado and was heading back to New Mexico at night turned on my high beams and no highs or driving lights only both low beams worked.

Took it apart today and my right low beam bulb burned out when I turned the key on, checked fuses  they are good high and low switch works because i can hear the relay clicking when I hit the switch no bad looking wires in the harness the driving light wiring looked poor so I am looking for new bulbs and will rewiring the drivers.

Who has good prices on H4 Bulbs and any hints on what could be wrong with me lights?
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Post by: oxnsox on July 05, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
Since each filiment, high - low, left - right, is controlled by a seperate relay and it seems you're losing two at a time it may help to look at the handlebar control switch.  Give it a clean, but remember it has power in there if the keys on.
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Post by: Mustang on July 05, 2010, 01:48:35 PM
actually the plastic cases on the relays suck , and in the rain they got water in them which was keeping things nice and shorted so that the relay had a closed circuit direct to battery .  it happens to steamers , have seen this same scenario a couple of times now ......once on one of my own tiggers and on others bikes

if you ride in the rain alot it would be worth replacing the relays and make sure they are sealed on the plastic case , you can use any good brand of silicone sealer to seal em up
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Post by: ramseybella on July 05, 2010, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: "Mustang"actually the plastic cases on the relays suck , and in the rain they got water in them which was keeping things nice and shorted so that the relay had a closed circuit direct to battery .  it happens to steamers , have seen this same scenario a couple of times now ......once on one of my own tiggers and on others bikes

if you ride in the rain alot it would be worth replacing the relays and make sure they are sealed on the plastic case , you can use any good brand of silicone sealer to seal em up

This was the first time in the rain got caught off guard, as far as the relays I take it Triumph is the only place to get them?


Thanks again for letting me pick your brain.
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Post by: JetdocX on July 05, 2010, 07:12:36 PM
Radio Shack has relays.  But they will be of the same "quality" as the ones you have that say Triumph on them.  Maybe a marine store if you want waterproofness?
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Post by: ramseybella on July 05, 2010, 07:31:54 PM
Quote from: "JetdocX"Radio Shack has relays.  But they will be of the same "quality" as the ones you have that say Triumph on them.  Maybe a marine store if you want waterproofness?

Cool I can seal them, thanks Jet!!
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Post by: ramseybella on July 06, 2010, 10:10:07 AM
Good old NAPA one of the Relays was bad, changed both bulbs relocated the Driving lights and now one of them is bad I am just going to replace them they are old anyway..
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Post by: oxnsox on July 06, 2010, 11:22:33 AM
Marine relays aren't waterproof....  well none that I have used have been.
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Post by: abruzzi on July 08, 2010, 01:56:37 AM
Something about New Mexico steamers headlights I think, my low beams just died yesterday.  Haven't investigated yet, but I need to fix it by Saturday (leaving for a week ride on Sunday) or else I have to take the ktm...  Any thoughts what would kill the low beams entirely, leaving only high beams?

Geof
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Post by: Mustang on July 08, 2010, 02:33:38 AM
Quote from: "abruzzi"Something about New Mexico steamers headlights I think, my low beams just died yesterday.  Haven't investigated yet, but I need to fix it by Saturday (leaving for a week ride on Sunday) or else I have to take the ktm...  Any thoughts what would kill the low beams entirely, leaving only high beams?

Geof
headlight relay .............
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Post by: ramseybella on July 08, 2010, 05:53:16 AM
Quote from: "Mustang"
Quote from: "abruzzi"Something about New Mexico steamers headlights I think, my low beams just died yesterday.  Haven't investigated yet, but I need to fix it by Saturday (leaving for a week ride on Sunday) or else I have to take the ktm...  Any thoughts what would kill the low beams entirely, leaving only high beams?

Geof
headlight relay .............

Yup!
It was not the one attached to the headlight back, it was the other one, in short if it makes no clicking when you flip the switch it's bad.

Go to <NAPA>
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 08, 2010, 09:55:26 AM
Quote from: "abruzzi"or else I have to take the ktm...  Any thoughts what would kill the low beams entirely, leaving only high beams?

Geof

  :shock: Nooo ... if you can't find a relay buy some bum ointment  :wink:
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Post by: aeronca on July 08, 2010, 02:55:09 PM
geof, check your high beam switch. when i first got mine i had the same prob. turned out the switch had corrosion inside. cleaned her up and has been happy since :thumbsup
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 09, 2010, 08:01:26 AM
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger":shock: Nooo ... if you can't find a relay buy some bum ointment  :wink:

I apologise that didn't read right, I was of course aluding to the KTM seat not being as comfortable for distances, please tell me that's what everybody thought  :oops:
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Post by: Mustang on July 09, 2010, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger":shock: Nooo ... if you can't find a relay buy some bum ointment  :wink:

I apologise that didn't read right, I was of course aluding to the KTM seat not being as comfortable for distances, please tell me that's what everybody thought  :oops:
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Post by: BruKen on July 11, 2010, 01:11:19 AM
Funny that this thread should come up now. My Hi-beam relay gave up the ghost too. One of the terminals had completely rusted through. Apart from 2 new spare bulbs I now have I had a real runaround trying to find a 4 pin relay to fit. Could only find a 5 pin of the same config. Checked it, yes 85 to 86 check, 30 to 87 check. Damn thing wouldn't work. Spent a couple of hours tracing a wiring fault until I ended back at the relay....mmmm... Turns out the pin config is different on 5 pins. Swapped the wires in the female connector around and hey presto. I'm such a Dunce :D
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