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Tiger Time => Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) => Topic started by: ramseybella on August 26, 2010, 05:38:32 AM

Title: LED Turn Signals good price and work well.
Post by: ramseybella on August 26, 2010, 05:38:32 AM
A heads up, Just installed these on my Tiger, super Bright and well made Low Profile.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Blinker- ... ccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Blinker-Triumph-America-Bonneville-Adventurer-Tiger-/280540692150?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories)
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Post by: Nimrod11 on August 27, 2010, 03:24:05 AM
Nice tip, thanks. Do they need a resistor or a new relay?

Post pics!
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Post by: ramseybella on August 27, 2010, 05:49:54 AM
Quote from: "Nimrod11"Nice tip, thanks. Do they need a resistor or a new relay?

Post pics!

I just wired them to the old lines did not change anything haven't taken it out for a ride yet, had the motor running Flash timing is faster than with the old set.
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Post by: oxnsox on August 27, 2010, 10:27:12 AM
Faster flash rate will be due to the lower current drain of the LEDs.
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Post by: Nimrod11 on August 27, 2010, 03:05:43 PM
Some models already come with a resistance compensator. I guess most don't. You would need something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Load-Res ... ccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Load-Resistor-Electronic-Module-LED-Blinker-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem43a144f814QQitemZ290468460564QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
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Post by: ramseybella on August 27, 2010, 04:59:58 PM
Check these guys out good prices>>  http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/ ... -turn.html (http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Ftail-brake-turn.html)

So if I don't install a load ressistor what will happen, Will i burn out the Leds?

This Kawasaki site has a show how resistor install> http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-6r-fo ... istor.html (http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-6r-forum/29889-led-turn-signal-load-resistor.html)
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Post by: Nimrod11 on August 27, 2010, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: "ramseybella"So if I don't install a load resistor what will happen, Will i burn out the Leds?

No, they will just flash faster, like when you have a burned out bulb. The flashing rate of the blinkers is based on the resistance of the bulbs themselves. If a bulb burns out, or you replace them with LEDs, the resistance changes and so the flash rate changes.

The LEDs will be fine. The relay that does the blinking may suffer a little, theoretically, as they are designed for a certain number of cycles and they will cycle many more times. Not that I think the life will be hugely shortened.

The site you suggest has both the resistors and another solution: to change the relay itself for an electronic one:
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/ ... ashers.htm (http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&category=CAR&Page2Disp=%2Fflashers.htm)

Nice site. I love these gadgets!! :eusa_dance I am the founder of the GFA - Gadget Freaks Anonymous!!
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Post by: ramseybella on August 30, 2010, 05:33:49 AM
Well as the saying go's I can't remember what it is at the moment but left turn signal is acting up, it will work after you stop and apply the front break right signal has been no problem.

I rewired the front thinking it was a loose wire same thing played with the rear left light wiring thinking it was a loose wire same thing, next I am thinking of reversing the wire or the lights to see if it is one of the lights.

Any  suggestions? :cry:
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Post by: rf9rider on August 30, 2010, 01:26:38 PM
Some of the led bulbs only fit it one way, try turning them round.
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Post by: Nimrod11 on August 30, 2010, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: "ramseybella"Any  suggestions? :cry:

Would very much doubt the LEDs have gone - they are very long lasting and almost impossible to burn out - unless you apply 12V directly to each individual LED. As long as you left it in its original casing, they should be OK.

As rf9rider points out, if you wire them back to front, they won't work. LED only let electrons flow in one direction, not the other like regular light bulbs.

I would guess it is the resistance problem that is making the blinker relay nuts. I would suggest you buy an inline resistor or change the relay. This last option is what I would pick as there would be no wire cutting and if you keep your relay you can always go back to the original. I like always having the chance to go back.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.
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Post by: ramseybella on August 30, 2010, 09:13:09 PM
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Quote from: "ramseybella"Any  suggestions? :cry:

Would very much doubt the LEDs have gone - they are very long lasting and almost impossible to burn out - unless you apply 12V directly to each individual LED. As long as you left it in its original casing, they should be OK.

As rf9rider points out, if you wire them back to front, they won't work. LED only let electrons flow in one direction, not the other like regular light bulbs.

I would guess it is the resistance problem that is making the blinker relay nuts. I would suggest you buy an inline resistor or change the relay. This last option is what I would pick as there would be no wire cutting and if you keep your relay you can always go back to the original. I like always having the chance to go back.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

Nothing was opened just weird how thr right set works with no issue but Left is only working after you come to a complete stop%^#(*#$^($ :shock:
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Post by: Nimrod11 on August 30, 2010, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: "ramseybella"Nothing was opened just weird how thr right set works with no issue but Left is only working after you come to a complete stop%^#(*#$^($ :shock:

 :iagree   :shock:

I guess you could try reversing the wires. LEDs don't work backwards - fact - but you never know. It may be that these lights have some "anti-dummy" circuit in them that would allow you to connect either way but this is acting up. Can't think of anything else that would make sense, other than blaming it on the Tiger's poor wiring...  :roll:
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Post by: GavD on August 30, 2010, 09:47:20 PM
I fitted something similar to my '98. The blink rate was about double, so I bought one of these and it works perfectly
http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/dual-lo ... 2442-p.asp (http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/dual-load-led-flasher-unit-flash-rate-fix-unique-led-andor-filament-bulb-technology-2442-p.asp)
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Post by: ramseybella on August 30, 2010, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: "GavD"I fitted something similar to my '98. The blink rate was about double, so I bought one of these and it works perfectly
http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/dual-lo ... 2442-p.asp (http://www.triumph-online.co.uk/dual-load-led-flasher-unit-flash-rate-fix-unique-led-andor-filament-bulb-technology-2442-p.asp)

Looks like the same lights, and I see you removed your skid plate I ride on the road 99.9% of the time I took mine off last week, but it throws up the heat on my feet now good for winter I would guess.

I will check out the relay thanks!!
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Post by: GavD on August 31, 2010, 05:02:16 PM
I've only removed the skid plate to set the bike on a block as i haven't got a centre stand and I am working on the front end.
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Post by: ramseybella on August 31, 2010, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: "GavD"I've only removed the skid plate to set the bike on a block as i haven't got a centre stand and I am working on the front end.

What company did you get the centerstand from?
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Post by: GavD on August 31, 2010, 05:36:02 PM
I haven't got a centre stand. Thats why I had to remove the skid pan to sit the engine on a block to work on the front wheel.
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Post by: ramseybella on August 31, 2010, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: "GavD"I haven't got a centre stand. Thats why I had to remove the skid pan to sit the engine on a block to work on the front wheel.

Sorry Early wakeup.. :oops:
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