It appears my rear shock snapped yesterday on the ride home from my week's trip up to MO. I thought it was riding a little low and bouncing a bit much.
It's not OEM, the PO had obviously replaced it and I do not know why or when.
Suggestions on a replacement?
so was it just supporting the weight of the bike by resting in that hole on the swing arm??? Pretty cool you were actually able to make it home with that thing broken. If it is aftermarket you can probably get it rebuilt/fixed.
The Red spring suggests it could be a Hagon, a UK company. If it is they would probably repair/rebuild, but the turn round time could be excessive you being over the pond. Has it got remote preload?
Oh Man, That Sucks..
Take some nice piccies and send them to Hagon they will know for sure and should offer you a repair. They shouldnt break like that!
Thanks, my thoughts too: Hagon, send them pics.
I wonder if the bottom bolt was over-torqued and that prevented it from rotating freely as the arm traveled....
Quote from: "tyger"Thanks, my thoughts too: Hagon, send them pics.
I wonder if the bottom bolt was over-torqued and that prevented it from rotating freely as the arm traveled....
Makes no difference it runs on a bearing.
I'd say Hagon would be more than interested to have the shock back,and while that shouldn't happen,Hagon is pretty bargain basement.
Chris, who do you recommend as a replacement?
I'd go for a Wilbers.
Because you are not able to order one with telling them your wieght or ride with a pillon or carry Luggage,so they come pretty close to spec out of the box.
I'm not saying this just because I own a set(although I do on my K1200r Sport) and if you order the very top line in spec as good as an Ohlins,but because the represent a good middle of road spec/quality/price in a lower spec.
Go for the remote preload shock,even if you do not ride with a pillion and rarely use the preload,it'll be a lot easier to sell,and there will be a lot less damage rather than faffing about with a C spanner.
ouch! a thousand bucks for Wilbers?...
Ohlins doesn't seem able to come up with a fit for Tigers.
Anybody try Works Performance? a bit cheaper than Wilbers and on my side of the big puddle (thinking support is easier, having a Triumph over here is trouble enough ;). I'm googling looking for reviews. The bad reviews seem to slightly outweight the good on Works brand.
This is odd... It appears that wilbersusa.com doesn't SELL wilbers, only YSS and hyperpro. But they will service wilbers. Some one lost his franchise license to wilbersamerica (ted porter's beemershop apparently).
I find myself not wanting wilbers, now.
Hyperpro any good? Honestly, they all look about the same to me. I read that they use a lot of the same components. Maybe it's just the age old question of was your shock/car/tv made on a monday by a hung-over employee, or on Friday by someone whose mind was on tonight? :o
Hey tyger !! Broken Shock :shock: that should never happen !!
what about this guy.......
http://www.sasquatchrider.com/index.html (http://www.sasquatchrider.com/index.html)
i think he's on here :roll: :lol:
good luck !!
KK
Someone page me?
I am a rep for HyperPro. Ordered and built to your specs. Send me an email via my website and I can quote one for you tomorrow.
But I also second the opinion of contacting Hagon and see if they will warrant that unit. Probably not, but worth a try.
I have a custom Hagon on my bike as well. Custom as in I gutted it and built it to my specs. Anyway, the lower pivot requires constant greasing. I am going to pull it this winter and install a grease zerk fitting in it so I can hit it with the grease gun.
This is not the first Hagon I have seen snap at the shaft like that due to the lower pivot seizing up.
Already done, Sasquatch!
I want a zerk on mine... It would squeak and I would shoot some aerosol grease in there to shut it up, obviously that's not enough.
My Wilbers came from the States!!
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Someone page me?
I have a custom Hagon on my bike as well. Custom as in I gutted it and built it to my specs. Anyway, the lower pivot requires constant greasing.
Does the stock require grease attention like this as well? BTW once the funds are available (well the wife releases them) I will be talking to Sasquatch about getting my Girly sorted as well.
Quote from: "jwray76"Quote from: "Sasquatch"Someone page me?
I have a custom Hagon on my bike as well. Custom as in I gutted it and built it to my specs. Anyway, the lower pivot requires constant greasing.
Does the stock require grease attention like this as well? BTW once the funds are available (well the wife releases them) I will be talking to Sasquatch about getting my Girly sorted as well.
All pivot points on a bike need routine maintenance. But it does not to be as sensitive as the Hagon.
Hagon wants to inspect it, but the email seemed to suggest it is a loss.
Sasquatch- since I have an 05 (additionally no original shock to rebuild) and the Hagon is a loss, do you have anything to work with to build me something? I filled out your form and am eagerly waiting to see what can be done since this is prime Texas riding weather that I am missing. :(
Quote from: "tyger"Hagon wants to inspect it, but the email seemed to suggest it is a loss.
Sasquatch- since I have an 05 (additionally no original shock to rebuild) and the Hagon is a loss, do you have anything to work with to build me something? I filled out your form and am eagerly waiting to see what can be done since this is prime Texas riding weather that I am missing. :(
Hi tyger,
you could try this one, might ship to US? (No connection)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Triumph-Tiger-885 ... 3cb2022854 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Triumph-Tiger-885i-955i-Original-Rear-shock-6K-mls-old-/260684523604?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3cb2022854)
Best of luck :thumbsup
Mat-tiger1
You could have the hagon repaired. Or better yet give it to me :D
John, if it's repairable I would definitely go that route for myself! At least for a spare as there is Nothing worse than being down for a long time like what I am expecting now and with good weather for riding... :( OK, obviously there are few things more worse than that, but not much!
I just tore through AR last week ahead/through the cold front. I think your roads did it to me. ;)
Coincidently, I noticed my Hagon cracking around the bottom mount on the weekend. Taking it out to give to my local suspension guy who has done some work on Hagons. He thinks he may be able to weld it. My shaft and bearing still appear to be rotating freely
Just an update, picking my shock up tomorrow after it was succesfuly welded, just in case you wanted to have a go
Hagon blows
I'm on my second one and am going to replace it with a stocker that I'll have sasquatch rebuild for me.
In fact sasquatch has my first hagon
Their bargain for a reason in that their crap
Quote from: "zombie2"Hagon blows
I'm on my second one and am going to replace it with a stocker that I'll have sasquatch rebuild for me.
In fact sasquatch has my first hagon
Their bargain for a reason in that their crap
I didnt think the OE Girly shocks could be rebuilt, sure it was sasquatch that told us that
QuoteI didnt think the OE Girly shocks could be rebuilt, sure it was sasquatch that told us that
You are correct so I'm going to look at a hyper pro after the crimbo is over
Quote from: "zombie2"QuoteI didnt think the OE Girly shocks could be rebuilt, sure it was sasquatch that told us that
You are correct so I'm going to look at a hyper pro after the crimbo is over
I can hook you up with Hyperpro as well.
My Girly is TALL now.
I didn't realize how much the hagon had made it short.
It's easy to get it up on the center stand now instead of the back breaking effort it was before to get the rear the 14 inches up from where it was. And the side stand leans it way over-- this ought to make it easier to park on inclines, I always felt like it was a little too vertical on an incline.
I ended up taking it to a guy to remove the old one and get the new one in. It took him over 10 hours of labor as the bushing or sleeve had completely seized in the swingarm, thus leading to the break. I got chewed out for that, and for running the front tire at too low a pressure (36#), he recommends at least 38 and showed be some funny wear patterns on the relatively new tires. I could swear 36# was the factory recommendation....
I tried to keep that lower bushing on the shocked oiled but I never dropped it completely out to do so.
Glad it worked out for you , but there is no way to lubricate the hagon without removing it.
What brand is your new shock??
I'm going to go with a hyper pro from sasquatch
That's what I got. No opinion of it yet except I haven't found a mounting location for the preload adjuster that I am happy with. And I'm happy with it a little taller.
The adjuster is on the left side. The hose comes across the spring to get there- not sure if the shock had to face this way or if it could turn 180...
I fiddled with it on the exhaust side and I could hide the line better but I'm afraid that side would be too hot.
How the hell can you expect a man to lube his bottom shock bolt when he puts a photo up with rust on his chain, capital offence :(
I knew I was going to get crap for that! :p
I was washing the bike after my 1600 mile trip, and I never finished the job when I discovered it was broken. After all, couldn't easily spin the back wheel on center stand when it's still on the ground.
I know, all that time waiting for delivery I should have finished the job. I just worked on other projects in disgust (made sawdust).
Sorry for dragging up this old post but I have one of these Hagon Shocks. It's curently in perfect working order (rebuilt by sasquatch and a first rate job at that).
It seems that the weak point in the lower mount is that brass bushing. I guess it tends to draw moisture / dirt / etc ... and there's no good way to keep it greased.
So here's my question. Has anyone thought to try to source a needle bearing for both mounts to eliminate the seizure problem? Are there any issues / warnings I need to know about before I go down this route?
I've added a zerk fitting to the lower mount and had a local machine shop machine a channel in the middle of the bushing for grease but I'm thinking if I can find needle bearings of the correct dimensions that might be the way to go ... what do you think?????
If you keep the bottom bearing greased it will be fine, what year is yours, my '06 model is easy to knock the pin out and re grease the bush, when I stripped mine I was surprised to find the bearing surface was the outer surface of the bush and had two small o-rings sealing it.
Quote from: "NKL"If you keep the bottom bearing greased it will be fine, what year is yours, my '06 model is easy to knock the pin out and re grease the bush, when I stripped mine I was surprised to find the bearing surface was the outer surface of the bush and had two small o-rings sealing it.
Mine is a 2000 885i. Mine is setup exactly the same. Both upper and lower mounts are brass bushings with an oring seal on either side. the upper mount has these really thin seals. One of them has snapped on me and I'm having one HECK of a time finding a replacement seal. Seems to be a .9mm thick x 18.7 mm ID seal. Has to be thin enough to slide in there and thick enough to retain the grease.
I'll post some pics of the zerk fitting mod when I get the chance. Seems to make the lower mount MUCH easier to grease.