Hi All, just bought my first Girly Tiger 955i from 2001, expecting to pick her up next weekend. By doing a bit of research online and gathering some general info, I noticed that the swing arm on most examples that i find images of online is black, whilst it seems to be aluminium on the one I bought?
I haven't actually seen the bike in real life, a good friend and motorcycle enthousiast checked her out on my behalf as she is about a 4 hour drive from me.
Any thoughts on this?
The previous owner had stripped the anodising off then.
Quote from: "Chris Canning"The previous owner had stripped the anodising off then.
Hi Chris, am I right in saying that as standard the swing arm would have been black anodised aluminium?
It's the lime green and black colour combination but that I suppose made no difference.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I would say more like charcoal gray. My 2002 swingarm is not black but it is not shiny aluminum color either.
Maybe its a swingarm from another Triumph?,
the only way ive heard to remove the anodising is polishing,
but why do that when the bikes got a black frame :?: , questions need to be asked Biglad,
good luck and let us know how you get on :wink:
Maybe I'm just suffering from pre-delivery nerves lol, the images the seller put up weren't great, I had a nother close look yesterday evening and it's just very hard to tell if the bike is just very dirty. I'll put the "panic" on hold till I go and collect, no money handed over yet so could still make a final decision once I get there. I do know that the bike has not had any "incidents" which is kinda reassuring...
Link to the ad, have a look at the image of the rhs (when on the bike);
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/motorbikes/1699822 (http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/motorbikes/1699822)
Like i said, pictures taken after a run on the back roads, just dirty maybe?
Biglad,
if im not mistaken that swingarm is black,black and dirty :lol: ,there is however a glare from the chainguard that looks to be a bit silvery-ish,
so maybe this is what you saw :roll: :lol:
agree......... looks like a stock Girly .just a crappy cell phone picture!
Cheers all, I'll give her a good tidy up when I get her and post some fresh pictures afterwards!!
Hey Biglad !! hope the Tigger's as good as the owner say's it is !! :thumbsup
this should get you up to speed with the bike !!
http://www.hermys.com/triumph/tiger/2001/ (http://www.hermys.com/triumph/tiger/2001/)
have fun !!
KK
ps Welcome to TT.com :occasion14
Quote from: "Biglad"Cheers all, I'll give her a good tidy up when I get her and post some fresh pictures afterwards!!
that thing is stock so no worries.
Thats short money on that, recession really hurting folks I guess
What part of Ireland ya in.
I'm a transplanted dub living stateside and I've got a 2001 same as yours.
Used to be lime green till I got me grubby mitts on it
Howdy Zombie, I'm in Co. Donegal. I'm collecting her tomorrow. Just to make things worse I paid nowhere near the asking price in the ad, but then I was selling my own and got the same, nowhere near my asking price. In the end I sold my BMW at silly money as I could buy the Tiger back for the same silly money, times are shitty overhere.
I was committed to a TDM at first but the whole market is on it's backside overhere and the TDM had to come from the UK, just worked out to expensive for what it was. I'm delighted that I came across the Tiger, always loved the look of those and it will carry my 6ft4" frame without hassle, and like I said, really silly money.
Quote from: "Biglad"Howdy Zombie, I'm in Co. Donegal. I'm collecting her tomorrow. Just to make things worse I paid nowhere near the asking price in the ad, but then I was selling my own and got the same, nowhere near my asking price. In the end I sold my BMW at silly money as I could buy the Tiger back for the same silly money, times are shitty overhere.
I spent a fair bit of time off the donegal coast in the early 80's , around Killybegs , rathmullan and moville.
Your Tiger is perfect for the roads around there have fun and enjoy
cheers Mick.
I left when there were no jobs and it looks like things have gone full circle.
Depends on the kind a business you're in, but things are not good in general. My "work" is currently mostly in the UK and mainland Europe which kind of suits me being Dutch, Donegal is just the place where I live at the moment, no business for us here at all at the moment. What exactely do you mean with "of the coast"?
yeah I think the Tiger is the job for around here. Roads have always been pritty poor and since the latest cold spell they got even worse...
We're leaving at 7AM tomorrow to head for Wicklow, I'm as excited as a little boy at Xmas ha ha
Can't wait to see if the fuel mods were done or not, forgot to ask, and can't wait to get my paws all over here.
Quote from: "Biglad"We're leaving at 7AM tomorrow to head for Wicklow, I'm as excited as a little boy at Xmas ha ha.........
wait till you ride it and you can't wipe the shit eating grin off your face :mrgreen:
I once owned a '93 Trophy 1200, just before they started looking like a rolling tupperware ad, man it was quick, and i loved the fact that is was a Triumph, bit quirky and different. I hope this Girly adds the back road fun to my previous experience, sure she will... :D
Quote from: "Biglad"Depends on the kind a business you're in, but things are not good in general. My "work" is currently mostly in the UK and mainland Europe which kind of suits me being Dutch, Donegal is just the place where I live at the moment, no business for us here at all at the moment. What exactely do you mean with "off the coast"?
In a big boat I was, Spent 4 years meandering the irish sea..
Good luck with the bike and if the weather is good enough , flog the thing thru the wicklow gap , love them mountain roads
Yep looks bog stock to me,Donegal!! when ever we go we always wonder what the hell everyone does to pay for all the new house over there.
When the NW200 is on,a trip is always in order to go to Carndonagh for a coffee.
Your Dutch,jeeze you lot get every where!!,I met a guy many years ago on a camp site in the SOF and we have remained great friends over the years so I've seen my fair share of Holland as he's moved about,but finally settled in Middleburg,the only problem!! he likes Laverdas :D
Well all, she's home. Bit of a shock when I got there first, previous owner was a dirty b@stard, his personal hygene was OK, but I'd say the bike has never seen a sponge or anything near it during his ownership. Scott Oilers are great, and work even better with oil in them. I'd say all the oil was stuck to the rim of the real wheel, chain guard and swing arm, the reservoir was bone dry as was the chain. The seat was lying next to the bike and there was a box with a battery in it, still to be fitted. Anyway, at least she was cold, and after he fitted the battery, one push of the button, and she was purring away, nice one. No strange noises, bit of condensation from exhaust, everything OK here.
The guy didn't even bother giving the bike a clean before we came up, there are a few bit's and pieces that need attention, but mostly she is filthy. Fairing panel thing (black) seems to push on to a lug attached to the tank (?)but won't match with the lug on the RHS...we'll see more during daylight tomorrow.
Few scrapes on the rhs hand guard and on the tank which I knew of.
A very thorough wash and degrease is on the program for this weekend and during this exercise I will be inspecting her closely. I've seen a bar-end that's hanging off, a few wires that seem to be chaving behind the ignition barrel and the ignition barrel itself has a lot of mobility for some reason.
All and all delighted with the purchase and at this money it was/is an absolute steal!!
:D
Thats good news :thumbsup
will be nice to see her onced shes cleaned,and in a decent photo :D
i hope everything is good under all the crud :wink:
Couldn't help myself and started digging a bit deaper yesterday evening. The black panel that holds the indicator has a fairing lug that connects to the tank...these didn't match up on the rhs. I now have the whole front fairing removed and there is surface corrosion everywhere, what a dirty pig, and I can tell that the subframe that holds the front fairing etc is slightly bend (standing in front of the bike the lhs is pushed back slightly), causing the fairing lug not to match up with the hole int he tank (pushed backwards about half an inch) one headlight is held in place with a cable tie etc...
She will need a lot of tlc, but I think every thing is repairable without having to replace anything major. I hope I can just about salvage everything but i think I will need a new instrument panel (black "dash" panel surrounding all the instruments etc.) as whoever installed the Oxford heated grips controls should be shot, they left a lovely crack in this panel and one of the lugs attaching to the frame has broken..
To be continued... :D
Lad...
My first Tiger was a '98 ... used. I bought from original owner. He hardly ever cleaned it. Ran great though.
When I got it home.... I pulled every panel, seat, tank, fairing and spent
17 hours cleaning every nook & cranny. Then when I got done... I could
pull parts and replace as needed without fighting the dirt/grime.
About 2 weeks later.... pristine Volcanic Red... great running bike.
Sometimes it's the 'sweat' that brings out the luster in the diamond.
You probably have a great bike... just needs TLC.
Thanks for the "wise words" TigerTrax, much appreciated.
I'm doing just that, stripping her and and giving her a top to bottom clean, polish, lube and ACF50 coating. Great way to get to know the bike and a great way to spend time when you're trying to give up the smokes...
I've located the bend in the little frame and I think it will straighten. I will have to replace the instrument panel as most of the lugs holding it on the frame are broken accept for the two top ones. I'm sure I can get one of these and re-use my own dials etc.
Whooped of the seats and other panels and a plan of attack is in the making. Charging harness is attached to the new battery so it will be kept nice and fresh.
The actual bath will have to wait a bit as temperatures have not been above freezing today...maybe tomorrow
At the risk of trying to teach gran to suck eggs Biglad, try to use leverage rather than hammers when strightening the bent frame mate. You have much more control over a lever. For instance, if youo hold the frame in a vice, then pass a bar or pipe through it then lever against the vice to exert pressure where you need it etc etc.. And try not to kink the frame tubes :wink:
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"At the risk of trying to teach gran to suck eggs Biglad, try to use leverage rather than hammers when strightening the bent frame mate. You have much more control over a lever. For instance, if youo hold the frame in a vice, then pass a bar or pipe through it then lever against the vice to exert pressure where you need it etc etc.. And try not to kink the frame tubes :wink:
Lol, nice one, but good advice all the same. Had that approach in mind, but any advice is welcome. I believe these little sub frames are like hens teeth so I'll be carefull, promise.
I will need to replace the black plastic panel that houses all the dials etc. (sorry have no part name or number list yet) as only the two top lugs are still connecting it to the subframe and the bottom ones are all broken off.
Still not sure why the ignition barrel is moving that much, there is a metal bar spring type contraption holding in it to place but there seems to be something missing somewhere...
I did manage to repair the little black fairing panel (one that carries the indicator) by glue-ing the lug back in to place with 2-component epoxy glue so that's good to go.
I also found the riders and service manual under the passenger seat with a bit of a service history and some stamps, good news!!
Any other advice or links to salvagers/parts suppliers are welcome. Sory for all the newbee gobbledygook but I'll get more professional as I go along, promise.
No worries. Regarding the ign lock, they're held in place by shear bolts (when tightened at the factory they are supposed to do up really tight and then the hex breaks off so you can't remove them except by drilling). Having said that, the shear bolts simply shaking loose is not unknown on Tiggers.
Quote from: "Biglad"Any other advice or links to salvagers/parts suppliers are welcome. Sory for all the newbee gobbledygook but I'll get more professional as I go along, promise.
theres online parts diagrams here which might help :wink:
http://www.worldoftriumph.com/section.p ... ts_locator (http://www.worldoftriumph.com/section.php/4276/1/parts_locator)
Quote from: "NeilD"Quote from: "Biglad"Any other advice or links to salvagers/parts suppliers are welcome. Sory for all the newbee gobbledygook but I'll get more professional as I go along, promise.
theres online parts diagrams here which might help :wink:
http://www.worldoftriumph.com/section.p ... ts_locator (http://www.worldoftriumph.com/section.php/4276/1/parts_locator)
Superb, just what i needed...had to take a few deep breaths and nearly started smoking again after seeing the prices for the parts, gosh...
In the image attached you cannot only wittness how negleckted she was but I've also circled two missing fairing screws, weren't there at all, and the difference in gaps between the cockpit fairing and the tank between left and right. Question, are those bit's of the cockpit fairing with holes and rubber grommets supposed to be attached to something?
Result today. After spending about 3 hours cleaning, still a good bit left to do, a mate of mine called up who works on bikes quite a bit.
After a hard look he thought the subframe was bend alright, but only very slightly, and he thought the tank was hanging down on the rhs more than anything else. We refitted the front fairing and lifted the rhs of the tank slightly and he presto, all other bits fell in to place. The bike obviously took a hit on the rhs, hence the scratches on the bottom rhs of the tank. We wedged a little piece of timber (about 10mm wide) between the tank and the horizontal frame tube and in that position everything is straight and everything fits back together.
Maybe somebody might have an idea as to what causes the tank to hang down on the rhs and how to straighten it. For now I will replace the bit of timber with some hard rubber which I will stick to the frame member. This means it will stay in place whenever the tank has to come of in the future.
To stay on story, the black anodizing is nearly gone in some places on the swingarm...future project maybe to get it redone.
I've attached an image of the piece of timber wedged in and a new "full frontal" with the fairing fitted...as well as a few others hinting at the progress made...
First, the two grommets - no, nothing fits there, I think they're just to stop the tank rubbing the fairing when putting on and taking off.
If the tank is sitting to one side, have a look to see if it's locating properly as you slide it forward onto it's mounts. I can't recall without looking (and I'm not about to start pulling the tank off tonight) but I think you may have a missing mounting rubber.
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"First, the two grommets - no, nothing fits there, I think they're just to stop the tank rubbing the fairing when putting on and taking off.
If the tank is sitting to one side, have a look to see if it's locating properly as you slide it forward onto it's mounts. I can't recall without looking (and I'm not about to start pulling the tank off tonight) but I think you may have a missing mounting rubber.
I haven't gone as far as taking of the tank yet. Still waiting on my workshop manual to arrive in the post to give me some guidance. It makes sense to me what you are suggesting as it had my head slightly wrecked. The final solution will be found with the tank off, I'm convinced about that alright.
Just had a look on the parts page. I think one of item 16 on the tank and fittings page is what you'll find gone.
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"Just had a look on the parts page. I think one of item 16 on the tank and fittings page is what you'll find gone.
I think both of those are there (picture) although a bit hard to make out in the photo. I think it's something missing underneath that allows the tank to be "low" on the rhs...
I don't think they are the grommets from the front you know are missing, I think they are the tank mounting rubbers that the tank slides onto as you push it forward and down when mounting it. I just checked in my Haynes book of lies. And I'll put a beer on the right one being missing. :wink:
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"I don't think they are the grommets from the front you know are missing, I think they are the tank mounting rubbers that the tank slides onto as you push it forward and down when mounting it. I just checked in my Haynes book of lies. And I'll put a beer on the right one being missing. :wink:
That sounds about right. Wouldn't surprise me if the previous owner left one or two bits out...let's hope that that's it. I'll owe ya a beer if you're right lol
Is it a big job in general taking of the tank? Looks quite daunting to me...
Taking off the tank is fairly straight forward.
Make sure you don't have to much petrol in the tank or it will be really heavy.
Disconnect your fuel lines and then the electrical connector for the fuel pump.
On the opposite side disconnect your fuel guage connector.
You will need to remove the battery and the battery box to get at the bottom tank bolt.
Also disconnect the main fuse holder on the side of the battery box.
Remove the bolt on the front of the tank
Then lift the tank up and out.
Check to see if you have plastic fuel connectors and if you do replace them with metal ones or they will snap on you eventually. Really , replace them and save yourself tons of grief
Quote from: "zombie2"Taking off the tank is fairly straight forward.
Make sure you don't have to much petrol in the tank or it will be really heavy.
Disconnect your fuel lines and then the electrical connector for the fuel pump.
On the opposite side disconnect your fuel guage connector.
You will need to remove the battery and the battery box to get at the bottom tank bolt.
Also disconnect the main fuse holder on the side of the battery box.
Remove the bolt on the front of the tank
Then lift the tank up and out.
Check to see if you have plastic fuel connectors and if you do replace them with metal ones or they will snap on you eventually. Really , replace them and save yourself tons of grief
I've read all about the fuel connectors, I will check in the morning if they are still the plastic variety, if so than now is the time to replace them. Do the fuel lines stay attached to the tank when removing or the bike? I know this is probably a silly question byt hey, I'm new to this.
Battery box is already out, discovered that fuse that lives in there as well.
There is very little fuel in the tank, thank god.
So all that remains is the fuel lines...
Many thanks for the heads up etc...
Edit; just read the whole "how to remove the tank sticky"...such a bloody newbee thing to ask before looking, I'll have a go tomorrow...
Cool.
Here's crash bars....
might work for you and only across the irish sea.
http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,8973 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,8973)
Cheers bud, will look in to that
You've got alot of dismanteling to do....
Pull all the front plastic off ( be careful to NOT break the end hooks off
the black portholes when you pull the turn signals.
Zombie was right... you have to pull the battery & battery holder to get to
one of the TORQUE bolts that hold the tank down. After you have have used the best 'Irish Pub' vulgarities getting that bolt out..... replace it with a HEX head and make life easier the next time!
Once you have that bolt out and the top ones removed.... get an 18" piece of 2" x 4" wood; Lift the tail of the tank slightly; Insert the wood;
reach in underneath and remove the fuel lines; Unplug the fuel pump;
Vent lines. ( Use white tape to mark everything )
From the looks of that bike.... I'd be concerned about moisture in the tank... drain it good ( look for sediment); Replace the fuel filter and vent filters.
FYI: To clean parts and electricals I use an electrical parts cleaning aerosol can... cleans things spotless and leaves no residue.
Just think.... you'll know that bike inside-out!
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"I don't think they are the grommets from the front you know are missing, I think they are the tank mounting rubbers that the tank slides onto as you push it forward and down when mounting it. I just checked in my Haynes book of lies. And I'll put a beer on the right one being missing. :wink:
This one probably:
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g132/cockneytaff/DSCF1351_1.jpg)
Just remember to disconnect the electrics first when you lift the tank,otherwise you'll be wishing you had 3 hands :D
Right, tank is off, easy with the sticky. I have metal male fittings (picture taken when tank was already out of the way, red connector to the bottom, silver on top) so recall must have been applied to this one?.
Rubber tank support "thing" is in place on both sides (picture), none the wiser so as to why the rhs of the tank is "low"...
Does anybody know what the official part no. or name is for these supports as they are a bit perished and knackered looking, will get two new ones. I'm having difficulty locating them in the parts pages, all I can find is no. 16 in the main frame components, there's nothing in the tank drawing that looks like them.
When lifting the tank off, the two very long breather hoses came out with the tank. When refitting, do i just thread them straightish down the center of the bike (they are very long).
Took picture of front sprocket too after removing a ton of old Scott Oil combined with road crud...that sprocket is shot looking yeah or is there a little life left? Was hoping to get another 2 or 3K miles out of them and get it all done during the 24K service. Rear sprocket clearly needs attention too, but again would like to leave it for a little while.
Also encountered two holes in airfilter box that are threaded, nothing in them though, are these "spare"?
As you can tell, much more cleaning to do...
That's a beer I own you then :oops:
The rubber and mount look normal, so can't imagine from here why the right side sat low. The tank basically sits on those two rubbers and is clamped down on the centre line by the front and back bolts. Unless something atop of the airbox was pushing it out of line I can't think what else could be wrong.
If you're only going to do another 2-3k, the sprockets should be ok, more important though is to inspect the chain for tight spots, stretched links, and cracked sideplates. The cracked sideplates do happen - I found several on my old 900 Trident after only about 8k. And I had looked after it. And it was genuine Triumph part... ah that might have been why.. :roll: If there's any doubt, and the chain doesn't look like it's been cared for any more than the rest of the bike, why wait? It's not that big a job and the reward in terms of smooth running are worth having.
Are you sure those fuel fittings are metal
They look like plastic ones to me, I may be wrong tho
The replacement metal ones I put on my Girly are shiny and metal and are also square
Anyhow double check cos it's important.
@ Bixxer Bob; I've had a good look at the chain after I cleaned it and there are no visible tight spots or broken links/plates. When spinning the back wheel the chain seems to run smooth over the sprockets. At this moment in time it really is down to funds. I'd rather do the brakes first, back and front as they are due and change the oil and filter. A chain and sprocket set would probably set me back another 150 Euro or so...not sure what to do.
I suppose it's the original chain and sprockets that are on the bike. The Scott Oiler would have looked after the components for the first 16K miles and the chancer I bought the bike of probably let the oil run out on it and that was it...The plates on the chain links have VM stamped on them.
Don't wory about the pint, I'll buy you one anyway!! Have you any idea what part no those rubber supports are?
@ Zombie; They are metal afaik. I've seent he same connections (red and silver) in a post or two in the sticky about tank removal. The discussion that arose there was which goes on top, red or silver, it's silver.
These might be the replacements put in by the Dealer, the ones you used are from the sticky I suppose. Somebody might enlighten us.
I must say I'm very happy with the dismanteling so far. The tank came of easy enough and it gave me plenty of room for cleaning the underneath bits. Air filter was out and seems fine, gave it a good shake and a blow ha ha and put it back.
It's not the male fittings, they were recall(those in the picture are alloy),it's the female they most certainley were not and their the hassle.
Show us a photo of tank with the female fittings
Tight spots on a normal bike are a problem,on a tiger you run it that slack anyway,all a tight spot will do is take up some of the slack :wink:
And yes just re thread the pipes back down.
Quote from: "Chris Canning"It's not the male fittings, they were recall(those in the picture are alloy),it's the female they most certainley were not and their the hassle.
Show us a photo of tank with the female fittings
Tight spots on a normal bike are a problem,on a tiger you run it that slack anyway,all a tight spot will do is take up some of the slack :wink:
And yes just re thread the pipes back down.
Hi Chris, the female fittings are plastic (picture). I should change those then yeah? Are the parts needed easy to come by in the UK?
Males are alu alright.
PM'd you about chain and sprockets on the off chance you still have the ones you were offering up for sale in November...
Yep their the ones :evil: ,they are bad Karma,if they ain't broken, probably will when you take them out.
TomParker
01256 330033
Part Number
LCD100040V
And the joke is their cheaper than genuine Triumphm plastic ones,I have a brand new pair and frankly wouldn't sell them,their a liability,mine broke while on the road,how the hell they never killed me I'll never know.
Chris, are the new parts a direct replacement for the plastic bits? I've just been reading through the sticky on the fittings mod and it looks as if I would need to transplant something from the plastic fittings to the new metal ones?
I can imagine how disasterous these parts failing whilst on the road would be...
Straight replacement,screw or dig the originals out and screw the new ones in.
Quote from: "Chris Canning"Straight replacement,screw or dig the originals out and screw the new ones in.
I'll give Tom a call tomorrow, many thanks Chris. I'll come back to you ref the C+S.
Ordered the metal fittings for the fuel tank today, thanks Chris, and ordered brake pads (front and rear), oil filter + tool and few other bit's and pieces.
Think I have a chain and numerous sprockets organized (mine actually ahs 18/46 combo on, panic over) as well.
Using the fact that the tank is removed to clean the bike thoroughly, she's starting to come round...
Quote from: "Timbox2"Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"I don't think they are the grommets from the front you know are missing, I think they are the tank mounting rubbers that the tank slides onto as you push it forward and down when mounting it. I just checked in my Haynes book of lies. And I'll put a beer on the right one being missing. :wink:
This one probably:
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g132/cockneytaff/DSCF1351_1.jpg)
Anybody been able to give these bad boys a name or locate them in the parts catalogue? Would really like to get my hands on 2 new ones...
Quote from: "NeilD"Quote from: "Biglad"Any other advice or links to salvagers/parts suppliers are welcome. Sory for all the newbee gobbledygook but I'll get more professional as I go along, promise.
theres online parts diagrams here which might help :wink:
http://www.worldoftriumph.com/section.p ... ts_locator (http://www.worldoftriumph.com/section.php/4276/1/parts_locator)
Hey Biglad !! as NeilD has said........
16 PFKL2012374 BUSH, TANK MOUNT £1.26 (€1.52)
be worth a phone call to check first !! :wink:
KK