OK, I get to pick up my 2006 955i Tiger from the shop after getting the 18K mile service done. I'm now $1200 poorer and I don't see myself ever being willing to put out that kind of cash again.
The nearest shop that will even TOUCH my Tiger is 50 miles away and is a stealer called Northern Colorado Eurosports in Loveland Colorado. $900 dollars for a service???? I also decided to let them handle the chain and sprockets change and that cost $300.
Triumph can get me back the day they build a bike with Hydraulically adjusted valves. Until that happens I'll be riding Japanese.
Look for my "for sale" add very soon on this forum.
The 06 Tiger is a wonderful bike and I have hadd a blast handing Harleys their tail lights. but the asking price for service is prohibitive.
Taking the any bike to the dealer is a bad idea. Either learn to do maintenance yourself or find a good shop that will take care of you.
:iagree you HAVE to service it yourself
Hondakawasuki dealers are no different .
and a Jap bike has no soul :shock:
Yup.
You can buy different, but dealers all charge the same. And all motorcycles need maintenance.
Will be sorry to see you go. I've ridden them all, started with Triumph ('72 OIF Tiger), and will end with Triumph (now, 955i Tiger).
They ALL needed maintenance, but the Triumph made me FEEL better after the work was done.
Cosmo
I absolutely love to hear an owner bitch about the high cost of dealership maintenance. :roll:
$900 roughly equals how many man-hours of labor?
What do you have against businesses making money?
Like all the others here have said, do the work yourself or pay someone to do it and smile when you sign the check. Oh, make sure to thank the tech who busted his ass making sure your bike was done right the first time.
And you're fooling yourself if you think a Japbike is going to cost you less to maintain, but you'll find this out soon enough.
I have to say that $900 for a small service( Which the 18k is) does seem a little excessive, Its about what Id expect for the 12 or 24 with the valve clearance check.
But the others are right about other makes, the last time I had a Jap bike serviced by a stealer was 2004, I had a Kwak ZRX1200 at the time and I let them do the 12k, stangely it was around £450, about $900, but that was 7 years ago.
$1200 :shock: ,
id love to know what they did to charge you that much,
ok $300 for the C&S,which sounds like you could have done yourself?
but decided its in the shop they can do it,most likley they charged an hours labour?,plus the initial cost of the C&S so $300 isnt bad me thinks
how many new parts(if any)were fitted,lets see a run down of the final bill
im not doubting you just interested :D
Shops need to make money. Most shops barely make enough money on the sale of a bike to make it worth selling them. They make up the difference in parts and service. I know of a local dealer to me pays $22,000 a month just to floor their Triumph bikes for sales. Where do you think that money comes from?
I charge $70/hr for my suspension services. Sure, seems like a lot. And if I billed 8 hours a day, every day, I'd be a happy boy. Not the case though. I can spend literally hours with a customer on the phone and in emails doing everything from giving bids and answering his every question, all to have him buy his stuff from somewhere else. It is part of the gig though, and I do it with a smile.
Shops also have insane overhead. Do you realize what they pay just for liability insurance? As soon as you mention "motorcycle" to an insurance sales man he starts planning the next Bentley he is going to buy with your money. Then you have the salaries of all the employees, tools, training for the mechanics, and tons of parts on the shelf that may sit there for months before they sell. It all has to be paid for.
And then top that off with the fact that America is the second most expensive country to own a business in, thank our government for that one.
If you dont want to pay, learn to turn your own wrenches. That is the bottom line. If you think it is going to be cheaper to service a Jap bike, think again. How many jap bikes have hydraulic lifters????? Very few. Very very few. And there is a reason for that. Hydraulic lifters do not like the high lifts, steep ramps and high RPM's that motorcycles have. Shims are much more reliable.
Quote from: "tazshido"OK, I get to pick up my 2006 955i Tiger from the shop after getting the 18K mile service done. I'm now $1200 poorer and I don't see myself ever being willing to put out that kind of cash again.
The nearest shop that will even TOUCH my Tiger is 50 miles away and is a stealer called Northern Colorado Eurosports in Loveland Colorado. $900 dollars for a service???? I also decided to let them handle the chain and sprockets change and that cost $300.
Triumph can get me back the day they build a bike with Hydraulically adjusted valves. Until that happens I'll be riding Japanese.
Look for my "for sale" add very soon on this forum.
The 06 Tiger is a wonderful bike and I have hadd a blast handing Harleys their tail lights. but the asking price for service is prohibitive.
My little brother lives in Cheyenne and bought his Bonneville at Loveland and felt he got treated good .
He just had a 12 k service done by them and was only charged what they quoted him , so he new what the damage to the budget was going to be , before he even left the bike .
And BTW they did it when it was scheduled and he waited for it , they were done in a couple hrs.
He was happy happy .
Dealer service aint cheap like the others have said , that's why TIGER TRIPLE is here . There are enuff people here with knowledge of the beast that a few questions will have you spinning your own wrenches in no time . Assuming you are competent enough to twirl your own tools .
I should scan in what my old 1150GSA's 3 year / 12000 mile service cost. :shock:
I'm thankful for the Tiger
If you can't do it yourself motorcycle or car ownership is expensive no matter what make, a mate of mine is a Honda mechanic and I can't believe the cost of some of the services he tells me about.
Hey tazshido !! $1200 is a lot of $$ for an 18k service.......
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... hrome=true (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.triumph.co.uk/media/enTiger955cc2001onwards.pdf&embedded=true&chrome=true)
do remember that Triumphs get serviced every 6k and most jap bikes get serviced every 4k
hope ya change yer mind about sellin her :wink:
KK
Selling the tiger and buying something else similar is only gonna cost even more.
Why is it that cars need servicing every 12000 or even more but bikes only manage 6000 at best?
High performance, wet clutch, gearbox, all in one housing sharing the same oil. It's amazing that there is any longevity at all tbh.
Harley have hydraulic valve adjusters.
Why'nt ring them up and see what a 12K service costs??
Cosmo
Quote from: "nickcalne"Selling the tiger and buying something else similar is only gonna cost even more.
Why is it that cars need servicing every 12000 or even more but bikes only manage 6000 at best?
Service interval on my Aprilia is 12,000 miles. But I do change the oil at six. :wink:
Tazshido, may I suggest that you sell the Triumph and buy a Honda ... Civic. Before flaming me, please consider the remarks made from others on this site. The Triumph is as maintenance intensive as any other motorcycle. They all require it. As Sasquatch said, the motorcycle is tuned to a much higher level than is an automobile and requires more loving care. My BMW has almost 100K miles on it and my Tiger is cresting 50K. Neither of my bikes have seen the inside of a dealership since I purchased them. Owner maintenance is one of the "perks" of motorcycle ownership. Get to know it, take care of it, and it will take care of you. Whether it's a Tiger or a Tiberon, a K1200LT or a F250, all vehicles run on gas, oil, and parts.
Japanese bikes, like their cars, require maintenance. A very good friend just took his Goldwing in for service with only 10K on it. Yup, the fork seals went out. Not covered by extended warranty. Keep in mind that all machines yet devised by man or God require periodic maintenance. Bike shops in my area (Southern Cal) all seem to charge around $80/hr, which is nothing compared to many, MANY car dealerships.
In closing, please reconsider your decision. This forum stands ready to help you as you begin doing you own maintenance on your Tiger. You may, in time, even find yourself looking forward to your maintenance time with your machine. I know this to be true...
Quote from: "AK Tiger"You may, in time, even find yourself looking forward to your maintenance time with your machine. I know this to be true...
Absolutely. There's nothing like the satisfaction of knowing that you've done something and done it properly. Even by the time you've bought a few tools and broken the odd part, you'll still be ahead financially and with a nice warm glow of achievement.
Of course, there are some people for whom changing a domestic lightbulb is a challenge - but they're few and far between.
I agree with all, I was new to spannering and bought a 1979 CBX 1000 and the cost of running that was horendous (now gone) and I mean rip off, yes Dealers/garages have to make money we all do but with a manual and a few tools you can easily service your own bike at a fraction of the cost and actually enjoy it. ( surfing the internet for oil and filters ect )
I now change oil and filter and brake pads ect.
Try it and you will love it.
BIG BILL
Ride that thing to southern Utah once a year and we'll do your service work together, you'll just have to buy the beer!!
You've only got 18K on that bike? Darn near brand new.....
Quote from: "TheMule"Ride that thing to southern Utah once a year and we'll do your service work together, you'll just have to buy the beer!!
Or Castle Rock, CO. I did all of my 12k service except for the valve check. That was a mistake. The stealer managed to fugg-up more sh*t just getting the tank on or off than you would believe!! They fixed it all but I was not happy. It was soooo bad I was actually laughing in the end that they even bother to keep that particular mechanic on staff. The dumb a@@ must not know what a torque wrench is as he just tightened everything until he broke the bolts!
I ended up talking for two months with the Triumph USA Zone manager from NJ. Now THAT just dam near put me over the top of ever wanting anything to do with Triumph again. But hey, all makes/brands/dealers have the potential of the same type of service.
There is one BMW dealer near by that seems to never have a bad word said about them and if I change brands in the future, that is the direction i would likely go. However, the thought of BMW parts/prices/quirks just keeps me with what I now know as 'comfortable'. Besides, the network on here more than makes up for the sh@tty dealer/Triumph USA if you are willing to read/learn and do yourself.
I will be doing my own valves next time and that about covers everything short of a major tear down, which I don't anticipate ever needing to do.
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Shops need to make money. Most shops barely make enough money on the sale of a bike to make it worth selling them. They make up the difference in parts and service. I know of a local dealer to me pays $22,000 a month just to floor their Triumph bikes for sales. Where do you think that money comes from?
I charge $70/hr for my suspension services. Sure, seems like a lot. And if I billed 8 hours a day, every day, I'd be a happy boy. Not the case though. I can spend literally hours with a customer on the phone and in emails doing everything from giving bids and answering his every question, all to have him buy his stuff from somewhere else. It is part of the gig though, and I do it with a smile.
Shops also have insane overhead. Do you realize what they pay just for liability insurance? As soon as you mention "motorcycle" to an insurance sales man he starts planning the next Bentley he is going to buy with your money. Then you have the salaries of all the employees, tools, training for the mechanics, and tons of parts on the shelf that may sit there for months before they sell. It all has to be paid for.
And then top that off with the fact that America is the second most expensive country to own a business in, thank our government for that one.
If you dont want to pay, learn to turn your own wrenches. That is the bottom line. If you think it is going to be cheaper to service a Jap bike, think again. How many jap bikes have hydraulic lifters????? Very few. Very very few. And there is a reason for that. Hydraulic lifters do not like the high lifts, steep ramps and high RPM's that motorcycles have. Shims are much more reliable.
Very well said, obviously by someone who knows how hard it is to own a small business, to make a payrole, to comply with government regulations, to take a skill and turn it into a business. Well done Sasq, I salute you. Being a small business owner, I know what you mean.
Quote from: "TxTiger"Quote from: "Sasquatch"Shops need to make money. Most shops barely make enough money on the sale of a bike to make it worth selling them. They make up the difference in parts and service. I know of a local dealer to me pays $22,000 a month just to floor their Triumph bikes for sales. Where do you think that money comes from?
I charge $70/hr for my suspension services. Sure, seems like a lot. And if I billed 8 hours a day, every day, I'd be a happy boy. Not the case though. I can spend literally hours with a customer on the phone and in emails doing everything from giving bids and answering his every question, all to have him buy his stuff from somewhere else. It is part of the gig though, and I do it with a smile.
Shops also have insane overhead. Do you realize what they pay just for liability insurance? As soon as you mention "motorcycle" to an insurance sales man he starts planning the next Bentley he is going to buy with your money. Then you have the salaries of all the employees, tools, training for the mechanics, and tons of parts on the shelf that may sit there for months before they sell. It all has to be paid for.
And then top that off with the fact that America is the second most expensive country to own a business in, thank our government for that one.
If you dont want to pay, learn to turn your own wrenches. That is the bottom line. If you think it is going to be cheaper to service a Jap bike, think again. How many jap bikes have hydraulic lifters????? Very few. Very very few. And there is a reason for that. Hydraulic lifters do not like the high lifts, steep ramps and high RPM's that motorcycles have. Shims are much more reliable.
Very well said, obviously by someone who knows how hard it is to own a small business, to make a payrole, to comply with government regulations, to take a skill and turn it into a business. Well done Sasq, I salute you. Being a small business owner, I know what you mean.
Ditto!
Quote from: "JetdocX"I absolutely love to hear an owner bitch about the high cost of dealership maintenance. :roll:
$900 roughly equals how many man-hours of labor?
What do you have against businesses making money?
Not a lot till this happens :shock:
http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,9023 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,9023)
and she still has a leak
I'll give them a chance to do it right and meet my expectations. If they do, I'll recommend them to my pals who don't like to or are unable to do their own wrenching. If they don't, I'll give them a chance to make it right. If they don't, they are dead to me.
I do all the work on both of my bikes, so that might tell you what I think of the present state of the motorcycle technician. There are still a few good shops out there, but if the dealership looks like a boutique, the shop is going to cost you and the work will be mediocre at best.
That's my experience so far. YMMV.
The thing with owning a 1996 Triumph Tiger in these parts is no dealership will touch it with a 10-foot pole, so I sort of have to learn to do stuff myself. I don't have a problem with a business making money though as long as the work is done properly and the people are good to deal with.
So maybe I was letting my angst at having been charged so much get to me a little. They DID do a valve clearance check and had to replace 2 shims, oil change with synthetic, full brake system flush and replacement, new plugs and a download of a custom tune for my pipes. I really do love the way this bike performs and even though I've been wanting a cruiser, I'm not sure I'm willing to give up THIS bike, It's simply that much fun.
HOWEVER,,,,,, All my friends that own Jap cruisers with hydraulic valve adjusters have never, EVER paid more than $300 for a service. So Y'all saying the japanese are just as expensive to service are full of crap.
Most of you are correct though, now that I've learned a bit about this fantastic motorcycle, I just need to buy the tools and do the maintenance myself. And so I magnanimously say to all who replied, "Cheers,,,,,,, AND screw you!" (said in jest of course)
James (tazshido)
Quote from: "tazshido"HOWEVER,,,,,, All my friends that own Jap cruisers with hydraulic valve adjusters have never, EVER paid more than $300 for a service. So Y'all saying the japanese are just as expensive to service are full of crap.
Most of you are correct though, now that I've learned a bit about this fantastic motorcycle, I just need to buy the tools and do the maintenance myself. And so I magnanimously say to all who replied, "Cheers,,,,,,, AND screw you!" (said in jest of course)
James (tazshido)
Hope it works out for you James. I know I service 5 of my bikes myself for less than many friends spend each year on chrome and tassels for their Jap crusiers...and they are limited to only the smoothest asphalt and sunniest days, but they are happy and that's all that matters in the end. Just far too limiting to me.
What we were saying is a Jap equivelant to the Tiger would be just as expensive to service, not a totally different type alltogether, a little two stroke moped is much cheeper to service as well :wink:
Glad to hear your sticking with a great bike tho' and you know it makes sense doing your maintenance yourself,
Triumphs are more expensive to service than Jap bikes. Look at the service price list at a multi-brand dealer like Fowlers in Bristol.
Triumph's make mechanics out of ordinary bikers.
One other thing to consider is the time it takes to take the thing apart to actually start wrenching on it , now consider a fully faired bike and you can see where the money goes.
Once ya get your head around the triple it is an easy bike to work on.
Quote from: "tazshido"All my friends that own Jap cruisers with hydraulic valve adjusters have never, EVER paid more than $300 for a service.
For what it's worth, cruisers are pretty much the only bikes with hydraulic lifters because their V-Twins are so low-revving. All of the modern high-revving engines use shims for valve adjustment. So switching to a Japanese bike won't help valve adjustment costs, and may actually hinder them -- for example, removing the bodywork on a V-Strom in order to get to the cylinder heads is a time-consuming procedure in itself.
--mark
I discovered recently that the Moto Guzzi MTX adventure (similar power / weight to the Tiger) has tappets!!! They need adjusting more often than shims but with the cylinder heads sticking out in the breeze like that, its not exactly hard work and you only need a spanner and a screwdriver. Yet still the owners complain....... :roll:
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"the cylinder heads sticking out in the breeze like that, its not exactly hard work and you only need a spanner and a screwdriver. :
that was also handy when they discovered the early batch of 8 Valve engines had been supplied with faulty cams/followers.. :lol:
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It's hardly a Guzzi only fault tho' eh? Without thinking too hard BMW (twice), Kawasaki, Honda etc etc...
..and the 2nd time for Guzzi after they had the same when they tried Hydraulic lifters.. :roll: :D However, when I was out in the shed the other day messing around with the Tigers alternator bolt and clutch, I was wishing I still had my Motot Guzzi..! :lol:
Quote from: "markbvt"For what it's worth, cruisers are pretty much the only bikes with hydraulic lifters because their V-Twins are so low-revving. All of the modern high-revving engines use shims for valve adjustment. So switching to a Japanese bike won't help valve adjustment costs, and may actually hinder them -- for example, removing the bodywork on a V-Strom in order to get to the cylinder heads is a time-consuming procedure in itself.
--mark
The honda CB750 nighthawk had hydraulic adjusted valves, and it was not a pushrod engine. You're right though - even with an overhead cam configuration and hydraulic, the red line is a little lower than these bikes.
I'd probably even be ok with a little less top end RPM for something with less maintenance required.
But, since I am not in that situation - I get to learn what the motor looks like on a more regular interval. On the plus side - removing the tank, inspecting everything in detail, you will be more likely to spot potential problems (if you take a little time to look) before they become big problems.... last valve check I noticed one of the tank fuel lines (from the front to the back) had deteriorated badly... wasn't leaking... yet.... so I fixed it.
Same deal with changing my own oil on a car .... take the time to inspect the front suspension, brake lines, look for other loose fasteners, check steering linkages, look for other damage or problems.
As it happens I once had a CBX750 (Similar engine to Nighthawk) with hydraulic followers, kin thing had an almost 2 stroke power band, nothing below 7k, then it wailed. I never had any probs with the valve train, but the alternator chain eat itself eventually (Common Issue).
Riders of Harley-Davidson bikes will make any and every excuse to continue to justify their choice. "It's OK to have less power, I ride American!" or something like, "I'll pay more for a Harley because it holds it's value"
Some of you sound just like that. "What do you have against shops making money?" I have nothing against a business making money, BUT look at alot of you, many of you don't take your bikes to the stealerships for service for the exact reason I'm bitching about. If the services were less expensive MORE people would be willing to let them do the work instead of tearing their bikes down in their basements over the winter. "Triumph makes mechanics out of riders." Not because they are overly maintenance intensive, but because of the confiscatory prices for the services!
Honda is doing it too, The 750 and 1100 Shadows (now out of production) had hydraulically adjusted valves, but the VTX 1300 and 1800 do not. Guess they weren't sucking enough blood out of their buyers and had to move to a more expensive maintenance schedule.
Another point is the Tiger itself, It doesn't have the power of the Speed triple or daytona, so why should it need to rev so high or have all that extra performance built in that is not used on the girley?
Look, I love this bike. It is, by far, the best motorcycle I've ever ridden. I will be doing all the maintenance on it myself from now on (except that valve clearance check). Looking at the invoice I see that I could have accomplished everything they did except for the valves and loading the tune.
I really wanted a Rocket III tour, but when I do get a cruiser, that won't be the one I buy simply because if I'm shelling out that kind of cash for a motorcycle, it needs to be (and WILL be) easily serviced in my garage.
Don't take my comments personally people, I'm bitching at the company and the stealership. Not you.
Quote from: "tazshido"Riders of Harley-Davidson bikes will make any and every excuse to continue to justify their choice. "It's OK to have less power, I ride American!" or something like, "I'll pay more for a Harley because it holds it's value"
Some of you sound just like that. "What do you have against shops making money?" I have nothing against a business making money, BUT look at alot of you, many of you don't take your bikes to the stealerships for service for the exact reason I'm bitching about. If the services were less expensive MORE people would be willing to let them do the work instead of tearing their bikes down in their basements over the winter. "Triumph makes mechanics out of riders." Not because they are overly maintenance intensive, but because of the confiscatory prices for the services!
Honda is doing it too, The 750 and 1100 Shadows (now out of production) had hydraulically adjusted valves, but the VTX 1300 and 1800 do not. Guess they weren't sucking enough blood out of their buyers and had to move to a more expensive maintenance schedule.
Another point is the Tiger itself, It doesn't have the power of the Speed triple or daytona, so why should it need to rev so high or have all that extra performance built in that is not used on the girley?
Look, I love this bike. It is, by far, the best motorcycle I've ever ridden. I will be doing all the maintenance on it myself from now on (except that valve clearance check). Looking at the invoice I see that I could have accomplished everything they did except for the valves and loading the tune.
I really wanted a Rocket III tour, but when I do get a cruiser, that won't be the one I buy simply because if I'm shelling out that kind of cash for a motorcycle, it needs to be (and WILL be) easily serviced in my garage.
Don't take my comments personally people, I'm bitching at the company and the stealership. Not you.
please .....go buy a cruiser and let us know how that works out for ya ..........
I can find good and bad in a sides of this discussion. One thing I do believe I read between the lines is that most comments reflect that we don't want to see you sell the bike because we know you will miss it more than you realise, I'm not getting into the cruiser thing again, it's your choice, got to scratch if it itches.
Personally, and don'take this the wrong way please, if I had just paid for all that work I'd be out there riding the rubber off it to enjoy my hard earned dosh and thinking it'll be another X k miles before it needs doing again.
Whatever you decide please stay in touch as you have experiences and opinions to share like everyone else here.
Quote from: "Sin_Tiger"I can find good and bad in a sides of this discussion.
Whatever you decide please stay in touch as you have experiences and opinions to share like everyone else here.
:bowdown Well said Sin_Tiger, could not have said it better myself...... :bowdown
Riding a bike is about enjoying the ride... it really doesn't matter how you do it, or what you do it on.
As long as it puts a smile on ya dial and makes you appreciate how damn lucky we all are to be able to have the options :thumbsup
I have been in the bike trade one way or another all my working life and I remember when the Honda variable valve timing was fitted to one of thier bikes honda said it takes 6 hours to find and service this set up, and this was in the '90s. Let alone the rest of the service.
Jap bikes have got far more complicated since then, look at a goldwing!!!
Triumphs have thier own wierd ways but evolving all the time.
Just study a bit about wrenching and get the tools required (not many) surf this site and service costs can be down to materials only. Once practiced in even removing the tank a few times it will give a boost in confidence to explore even more. At least when you do it yourself you know the job is done.
What a Bummer. I'd be pissed also. That dealer ripped you good. The 18,000 mi check is a 'tweener' .... I think he did the 600, 12,000, and 18,000 mi all at once a nd double charged you for everything!
I would audit the bill very closely. ( then piss on it ). Get it out of your system... and forge ahead.
The Tiger is not a finicky bike. Rock solid motor & tranny; The brakes, the suspension, the alternater, and seat are a POS. I have an '06 also and for
several years have been convinced they 'threw it together with leftover parts because they were coming out with the 1050. I honestly think the '06 was intended to be the 1050 but wasn't quite ready so they went back to the '05 ... slapped on the 1050 heads and called it an '06.
In fact... look at the maintenance / service manuals and you will see most stop at 2005 . . . WTF !
SO.... where does this leave you? You should be getting 42-46 mpg consistently at 70 mph. ( mountains maybe different )If you are doing that and the bike runs strong... you are in good shape. The other stuff... do it yourself or find a Tiger rider who can help... and 'gitrdun'. Ride that bitch til she screams 'one-more-time' !
There may be SOME good TRIUMPH dealers out there... but few and far between. Stop in the Triumph dealer in Denver.... I think he has a good reputation. Keep in mind... Triumph has played games with dealers over the past several years and dumped several. In fact, Triumph is making some big moves at the dealer level. We may have abig surprise in our area.
I like.... and bitch about my '06.... but it's a good bike. It serves me well.
I treat it right and it returns the favor. I've done 1200 mile days, ridden goat trails for miles in WY, and run it thru the passes in CO 2-up without a hiccup. Treat it right... you'll be OK.
The 06 has the 955 head It uses the 1050 cases which makes the plumbing a lot neater.
I wonder what Triumph is doing. They just canned our local, and very good, Triumph dealer. We believe it is because they also share the floor with BMW.
Wish they'd can our local dealer (not MCS by the way) these guys have Guzzi, Aprillia, MV Augusta and just about anything else they think might sell Honda DN01 anybody? They don't know a Bonnie from their bollocks :evil:
"Personally, and don'take this the wrong way please, if I had just paid for all that work I'd be out there riding the rubber off it to enjoy my hard earned dosh and thinking it'll be another X k miles before it needs doing again." Quote from Sin_tiger
I find that I agree and I have been doing just that. Riding to work and every other chance I get. Now that it is riding season, I have gotten back into the habit of STOMPING harleys into the pavement and laughing in their faces. GOD! what a bike. all this comfort AND the performance to show the world my,,,, um ,,, Tail lights. What the hell, If I have to become a mechanic or pay that much to own the best bike in the world, SO FREAKING BE IT!!!!
Quote from: "tazshido"I find that I agree and I have been doing just that. Riding to work and every other chance I get. Now that it is riding season, I have gotten back into the habit of STOMPING harleys into the pavement and laughing in their faces. GOD! what a bike. all this comfort AND the performance to show the world my,,,, um ,,, Tail lights. What the hell, If I have to become a mechanic or pay that much to own the best bike in the world, SO FREAKING BE IT!!!!
ATTTABOY! :lol:
I did a valve clearance check for the first time on two 90's triumphs this winter. On the first one, I screwed up one of my cam caps. Mustang fixed it for me. The second one went like a walk in the park. I now feel like I can do this every winter and not have a problem. For that it was all worth it.
And the bike with 45k miles on it (my 96 Sprint) needed 2 shims changed by one setting. The Tiger, at 31k miles was PERFECT.
Depending on where you go, that's a $300-700 service PER BIKE. And you only have to learn it once. Totally worth it. Surprised you didn't try to do it on your own.