hi...or should I say "cheerio"?
been lusting after a Tiger since they first appeared a decade ago...bought a new 1150RT in 02 instead...to replace an 81 GS750EX...and that itch still ain't quite scratched...test rode an 04 Tiger this past summer, and spotted the BRG...now I'm in love...with Attila the Hun, otherwise answers to mz. modre...
the shop carried BMW & Triumph, and didn't offer me squat on a trade...having been raised by Depression era parents, and inherited some of their bad habits, i can't bring myself to take that much of a loss...so here I sit...drooling...lusting...and licking the screen with teary wanton eyes.
BMW guys generally strike me as pompous, and from reading a few threads on this site, have come to believe the Triumph guys...Tiger guys in particular not only suck the bugs thru their teeth, but relish the crunch, and the after taste as well 1/2 hour later with the burp.
I had a 70 Bonneville, and a 66 T100C years ago, and still have the 68 tooth rear sprocket on my wall...I don't polish it or anything, but it sits there as a fond reminder of days gone by.
just wanted to say "hello"...and maybe "duck" should the adrenline run wild, my sense of humor get a little wide...and my toothed deathgrip slip off my tongue...here in SW Pa. USA whilst winter settles in.
...oh...I could slip on the Gerbings and brave the elements in true independant colonial style...but that deer I hit in Sept 02 took with it part of my soul...a small part perhaps, but significant none-the-less.
tho I'm not a current Tiger guy, I feel it in my future...and hope you all will make allowances... before I have to post oversized BMW pictures and half heartedly rave unbecomingly.
I'm in the same boat, modre.
I have a small stable of neat bikes; CBX, CB400F, GTS, and an '02 Daytona.
I have been riding for many a year, and have come to the realization I need something different. I've tried the Buells, Ducatis, and even Moto Guzzi, but I'm selling my Daytona, and as soon as the check clears, I'm off to the Triumph dealer - again. This time for a new Tiger.
I've ridden the rest, and just can't get past the 955i engine - it simply overwhelms the competition.
I will use the Tiger for touring, mostly. I already have plans for Canada and Mexico. I've Ironbutted' before on sportbikes, and am looking forward to a somewhat more comfy long-distance steed.
Cheers!
Welcome Modre! I absolutely love riding my 02' 955i Tiger - it's the kind of tool that'll do anything you ask of it, anytime of the day, anywhere. I love it. it's an extension of my personality, rather than a motorcycle. It's beautiful, practical, fun and powerful. It's only a matter of time until that BRG is in your garage, you can't resist forever. 8)
Wow Modre...sounds like nothing but a Tiger will cure you.
You must get one. Welcome, anyway.
You will be assimilated. To resist is futile. :wink:
Bob
let's see here...84 views, and 4 replies of hesitant welcome
...that's a shade under 5%
...I could have a field day provoking this group...
to the 5% ...thank you.
perhaps we should stoke the fire a bit...
here kitty kitty kitty....come to papa... :P
PROVOKING THIS GROUP???
Come on in.
Some of us are more easily provoked than others.
To provoke me, all you've got to do is say the 1150GS is a better bike than the Tiger.
Quote from: "Brock"PROVOKING THIS GROUP???
Come on in.
Some of us are more easily provoked than others.
To provoke me, all you've got to do is say the 1150GS is a better bike than the Tiger.
no, but the 1200 is :shock:
Here we go again.
I haven't ridden the 12 yet.
So you aint going to get me on that one.
Quote from: "Brock"Here we go again.
I haven't ridden the 12 yet.
So you aint going to get me on that one.
I havn't either; but you asked - so I was just complying ;^)
I am definatley a Tiger fan and have no intentions of letting mine go
Truth is I have no doubt the 1200 is a level or two more advanced then the Tiger in terms of technology and engineering etc. but I'm happy with my Tiger and the money I saved allowed me to buy a real dirt bike (KTM 250 EXC) to satisfy my off road riding desires.
and the Tiger has way more style and visual appeal then any of the BMW trailies and no one can argue that 8)
Here we go again:
I've ridden the 1150GS and the 1200GS. When I bought my Tiger it was because it was better (for my needs) than the 1150GS. When they brought out the 1200GS I took a test ride for a comparison, and had that been available when I was buying I would have had one instead of the Tiger.
I know the price differential is great, but I run a bike instead of a car, and the 1200GS is still way below the price of the car that I'd probably have if I wasn't into bikes, so is within my sensible price range. At the end of the day, a bike that suits my needs 5% better than the opposition is worth 50% more on price to me.
It's a personal thing, they don't allow you to buy financial services without looking at your attitudes to factors such as risk, growth, security etc. why should we buy bikes without factoring in our own personal circumstances and attitudes.
The Tiger is a great bike, but the new cast wheels look awful cheap and nasty (IMHO).
Cheers,
Shadow.
>To provoke me, all you've got to do is say the 1150GS is a better bike than the Tiger.<
better?
what does "better" mean?
a "better" is one who places a "bet" and holds hope for an improved position as a result...could be an elevation in status...which is a social illusion...could be a less complicated future...until fate rears it's ugly head to level the playing field....or perhaps it could be as worthless as a personial testimonial based on predjudice that re-enforces someone's boast of superiority of expertise in some specific field.
is a BMW "better" than a Triumph?
that answer would probably depend on whether you ask a Kraut or a Brit.
coming from the Kraut side, I can tell you I've been hearing rumo(u)rs of final drive bearing failures at an alarming rate...and I have first hand knowledge and experiance with a most annoying "surge" due to a haphazard fuel control system...as you will come to appreciate, I'm a straight shooter...and am not seduced by any zealous brand/religious affiliation. if it walks like a duck...yada yada yada...that said, it's still a lotta bike...at an inflated price.
the beemer boxer is an interesting scooter with a long history and respected reputation...they tried to evolve the brand with the K bikes and discontinue the R 1923 philosophy, but the reputation and following insisted they continue to fill that demand...much like the VW Bug, until McPherson struts and FI just made it a cartoon of itself by 1980.
Like-wise, Triumph's new generation of bikes is still shackled with the Bonneville line (which I admit also interests me from a nostalgic/styling point of view)...but having been run out of the business by Jappers 20 years ago, at least the folks who bought the Triumph name sat out the dance and picked up the jappers lessons, then (in my estimation) re-entered the market with an interesting serious offering.
across the board, HD is stuck to the Hogs (1936)/Sportsters(1957), BMW is stuck to the Boxer(1923), and Triumph is stuck to the Unit Twins (1950's). if you want to compare apples to apples (in diverse target markets) on state of the art bikes, you have to compare the V-Rod, the new Triumphs, and the BMW K bikes...to compare a GS with a Tiger really isn't fair on one level. compare a GS to a Bonneville...see what I mean...you can't.
I'll always have a problem with philosophies that come from a preconceived conclusion.
crossing the US...give me the BMW RT or LT, or Goldwing...cause I've been there and I'm a total woosie sissy...in dirt, give me something close to a dirt bike. you can't saddle any pig and say "fly" and expect much.
The Tiger seems to be closer to my conception of a fun bike
the GS seems to be closer to an unfaired continent crosser.
where do I ride mostly? around the block...up the street, over the hill...then sneak off into the dirt for a marley. Do you need a specific bike for that?...naw...just some nerve.
better? GS or Tiger? you pays yo money and you takes yo chances either way. which "dual sport" would I personally buy with my hard won rupples? The Krauts or Japs got me on the road side, but they lost the Big One due to 10 # of head in a 5# hat after all, didn't they? why would I want to wedge 3' of scooter thru 2' trees?...now if they come out with a K dirt bike...we'll see. HD?...I can't stand the posers...bandana boys in full regalia at a kickstand rally...polishing and looking down that extra-long nose...not for me.
I think you Brits have my heart on way-too-heavy-over-powered-pricey-pretend dirt bikes for everyday close to home road use...but I don't think "better" is in the equation...more towards the "passion" side...and emotion has no place in the world of logic.
Modre;
Nice rant.
All I've got to say about the Tiger vs. GS is as follows: REAR WHEEL BEARING FAILURE at SPEED, and $5000 more. As for which is better in the dirt? Neither. That is what KTM EXCs, Husaberg, Husquvarna, Honda 450FX, Suzuki 400 DRZe, Yamaha WR450 are made for. I love my Tiger as a touring bike that will handle dirt roads, dirt highways, etc., at speed.
I've had two BMW products in my life: 735i and a 325IX. After I unloaded the IX I swore I'd never own another BMW, tow or four wheels. Too expensive going in, way to expensive along the way. Hey, am not some friggin rich guy that needs a Roundel to feel good about myself, so I stay within my limits money wise and stay out of the overpriced service shop.
Hi Gents
I don't normally get involved in the Tiger-GS thing for me it's horse's for courses,if i only owned one bike and rode it all year i'd buy a GS, cost wouldn't come into it, because i can afford one,their practical,piss easy to clean,and have a much better finish than the Tiger BUT,i don't ride a bike all year(i did for 8 years) and whats more important is the fun factor and my Tiger is way better it's as simple as that.
For you newer guys who wonder about my BM credentials!!! I've owned an 1100s for nearly five years,Ohilins,Dymags,C/F panels,AP sixpots brakes and disc's,just about every go faster gizmo you can put on and hardley a nut and bolt thats not titainium at a cost of over 12 grand thats Sterling not Dollars and it's no more fun to ride than my Tiger.
One last thing i see there was a posting about Traveling distance,i guess i've had 40 maybe 50 bikes not one of e'm could hold a candle to my 955 for covering ground and thats two up,I (we) still smile about our 1050 miles in 16 hours last year with a ferry journey included,and still felt good enough for a cuppa and watched a program on the TV when we got home.
Chris
Well, modre...there was I, thinking I was already well educated. But apparently not. Thanks for letting us know what "better" means. Unfortunately the Dictionary has a different definition though;
"...of a more excellent or desirable kind..."
Seems to fit the Tiger in my opinion.
I'm all for provocative comments (...tending or intended to arouse anger...") but please lets keep the posts nice and easy to understand. Stuff like this makes my head hurt.
And by the way..."Kraut" is ever so close to being offensive. Reminds me of old John Wayne movies where all the Germans are nasty and he wins the war all on his own.
Brock...et al...my apologies if you found that offensive.
my surname is Modery...ancestry is around Mannheim/Phorzheim/Alsace Lorraine.
...mom was a Koerner...don't know their specfic area of origin.
I use the term "Kraut" in the familar sense.
my apologies for being Lenny Bruce-like in a world of deeply entrenched political and/or religious predjudice, and I trust in person with the benefit of visual perception and body english (can I say that?) we wouldn't have this same misunderstanding...sometimes I just forget where I am.
...your jumping to the "John Wayne" reference speaks volumes tho...doesn't it?
my purpose is two-fold.
1. initiate communication leading to understanding thru the diversities
2. break down every prejudiced wall of ignorance and small mindedness I run across in my shortening life.
as far as "all Germans are bad", unlike popular conception, I'm actually quite impressed with 1930 Germany turning around a war loss and depression into a world "threatening" power in 8 short years...I can't recall another similar event in all of recorded history.
>there was I, thinking I was already well educated. But apparently not.<
would you like to talk about that now?...or are you comfortably on top of things... in your mind?
perhaps I should re-evaluate my participation on this site...I certainly wouldn't want to twist any arms...or make your head hurt...but there's so much more to offer... thanks for the opportunity.
Modrey;
This is a website for those of us interested in the Triumph Tiger motorcycle. If you want to talk to your mensa pals, I'm sure they have their own website where you can all mentally jerk each other off with your superior brains and wit. We talk about riding motorcycles and mechanical issues here.
By the way, some of us are not as dumb as you think. And even if you are some brilliant wizard compared to the rest of the madding crowd, who cares?
Well I'm an Irishman in America riding a british bike and I even like a cuppa tea. (Ironic huh?)
I own a Tiger cos it suits me and my style of riding , I love the 955i motor and I can take the piss outta me mates on sport bikes when I flog them in the twisties.
Me bike is different especially matt black with skulls and it works for me.
I have owned numerous bikes over the years and even worked as a bike courier in dublin and I have long ago given up comparing myself or my bike to others .
It's very simple after over 2 yrs with me tiger I am still very enamoured with the whole experience so much so that I am riding to alaska next spring from cape cod with the blessing of her indoors and I'm doing it on me tiger. nicely sorted
If it feels good do it and if it doesn't then don't and I think Modrey you are overthinking the whole motorbike thing
Our learned friend seems to have buggered off...
hehe; well I feel kind of bad about how this went since I kind of egged him on (well, my egging was directed at Brock actually ;))
ah well
Newmanr19,yuh trouble maker! :D
I couldn't quite get the jist of what he was saying anyway. :roll:
Oh well I will just enjoy ridin my
motorsickle! Got to love them Tigers,and I do!
QuoteOur learned friend seems to have buggered off...
Ats right Brock.
It seems that old professor Modrey has not shown his writing skills as of late. Did anybody notice that he filled out nothing in his profile? Does he think that he will be more mysterious this way; or is he just a coward?
Patrick, I've also not filled in my profile. Nothing to do with trying to appear mysterious, nor with cowardice - I simply haven't found the time to do so because I'm too busy riding my bike or working.
Let's cut the guy some slack! He's new to this forum, and got wound up by someone who is more established, he tried to respond, and yes, his response was unintelligible waffle to most (or all) of us.
Why not get off his case, let him get settled and see if he mellow out when he is a bit more comfortable, rather than play the playground bully and gloat that you seem to have driven him away!
Cheers,
Shadow.
Shadow;
Nope, not trying to bully anybody. I'd just expect honest discourse out of our good chap Modrey. It seems that he is playing up the hyper-intellectual role here in his two extensive posts. That I find to be quite tiresome, and it is not impressive to me. My mistake for bringing in my personal preferences that are forged in the world of concrete and steel high rise construction. I'll cut him miles of slack in exchange for the real slim shady. And by the way you do have info in you profile (UK location) which is greatly appreciated.
BTW - I love my Tiger! Also, my Austin buddy Duane and I are heading down to Copper Canyon this winter in mid Feb. Anybody else going down to Old Mexico any time soon?
Morning Patrick, Thanks for the reply. Perhaps my post was a bit harsh yesterday, but for all his long winded postings, Modre doesn't seem to have said or done anything to deserve the ridicule and gloating that was going on. After posting, I went and checked my profile, because there was no intention of hiding anything, simply the presures of work hadn't allowed me time to fill it in properly before. That's probably what happened with Modre.
I firmly believe that a forum like this can only really work if it is open to all to post their views (as long as they are reasonable). Maybe Modre normally talks like that? or perhaps he was a nervous newbie running off at the mouth because he feels threatened, perhaps he was trying to out clever the clever dicks? either way, his posts weren't unreasonable (racist etc.) and I'd like to see him given the chance to settle in.
I don't know if he's abandoned this forum, but hope he returns and has another go. If you find his posts too long why not do as I do - skim through them looking for anything that makes sense and when you get bored with it move on to the next posting.
Enjoy the Copper Canyon trip, I wish i could come too.
All the best,
Shadow.
I also don't see the need for the reaction to Modre. If you don't like his post style, then don't respond. he did not do anything wrong. Anyway, I think he's gone now. Shame really, any new members to the Tiger community is always welcome.
Lets put all this behind us and look forward to many happy postings from all Tiger lovers ,be them owners ,undecided or just plain curious.
"Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough" :lol: :lol: :lol: .
By the Modre ....... you still interested in a tiger or have the beemer frat welcomed you with open arms thats why you might of dropped us like hot dog shit. :lol:
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Lets put all this behind us and look forward to many happy postings from all Tiger lovers ,be them owners ,undecided or just plain curious.
I stand corrected and will earnestly try to be less of a mean ogre in the future.
Shadow; FYI you could fly into San Antonio, Texas and rent a GS 1150 at the BMW rental place. From San Antonio it is only a few hours to the Border at Laredo. Once you cross into Nuevo Laredo the outback country of Old Mexico is less than a days ride to the west. Not sure if you can take the rental southside of the Border, however. If not the Colorado Rockies are about two days of riding out of San Antonio.
You're all gentlemen, and I'm sure Modre will appreciate what you've said about him. Maybe even come back when he's had the balls to actually leave the BMW fold and buy a Tiger. I wouldn't go so far as to feel sorry for him though. I think we need to keep a sense of honesty here, and if someone behaves like an arsehole, we should tell them. I've been shot down myself before, just for voicing my opinion, and that's the way we should be...honest with one another. Let's just be honest...the guy talked complete and utter bollocks. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
I'll second BP.
Chris
Quote from: "Brock"...the guy talked complete and utter bollocks...
But I'm fluent in total bollocks and I didn't understand it either. :? :? :?
QuoteLet's just be honest...the guy talked complete and utter bollocks.
Not sure what "bollocks" is in the UK english language, But I'll go out on the thin branches here and assume that it is similar to "horseshit " or "bullshit"?
Yes mate...that's pretty close.
:D :arrow: :?: :arrow: :twisted: :arrow: :( ](*,) :-({|= :D/
:) Just wanted to say welcome and mention...The tiger has made my
biking an adventure. I sold my 01 Bonnie after 3 years , a good bike but limited,
I bought an 05 Tiger....IMO
the most powerful bike I've owned
the most comfortable bike I've owned
the most multi purpose bike I've owned
and my wife loves the trunk and luggage and the ride.
It's different, I respect it's size, and it's always waiting for the adventure to ride off into the sunset,or to another state, or another country..
All's I gotta do is throw a leg over...
Dennis
Tennessee
Well, I thought I would chime in on this subject. I have had three Triumphs now, a 955 Sprint, 1200 Trophy and now a 05 Tiger. In between the Trophy and the Tiger I owned a R1150RT and replaced it with a K1200LT. I currently own the 05 Tiger and the K1200LT. I have enjoyed all the bikes, but I was always searching for something more suitable for my needs. The Sprint was a great bike, but the ergos sucked for long distance riding that I very much enjoy. I meant to replace the Sprint with the Trophy, but I never got around to selling the Sprint so thus started my two bike ownership. I could never get comfortable on the Trophy, though I really liked that 1200 motor. Several of my riding friends rode R1100RTs and I had opportunity to ride them, so I sold the Trophy and bought an 03 R1150RT. I liked everthing about the bike except the motor. It just drove me nuts with its surge and lack of power I had become accustomed to with my Triumph bikes. I traded the RT for the LT and its smooth four cylinder motor. I was also in search of a bike that my wife would take an interest in riding on and the LT has a massive pillion seat. There I was looking at two bikes, both street machines. I kept thinking it would be nice to have a dual sport, so I sold the Sprint and purchased the Tiger.
Surprisingly, now that I have the Tiger, I think I have found the all in one bike I was looking for all along. The ergos feel much like the RT but with much more power. It is smooth power. The bike handles great. The new gel foam seats are the most comfortable seats I have sat on, car or bike. The Triumph hardbags are some of the best in the business, for street bags. They are much better than BMW's hardbags, bigger and easier to operate.
I think the only thing left to do with the Tiger is to fit a bigger screen for winter and long distance riding, otherwise it suits me just fine. I have fitted a Triumph Tiger tankbag, a Triumph topbox and a Garmin Street Pilot 2610 GPS. I will be adding crash bars for a Christmas present from my wife. I will also add a Throttlemeister and maybe heated grips. Oh yeah, I also installed an Autocom system with connection for my FRS radio and cell phone.
If it were not for my wife, I would sell the LT right now and invest the money in my 1963 Corvette.
Mike...like you, I discovered my soulmate. Only it happened a couple of years ago. Now I'm on my second one. Aint they brilliant? Well? aint they?
Quote from: "modre":D :arrow: :?: :arrow: :twisted: :arrow: :( ](*,) :-({|= :D/
Welcome back Modre!
Bock
Yep, everytime I ride my Tiger I start talking about what a fantastic bike I have. Never before has any bike had this kind of effect on me.
>By the Modre ....... you still interested in a tiger or have the beemer frat welcomed you with open arms thats why you might of dropped us like hot dog shit. <
don't care much for the Bee-mo-philes I've run across.. HD poser folks in dress code, squids, or similar...no, I'm afraid I'm a Tiger guy by nature...and I haven't dropped any shit a t'all...just let the world turn a few when folks go foul.
still winter here, and minimal riding...been pulling the trans off my RT nebbing around the splines and such...then did the brother's S after...still looking at the Tiger bike from afar...I'm sure there's one in my future when it makes sense to do so.
Well I 've just read this entire thread, reminded me of a rollercoaster which eventually comes back to where it started.
Welcome to the site, you won't regret buying a Tiger.
that was fun...not.
yes, I always talk like that...my appologies for the incomprehension...I'll try to use smaller words.
tho I've liked the Tiger since I first saw it in the early-mid 90s, I've swayed away from a purchase...even the appealing $9,300 price at the Chattenooga store.
reason:
1. RT serves the purpose on the road better
2. Dealers won't "deal"/neither will I
3. dirt jones is honestly better suited to a smaller, lighter mount
thus...the Tiger must remain another fanciful whimsy unrequited
now as far as some of the harsh/rude responses...I have a saying:
"no sense to dump on anyone, because everyone is already condemned to be who and what they are...and tht's enough punishment already"
shame it didn't click any better than that...we might have had a couple worthwhile moments and shared some knowledge and/or wisdom.
Fine' no Coda
Cheers.
Not many come back, over a year after a thread goes inactive, to pick it back up (presumably to have the last word?).
So, here goes:
Who cares?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Agreed! Nor me!
The whole Beemer thing leaves me cold. :cry:
I don't think I'd go on to a Beemer forum to tell all I've got a Tiger and the Beemer won't do what I want the bike for so I'll keep my Tiger? Seems a little futile to me, but hey, I'm from Scotland, so maybe it's a cultural issue? :wink:
Everyone to their own I say, and this thread seems to have stirred up plenty of enthusiasm if nothing else!
I'm still lovin my Tiger, and that's all that matters to me :twisted:
Hi guys,
Well I've actually enjoyed parts of this thread, some of the subjects touched on interest me for example:
The whole is the Gs/Tiger a real dirt bike undercurrent. Surely the story run in the ADV site about the cross country Harleys in the 50s settled that one? Choose the bike, ride it where and when you like consistent with your skill/experience/access to a rescue helicopter and enjoy! I admire the guys like mudhen who offroad their tigers but I respect those Harley guys more!
The numerous posts suggesting that ownership of a particular brand of bike gets you membership of a particular attitude or culture? Yeah well both BMW and Harley like pushing the lifestyle barrow and why not? Its a great way of seperating us from our hard earned over and above the purchase price of the machine and the crazy servicing costs ( at least here in Oz). Surely opting in or out of this is optional? I've owned German/Italian/Japper and British along the way, probably will do again if a particular bike takes my fancy. Mmmmm Desmidecii replica.......
Finally, the continual attempts to marry logic and emotion on the subject of motorcycle ownership. I'm not going to bag anyone for that, its kind of fun and I do it myself. But I ride because I tried it and fell in love. Ditto for my Tigger ownership.
Well said ! we ride the Tiger it's fun and we like it. What more is there to say. :D :D :D :D :D