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Title: Temperamental fuel gauge
Post by: Milligan on May 25, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
Here goes with my first proper post, hope it makes sense.
I noticed on a ride that my fuel gauge was not working (2001 955i) It came back on after a couple of stops but only for a few minutes. With my limited technical ability I checked connections into the gauge and the sensor at the side of the tank and sprayed with contact cleaner, no joy except for lights on the dash.
Took it to a garage and it appears the gauge works sometimes, resistances checked and appear to be ok on the gauge and sensor, mechanic doesn't know what the problem is, any ideas please?

PS I've had my Tiger 14 months now and never heard the term 'Girly' how come?
Title: Re: Temperamental fuel gauge
Post by: Mustang on May 25, 2011, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: "Milligan"Here goes with my first proper post, hope it makes sense.
I noticed on a ride that my fuel gauge was not working (2001 955i) It came back on after a couple of stops but only for a few minutes. With my limited technical ability I checked connections into the gauge and the sensor at the side of the tank and sprayed with contact cleaner, no joy except for lights on the dash.
Took it to a garage and it appears the gauge works sometimes, resistances checked and appear to be ok on the gauge and sensor, mechanic doesn't know what the problem is, any ideas please?

PS I've had my Tiger 14 months now and never heard the term 'Girly' how come?
the sender in the tank sticks ...........known issue with the Girly bikes .
some work fine some , not so much .

Girlies are ol skool from the late 90's on the Yahoo Tiger forum .
Title: Re: Temperamental fuel gauge
Post by: KuzzinKenny on May 26, 2011, 01:31:51 AM
Quote from: "Milligan"I've had my Tiger 14 months now and never heard the term 'Girly' how come?

http://www.mbike.com/triumph/tiger-955i ... hoto-12789 (http://www.mbike.com/triumph/tiger-955i/2003/photos/photo-12789)

looks like eyebrows on the lights !!  :lol:

use the search button at top of page for ( fuel gauge ) and you should find more than enough info  :D

KK

ps Welcome to TT.com  :occasion14
Title: Fuel sender
Post by: Milligan on May 26, 2011, 09:07:42 PM
Based on observations here and elsewhere I'm getting a new sender, fitting tomorrow, if it arrives! Heres to hoping that that is what the problem was. Thanks for the help.
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Post by: Putts255 on May 27, 2011, 03:39:40 PM
A lot easier to do than I thought it would be.

You will have it done in less than 15 minutes.  Just make sure the one you get has the black float and not white.  These are the newer ones.

Mine works great since I changed it out last month.
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Post by: walker on May 27, 2011, 04:04:06 PM
I have had the wires at the bottom work loose as well - I could wiggle them and sometimes get a connection (testing it with an ohm meter).

I cut the sending unit apart, and the solder joints where the wires connect to the circuit board had come loose. Newer one may help, but this was on a 2006 model.

The new unit hasn't had a problem since then.
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Post by: Sasquatch on May 27, 2011, 11:32:34 PM
I have an odd one that is heat related.  2001 955i.  On hot days, after filling up, gauge will go to full, then slowly drop to E, then back to F, then slowly to E, the cycle repeats for a while.  Does not do it at all when cold.

Replaced sender, cleaned connections, still does it.

I am going to change the wire from the ECM to the gauge and see what that does.
Title: Not the fuel sender then??
Post by: Milligan on June 01, 2011, 08:07:25 PM
Further to an earlier post re a wonky fuel gauge.....All the indications were that the poblem was the fuel sender backed up by opinion on here and the RAT forum. Got a new sender, fitted it.....same problem. The fuel gauge sometimes flickers into life when the ignition is on and very quickly dies again, just as with the original sender, haven't been far to see if the gauge comes on as normal occaisionally as it did before but I'd put money on it. If its not the sender what else could it be?
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Post by: Mustang on June 01, 2011, 08:18:41 PM
get out the circuit diagram from your owners manual and start tracing the wiring.........won't surprise me if you find broken /weak solder joints at the key switch .
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on June 02, 2011, 11:00:55 AM
:lol: And you could PM Sasquach, his is exactly the same.... :roll:
Title: F****n* fuel gauge
Post by: Milligan on June 12, 2011, 08:39:14 PM
Not a flicker for ages and then.....yesterday it came on.....stayed on nearly all morning through two or three stops and starts.....then it went off again....Help!!
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Post by: chairhead on June 12, 2011, 09:37:32 PM
I had the same problem ,only mine was in the ECU,check the black block connector that goes into the ECU,i hope that its not that.
Title: Faulty fuel gauge part 207.......
Post by: Milligan on June 22, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
Well..........Fuel gauge gone from being totally inactive to working properly for the first five or ten minutes of a ride then going off, second start working and going off straight away, sometimes the fuel light comes on too. Not touched a thing, have I got a Girly ghost??
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Post by: KuzzinKenny on June 23, 2011, 02:09:59 AM
Hey Milligan !! did ya check yer ECU ?? remove it from the undertray ( you can leave it plugged in to do this ) and check the underside of it !! is it rusty  :shock: is there a hole in the undertray ?? fill the hole with silicone sealant and if the rust is just on the surface coat it with ACF-50 or simmilar !!

if its rotten  :shock: go check chairhead's post  :shock:

good luck !!

KK

ps if everythin look ok, try some Redex injector cleaner as it might lube yer fuel gauge   :?
Title: Faulty fuel gauge part 1,302
Post by: Milligan on June 29, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
Faulty fuel gauge...not!! For three or four days now the thing has been (touch wood) working properly....not touched it....go fathom!
Title: Re: Faulty fuel gauge part 1,302
Post by: Timbox2 on June 29, 2011, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: "Milligan"Faulty fuel gauge...not!! For three or four days now the thing has been (touch wood) working properly....not touched it....go fathom!

Mine used to do that, but if I ran the tank really low it would seize again and the light would stay on, but since I took mine apart and fettled it, its been OK, for 20k miles or so now.
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Post by: deepsouthtiger on June 30, 2011, 02:57:15 AM
Mine has been broken for about a year.  I just use the 'ol skool trip meter method of fuel guestimation.  THe majority of bikes I have owned over the years didn't even offer fuel gauges.
Title: same on my 2001 Girly....
Post by: cooljm on August 09, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
i also started having same problem....  it the guage would go to empty and then back up again on occassion... but ran it really low and now it doesnt seem to work much at all.  get the going to full back to empty then fuel light may or may not come on.  Any one check with a triumph dealer....or do they want to sell you a bunch of parts. :(
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Post by: Sasquatch on August 09, 2011, 04:19:56 PM
An update.

Mine is heat related, but only at full or near full.  It works fine running down the road, even on a hot day.  Go through a town where the engine heat is allowed to soak up into the tank or wiring, and the gauge starts it's full/empty cycle again.  Get through the town and back to highway speeds, it settled down and works properly.  Does not seem to be a problem when the tank is at lower fuel levels.

When I get a moment I am going to pull the side cover off and run the bike on the center stand and hit parts of the wiring with a heat gun to see if I can localize where the failure is.
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