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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Topic started by: bwvtom on July 22, 2011, 03:08:28 AM

Title: Suspension front and rear
Post by: bwvtom on July 22, 2011, 03:08:28 AM
Hi everyone.

Has any one had any experience with Hyperpro suspension on their 955i tigers?

My old girl, (100,000kms) is now in need of some front and rear suspension and I figure it deserves an upgrade whilst I'm at it.

Have heard of a few who use Willburs units, and there is WP as well.

but I haven't heard too much about Hyperpro gear.

Any feedback appreciated.

Cheers B-burl  :)
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Post by: Chris Canning on July 23, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
As you already know Dutch shock company doing along the same lines as Wilbers with custom order shocks,I know folks with other bikes that speak well of them,no better better no worse,so long as you like purple shock springs  :shock:
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Post by: mtrdrms on July 25, 2011, 01:35:04 AM
I went with the hagon and love it.  This guy writes a nice review:
http://www.adrianmolloy.com/Hagon_Shock.html (http://www.adrianmolloy.com/Hagon_Shock.html)
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Post by: bwvtom on July 25, 2011, 07:17:40 AM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"As you already know Dutch shock company doing along the same lines as Wilbers with custom order shocks,I know folks with other bikes that speak well of them,no better better no worse,so long as you like purple shock springs  :shock:

Thanks Chris & mtrdrms
I've had a good look at them and they look like a well engineered product and about the same money as a Wilbers unit.

The front valves are actually the same ones Wilbers uses anyway and the springs are all made by the same crew just relabled.

I do use the hydraulic preload adjuster all the time as the loads are always varying between nothing and two weeks worth of water, fuel, camp gear, solo & two up.  So will need that option.

So think I will go for them.

Cheers B-Burl  8)
Title: thumbs up for HyperPro
Post by: pizzaman383 on July 29, 2011, 01:54:42 AM
I got a HyperPro rear shock and really like it.  They originally sent the wrong shock (I have 2004 and they sent a 2006 shock).  I like the progressive shock on the HyperPro.  I also got the HyperPro progressive fork springs.  The combination keeps a ride that's fairly similar to the stock ride.
Title: Re: thumbs up for HyperPro
Post by: Chris Canning on July 29, 2011, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: "pizzaman383"The combination keeps a ride that's fairly similar to the stock ride.

If thats the case I'd avoid e'm like the plague,and buy Wilbers.
Title: Re: thumbs up for HyperPro
Post by: pizzaman383 on July 29, 2011, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"If thats the case I'd avoid e'm like the plague,and buy Wilbers.

Different strokes for different folks :wink:.

Let me be more clear.  The thing I liked about the stock Tiger suspension was that it was not as stiff as most road bikes.  It was able to soak up bumps with comfort.  Of course, it had bad points I really disliked; huge fork dive, imprecise cornering, weight shifts during cornering, etc.  The HyperPros with progressive springs (plus fork cartridge emulators) takes away the bad and leaves the good.
Title: Re: Suspension front and rear
Post by: DobroDog on August 02, 2011, 10:05:47 AM
Quote from: "bwvtom"Hi everyone.

Has any one had any experience with Hyperpro suspension on their 955i tigers?

My old girl, (100,000kms) is now in need of some front and rear suspension and I figure it deserves an upgrade whilst I'm at it.

Have heard of a few who use Willburs units, and there is WP as well.

but I haven't heard too much about Hyperpro gear.

Any feedback appreciated.

Cheers B-burl  :)

I replaced the shock on my 01 with a Works shock. The stocker would bottom out riding two up, no such problem with the shock from Works. Definitely feels better than stock.  I do have to keep the lower part of the spring lubricated or I get a nasty squeak  :oops:
Title: Re: Suspension front and rear
Post by: Chris Canning on August 02, 2011, 09:32:23 PM
Quote from: "DobroDog"
Quote from: "bwvtom"Hi everyone.

Has any one had any experience with Hyperpro suspension on their 955i tigers?

My old girl, (100,000kms) is now in need of some front and rear suspension and I figure it deserves an upgrade whilst I'm at it.

Have heard of a few who use Willburs units, and there is WP as well.

but I haven't heard too much about Hyperpro gear.

Any feedback appreciated.

Cheers B-burl  :)

I replaced the shock on my 01 with a Works shock. The stocker would bottom out riding two up, no such problem with the shock from Works. Definitely feels better than stock.  I do have to keep the lower part of the spring lubricated or I get a nasty squeak  :oops:

You should put some photos up,Works stays very much in the States,but more info maybe helpfull to others,was it custom made to you weight etc.
Title: Re: Suspension front and rear
Post by: DobroDog on August 03, 2011, 02:17:18 AM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"You should put some photos up,Works stays very much in the States,but more info maybe helpfull to others,was it custom made to you weight etc.

They will customize it for your weight and riding style. The Preload/Sag is adjusted by using a spanner to turn the Preload nut that sits on top of the spring. Rebound is adjusted by turning an allen screw at the bottom of the shock. At the time I picked up my shock from them they did not have a model with an external reservoir with compression adjustment Will try to post a picture later.
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Post by: DobroDog on August 03, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
Checked out the Works web site and they still cover the 855 and 955 Tigers. Below is a link to their website. The model that fits the Tiger is the UltraSport Gas Emulsion shock...no reservoir

[urlhttp://www.worksperformance.com/html/street.html[/url]

Price is under $700 US
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Post by: Sasquatch on August 03, 2011, 03:27:51 PM
I hesitated posting in this thread because I am a Hyperpro dealer, but I am sold on their shocks.  I put the base model on my 01 and am totally pleased with the result.  They built it and set it up perfectly out of the box for my unique loads and riding style.  Something I am pretty critical of because I make my living building suspensions.

Bike is very planted on the road.  On rough paved FS roads while riding rather hard, the rear just stays planted.  Hitting bumps and debris mid corner does not unsettle the bike at all now.

The shock retails for $590, with the remote spring preload adjuster option at $270.  It is a custom built to order shock set up for you.

I originally did not opt for the remote adjuster, but am thinking I may get one.  If you do not adjust your spring much, you could do just fine without it.

The front of the Tiger responds very well with a set of straight rate fork springs ($110-120 from me) and a set of Race Tech emulators at $165.

My bike works so well that there is simply no bike on the market today that is even tickling my fancy to trade mine for.
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Post by: Chris Canning on August 03, 2011, 05:40:28 PM
Quote from: "Sasquatch"I hesitated posting in this thread because I am a Hyperpro dealer, but I am sold on their shocks.  I put the base model on my 01 and am totally pleased with the result.  They built it and set it up perfectly out of the box for my unique loads and riding style.  Something I am pretty critical of because I make my living building suspensions.

Bike is very planted on the road.  On rough paved FS roads while riding rather hard, the rear just stays planted.  Hitting bumps and debris mid corner does not unsettle the bike at all now.

The shock retails for $590, with the remote spring preload adjuster option at $270.  It is a custom built to order shock set up for you.

I originally did not opt for the remote adjuster, but am thinking I may get one.  If you do not adjust your spring much, you could do just fine without it.

The front of the Tiger responds very well with a set of straight rate fork springs ($110-120 from me) and a set of Race Tech emulators at $165.

My bike works so well that there is simply no bike on the market today that is even tickling my fancy to trade mine for.

Couldn't see any bad spelling either!!!(sorry injoke off another forum),bike wise me neither having just put a monster spring on my Ohlins,just needs a tad more work  :roll:

Any Brit looking at those prices,don't ask me how the Americans get away with it  :? ,I know a lad here in the UK who buys his Wilbers via the US their ,Germany/US/UK and cheaper  :(  bonkers,and I've no doubt Hyperpro is as well,but if you do buy, don't shout about it, the UK importer will complain  :evil:
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Post by: Timbox2 on August 03, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
I thought somebody said on here some months back that Hyperpro Europe had stopped making Tiger shocks, he even posted an email reply from them where they stated that they were not happy building these shocks anymore as they werent happy with Triumphs  design.
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Post by: Sasquatch on August 03, 2011, 07:27:43 PM
I sell quite a few with no problems.
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Post by: Timbox2 on August 03, 2011, 08:58:11 PM
Quote from: "Sasquatch"I sell quite a few with no problems.

I know you do, are US Hyperpro built in the States?
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Post by: Sasquatch on August 03, 2011, 10:14:08 PM
Nope, in Holland.
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Post by: Timbox2 on August 03, 2011, 10:36:32 PM
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Nope, in Holland.


Odd, wish I could find that post.

Edit:  Found it, http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... t=hyperpro (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,8620&highlight=hyperpro)
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Post by: Chris Canning on August 03, 2011, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: "Timbox2"
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Nope, in Holland.


Odd, wish I could find that post.

Edit:  Found it, http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... t=hyperpro (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,8620&highlight=hyperpro)

Tim

I must have missed that thread,because in recent weeks I've had the same conversation about my Ohlins,when the qoute wasThe reason you need a spring that big is because Triumph don't/didn't know what the F their doing with the swing arm.

In fairness to a balanced thread,I've set a bike up that will scratch at any speed,two with a pile of kit.
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Post by: Sasquatch on August 03, 2011, 11:48:35 PM
Like I said, I am not having any problems getting parts from Hyperpro for Tigers.  Maybe with this economy they decided to not throw sales away.  I bought one for my 01 in March, and sold 4 since then.  One customer is getting theirs this week.
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Post by: sgt-pluck on August 04, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
I've had the Hyperpro on the back on mine for a while now.  I went for the '3d emulsion', but with optional height adjuster so I could raise the rear to improve cornering.  Damping is much, much better, the spring is softer than the stock spring ( matched to rider weight ) but far better controlled.  Bike feels much more composed, and 'poised' in all situations.

I've got Racetech emulators in the front as well: an improvement again over stock and I'm glad I did it, but the biggest bang for the buck was the Hyperpro on the rear.

N

Oh and PS - I ride mostly on tarmac, so can't comment on off-road capability of this set-up.
Title: I'm a satisfied customer of Sasquatch
Post by: pizzaman383 on August 07, 2011, 12:51:04 AM
Quote from: "Sasquatch"Like I said, I am not having any problems getting parts from Hyperpro for Tigers.  Maybe with this economy they decided to not throw sales away.  I bought one for my 01 in March, and sold 4 since then.  One customer is getting theirs this week.

Sasquatch was great to deal with.
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Post by: Chris Canning on August 07, 2011, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: "sgt-pluck"but the biggest bang for the buck was the Hyperpro o

In reality you can subsitute Hyperpro with any other aftermarket manafacturere depending on budget,which ever you fit is just a league in front of the stocker,whats always so frustrating is how much resistance folks put up,'Do I really need one' 'Will I notice the difference' blah blah blah and when they do,it's like someone switched the light on in a dark room.
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