Vibration issues

[OHjim]

I put the carb sticks back on last night and held her at 4k rpm's without making any further adjustments.  Then slowly went through the rev range till about 5k while watching the levels.  All cylinders flowed consistently through the range.  So I left the adjustments alone.  

Someone had mentioned spark/all cylinders firing.  Is there a way to check if all coils are working properly at 4k rpm?  I did put the new iridium plugs in but not much difference.

[Chris Canning]

At the risk of pointing out the obvious,if I bought a new or new second hand bike and wasn't happy with it,in this case a Tiger I'd find another owner and get him to ride it for his/her opinion,before doing anything

[OHjim]

Chris - obvious, but I appreciate it.  I was thinking of taking it to the dealer because one of the guys there has an '06 and let him ride it.  So your post is a good confirmation.  Although, his is black . . . .

[OHjim]

OK - I got everything back together this weekend and found this here when I was cleaning up:





Anyone seen one of these before?  Seems like it went on the front of the engine maybe based on where it was.  Although I suppose it could have dropped on the floor and bounced up????

Also, not much change in vibration.  But the cruise is installed and works great.  I will have to swing by the dealer and have him look at the vibration and let me know if that's normal.  Maybe I just need to fill the bars with lead shot like the connie owners . . . .

[metalguru]

Looks like a mounting/alignment dowel to me.
Have another look at all the things you took apart.

[Bixxer Bob]

Looks like circlip grooves on both ends :roll:

Have you tried trawling through the bike bandit on-line parts diagrams?

[Chris Canning]

So whats the out come?

[OHjim]

Thanks for reminding me.  I forgot to download the pics I took over the weekend but can give a verbal update.

I took the Tiger to Engle's (dealer) and had a sales guy who has an '06 Tiger take it for a spin.  He said it was vibrating just a bit more than his so he was going to get in touch with Triumph USA.  He did not feel it was too bad though.

Then I was contacted by a member here that has an '06 locally.  I met him and we swapped rides.  They were very similar in buzziness, though his was slightly less.  The mirrors buzzed on both bikes.  As a side note, he had Pilot Roads on and they sure are smoother than DS tires.  Never realized how much different as I had never had a chance to ride the same bike with different tires back-to-back.

Then, to get a baseline, I removed the Touratech engine guards and tightened the mount bolts up per factory manual.  No difference.  So I feel I can keep the guards on without affecting things.  However, when I took off the guards and tried to put the bolts back into their holes, the farthest front upper bolt hole was misaligned so bad that I had a very tough time getting the bolt back in.  Every other bolt was loosened so that I could re-torque everything per spec.  I tried prying the right side of the engine forward to align the holes, jacking up the engine, etc., but not much helped.  I finally had to thread the bolt into the hole and turn it round and round and round to get it in.  I will try to post a pic tonight of the misalignment.  Maybe that is affecting vibration????

So, I have the guards back on now and am looking at new handlebars and the Vibranator (just love that name).  The bars I'm thinking about are Pro Taper SE KLX/DRZ 110 in silver ( http://www.protaper.com/products/handlebars/se ) as they are the flattest bar I could find with a bit of rise over the stock bars. And they have a similar clamp area to the Tiger.  Many other clamp areas are wider and look like they will hit the tank at full lock - I held up a wider set at the dealer.

Jim

[Chris Canning]

Having determined it's not much different to others(no two are alike) I'd have gone for a full service or new plugs at the very least,but hey ho,I only asked as many had put their two peneeth and and no reply.

[OHjim]

Well, the dealer did the 6k service before I bought the bike. Then I had them update the tune (for TOR, which I may have them switch back because it did not improve anything).  And I put in Iridium plugs, which I have put in all my bikes.  

I think all I am concerned with now is that the intake valves had more-than-I-expected-for-7k-miles carbon build-up (picture in previous post).  I think I may try the Seafoam intake cleaning, though I am not sure how to get the Seafoam to all three cylinders evenly.  On a  car, you simply pull the power brake hose and let it suck up the fluid into the intake manifold.  Since we don't have a manifold, I may try to use the hole on the right side of the airbox (where I found the hose was disconnected when I took off the tank).  Otherwise, I'll have to pull the tank again.

[KuzzinKenny]

Then, to get a baseline, I removed the Touratech engine guards and tightened the mount bolts up per factory manual.  No difference.  So I feel I can keep the guards on without affecting things.  However, when I took off the guards and tried to put the bolts back into their holes, the farthest front upper bolt hole was misaligned so bad that I had a very tough time getting the bolt back in.  Every other bolt was loosened so that I could re-torque everything per spec.  I tried prying the right side of the engine forward to align the holes, jacking up the engine, etc., but not much helped.  I finally had to thread the bolt into the hole and turn it round and round and round to get it in.  I will try to post a pic tonight of the misalignment.  Maybe that is affecting vibration????

I'd get the frame checked if i were you, could have a slight twist in it  :shock:

is there any signs that the bike might of had a crash !!

KK

[Chris Canning]

The answer is already on here re the comparison rides.

[OHjim]

The answer is already on here re the comparison rides.

I agree.  I am doing the bars and vibranators 1) for better ergos and 2) lessen mirror buzz (hopefully).  My posture isn't great with the factory bars and I think it is contribution to hand tingling along with the buzz.

[Mustang]

I agree.  I am doing the bars and vibranators 1) for better ergos and 2) lessen mirror buzz (hopefully).  My posture isn't great with the factory bars and I think it is contribution to hand tingling along with the buzz.

the aluminum pro taper bars are going to buzz worse than steel bars and make your hands tingle twice as fast ......trust me , i have a set on my 98 and steel ones on my other 98 , the steel bars have less buzz than the pro taper bars

[OHjim]

the aluminum pro taper bars are going to buzz worse than steel bars and make your hands tingle twice as fast ......trust me , i have a set on my 98 and steel ones on my other 98 , the steel bars have less buzz than the pro taper bars

Well, I bought them already and waiting delivery.  Oh well.  I wonder if this is another seat, windshield, etc. type of thing because I know I've read many posts on advrider and vsri (V-Strom) that aluminum were better than steel and only a few the other way 'round.  I think I will like the bend better.