This happend today

[chairhead]

So im riding west on the M4,

the tacho and speedo become intermitant,i lose power almost like the

engine is seizing,i stop check everything......the cables to the battery in

the boot of the sidecar are loose,the +pos being warm to touch,tools out

and secure the fasteners,back on the bike and ride a bit further,same

thing happens,again i get off and check everything,nothing found,this time

i try to start the bike but the batteries are dead!!,so i try to figure out

what to do next,bump start it=forget it,call out recovery=last resort,

check all connectors that i can see,push this prod that,try to start again

and nothing,half hour goes by and i try again.....bingo,it starts(mil light on)

little did i know i was running on battery power alone,got as far as

leigh delamere services where recovery was called :?  :(

now im thinking the reg/rec or stator has gone tits up,any ideas how to

check if im right or wrong,has anyone else suffered this,or does anyone

have an idea?

[Mustang]

start here........

http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,10206

[Bixxer Bob]

Bad luck mate, but where Tigers are concerned, there's nothing new under the sun..... :?

[chairhead]

Mustang,

thanks for the link

i went out today and bought myself a nice little multimeter from maplins

and followed the recipe on the link,the good news is that the R/R is in

good shape,

the bad news,i think the stator is fubar :( ,i say think because i had no

reading on the meter,nothing from the stator to R/R plug end and i should

be getting a Leakage resistance >10k ohms :?: ,now my multimeter

lowest ohms setting is 20k :?: ,does anyone know if im doing something

wrong,or have any other ideas :idea:

cheers

[Mustang]

you should have seen something on the meter
zero equals open circuit = burnt / broken wires on the stator that no longer make continuity

[Danny955i]

Sounds like your individual diagnosis of parts shows they're all OK and should work...

Did you test your battery? 99.9% sure you have a short in it.

This happened to me last year with the SAME running issue... first the gauges went dead, then when I came to a stop the bike stalled completely. Tried bump-starting it to no avail.

Basically the bike will run off the alternator and if there's a short in the battery, it's almost like you disconnected the + lead and NO charge will enter the battery... the battery needs to be 100% part of the circuit in order for all accessories (and critical parts like ECU) to get the proper amount of juice to run.

Scrap the battery, get a new one. Check all your connections.

Possibly do the "rectifier/regulator hard-wire" just be sure you get a SUPER heavy-duty in-line fuse unit and solder all connections, cheap ones will burn up.

Your stator is probably fine. The dual battery setup may be your issue... you're demanding double the output to maintain charge... normally the rectifier would burn out before the stator in such a case.

[chairhead]

you should have seen something on the meter
zero equals open circuit = burnt / broken wires on the stator that no longer make continuity

Mustang,
I dont know if ive done this correctly :?: ive never used a multimeter be fore for anything except across a battery :oops: .

So i put the two batteries(fully charged the oyddesy reading 13.6,the bike battery 12.7) back on the outfit and started the bike up,put the multimeter across the battery on the bike and had a reading of 12.6 volts,revved the engine and it dropped .1 volt and came back up to 12.6,lights on and it dropped to 12.3 and no further,lights off and it eventually climbed to 12.8,

am i right in thinking the reading on the multimeter should have climbed on revving the engine :?: thus telling me its charging.

Thanks for the input so far,it is very much appreciated

[iansoady]

You should have seen at least 14 volts if everything was connected properly and the alternator and reg/rec were working properly.

[chairhead]

So,

had the stator refurbed,bought another reg/rec,bought new gaskets

bought a multimeter (should've had one anyway)

checked all my connections and this morning

put it all back together and ran her up....................still the same

not charging,did some of the same tests with the multimeter and nothing

im supposed to be going to Germany Thursday :(  :( ,

i dont why i did it but im glad i did,not to mention very very embarrassed
and also very very angry at myself,i took the cover from the fuse box to

to find the 30amp fuse half melted,i pulled it out and replaced it, started

the bike up ......and would you look at that :!:  :!:  :!: 14.3 volts

what an absolute testicle i am,time and time again ive been told "start

with the easy stuff first", and doesnt come any easier than a 5p fuse

DOH :!:  :!:  :!: "you live you learn" :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

[Timbox2]

It takes a lot to own up to stuff like this mate, so well done and thanks, it may help someone else in the future, and anyway we've all done something similar in the past Im sure.

[jphish]

Oh hell yeah...I've done a lot worse! Like when I arc'd my 13mm spanner between battery posts last week. Sometimes it's just the "When good fuses go Bad" syndrome. But you might want to carry a spare 30 amp fuse or 2. Wonder why it 'melted' ?? 30 amps is A LOT of current. But I have replaced bad fuses before - with no recurrent issues.

[Crazylegs]

I think most of us can think of a time when we've jumped to a diagnostic conclusions based on a "worst case" mind set. Recently, I learned this valuable lesson..... now I'll check the easy stuff first. Good to hear you have her running well again. :)

[iansoady]

When I first had my Tiger, I let my brother have a spin on it. An hour later he returned and left the bike in the drive.

When I went out to start it, it turned over but nothing else.

After half an hour checking fuses etc I discovered he's stopped it on the kill switch and left it switched off.........