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Lowering on the cheap

Started by MarkShelley, September 05, 2012, 10:59:06 PM

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MarkShelley

Fitting the Corbin has made quite a difference to the ease of getting my feet down as the saddle is wider so I would like to lower the bike a bit to compensate. It is fine with a pillion as the suspension is compressed.
I know you can turn the chain adjusters upside down at the rear, but has anybody dropped the front forks through the yokes a bit to drop the front? If so, is there an optimum amount?
This ole World keeps spinning round, it`s a wonder tall trees aint layin down.

Tiger 900
BMW R1100GS
Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California
Yamaha TT250R
Yamaha DT50MX
Honda MT50/C90 Hybrid racing moped!
Yamaha DT50MX

Mustang

you generally need to pull the forks up the same amount you drop the rear , an inch is a good place to start .

one drawback to rotating the eccentric is that it WILL cause premature wear of the chain slider on the bottom side .

MarkShelley

How quickly will the chain slider disintegrate then?
I may just try dropping the forks through the yokes by an inch to begin with and see how that feels. It should quicken up the turn in a bit, not that it really needs it.
This ole World keeps spinning round, it`s a wonder tall trees aint layin down.

Tiger 900
BMW R1100GS
Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California
Yamaha TT250R
Yamaha DT50MX
Honda MT50/C90 Hybrid racing moped!
Yamaha DT50MX

Mustang

dropping the forks that much without lowering the rear is not advisable.

the chain slider bottom lasts for long enough to not be a problem .
mines worn out now from flipping the eccentric but it did 20 thousand miles approx.
and the mrs steamer does about the same .

it has never been an issue for me just making sure you know to check it's condition more often after lowering as it does wear faster

Sin_Tiger

I wouldn't drop the yokes as much as 25mm, she'll flop into the corners like a beached whale,I am with Mustang on this the right tyres will give you pent quick enough steering, its not a crotch rocket.
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

MarkShelley

Quote from: Sin_Tiger on September 06, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
I wouldn't drop the yokes as much as 25mm, she'll flop into the corners like a beached whale,I am with Mustang on this the right tyres will give you pent quick enough steering, its not a crotch rocket.

You didn`t read my first post I guess, I am looking to lower it, not make it steer quicker. I just said that dropping the yoke would probably cause that. As it happens I did it this evening and have been for a ride and it does not feel noticeably different turning in to be honest. I will do the rear if I get time at the weekend
This ole World keeps spinning round, it`s a wonder tall trees aint layin down.

Tiger 900
BMW R1100GS
Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California
Yamaha TT250R
Yamaha DT50MX
Honda MT50/C90 Hybrid racing moped!
Yamaha DT50MX

MarkShelley

Done 60 odd miles in bendy B roads and decided that it handles rather well with the 1" drop on the front. It has solved my problem so I will leave the rear alone.
This ole World keeps spinning round, it`s a wonder tall trees aint layin down.

Tiger 900
BMW R1100GS
Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California
Yamaha TT250R
Yamaha DT50MX
Honda MT50/C90 Hybrid racing moped!
Yamaha DT50MX

MarkShelley

The more miles I cover the better it feels. 
I really reciommend you try dropping the front 25mm to see what you think.
This ole World keeps spinning round, it`s a wonder tall trees aint layin down.

Tiger 900
BMW R1100GS
Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California
Yamaha TT250R
Yamaha DT50MX
Honda MT50/C90 Hybrid racing moped!
Yamaha DT50MX


Sin_Tiger

Quote from: MarkShelley on September 06, 2012, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on September 06, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
I wouldn't drop the yokes as much as 25mm, she'll flop into the corners like a beached whale,I am with Mustang on this the right tyres will give you pent quick enough steering, its not a crotch rocket.

You didn`t read my first post I guess, I am looking to lower it, not make it steer quicker. I just said that dropping the yoke would probably cause that. As it happens I did it this evening and have been for a ride and it does not feel noticeably different turning in to be honest. I will do the rear if I get time at the weekend

I did read it, dropping the yolks will shorten the wheelbase and change the front end geometry and it will steer quicker, I found 25mm too much for my liking, just saying, if you like it, fine but be warned, take it easy the first time out in the wet, completely different feel.

I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

MarkShelley

I find feedback from the front is actually better in the corners than it was. At high speed on the motorway it is definately less flighty. I found that when you got around 95mph the front end got really light, but it is better now.
This ole World keeps spinning round, it`s a wonder tall trees aint layin down.

Tiger 900
BMW R1100GS
Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California
Yamaha TT250R
Yamaha DT50MX
Honda MT50/C90 Hybrid racing moped!
Yamaha DT50MX

Sin_Tiger

I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

coachgeo

for future reference.

Out side the box thinking.  Or Reaching to your Sole for solutions. :notworthy

Put stacked soles on your boots.  Might have to modify your shifter to get boot under it. 

Advantage........

. you tune bikes geometry to your weight, style without needing to take any sacrifices to a accommodate height.
. you do not loose ground clearance off road.

. disadvantage- your perceptions of where your foot is to the ground will be off. Potential injury unless you spend a lot of time to find your ahhhhhhhhh.......... new footing. :thumbsup
. some style dork will say your look is off (or you'll start a new fashion trend)
 
COACH POSER (Till Tribota Tiger's done & I'm riding it)

Sin_Tiger

 :5huh do you really want to look like Gary Glitter  :pottytrain2
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

coachgeo

Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 16, 2013, 04:28:07 AM
:5huh do you really want to look like Gary Glitter  :pottytrain2



Daytona Mstar? boots are available with some sole lift and some inside lift equaling about 1". Some say  you can't even tell it.  Me....... could give a rats ass.  :sign13"if it works"  "it's not stupid"  :XXsunsmile
COACH POSER (Till Tribota Tiger's done & I'm riding it)