K&N Oil Filter - Did Not Fit

[Patrick the Scot]

I got a K&N Filter (part number KN191) from PJ's Triumph to install along with the oil change.  I got the Triumph filter off the bike easy enough, and when I went to install the new K&N it would not seat properly.  I tighten it as far as it would go, (w/o breaking something) and it would still wiggle side to side.  I then took the filter off and saw that the rolled edge of the filter was hitting some sort of washer/retainer that is just to the outside of the gasket seating relief.  I then measured the Triumph Filter as opposed to the K&N.  The K&N was about 3.175 mm bigger than the Triumph.  So I was skunked on the oil change.  I duct-taped the key hole on the ignition with a "NO OIL" sign.  



After that I finished in the garage, I rang Steve at PJ's and told him the situ. He had not heard anything of the sort.  He is sending me a new Triumph filter on Monday, at no charge. I will send him the K&N for his inspection as we would both like to know if this an anomoly or a common problem, on the '05.



Anybody heard of this?

[Frank.B]

Hello Patrick.



You should have been supplied with a K&N filter #192 for the Tiger.

What year is your Tig?



Frank.

[Patrick the Scot]

My Tiger is an '05 model.  Is the #192 for the '05 model or is it for the 955i Tiger across the board.

[Frank.B]

Patrick.



The KN191 is listed for the TT600, Bonny, Speed Triple, Daytona 955i, and Sprint.

I understand that the kn 192 does all the Tigers.



Frank.

[davensocal]

Patrick-

Hope this doesn't come off the wrong way..  



I used an off the shelf filter...  Pepboys and Kragen carry it (I think Kragen is "Checker" in Tx..).  It is a Purolator Pure 1, P/N PL14612.  It's about $6.

From what I have been able to research, it is one of the best filters available, and it is reasonably priced.



This site talks all about them, I found it very helpful..  http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consum ... OilFilters (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html#OilFilters)



Good Luck!



Dave.

[Patrick the Scot]

Patrick-

Hope this doesn't come off the wrong way..  



I used an off the shelf filter...  Pepboys and Kragen carry it (I think Kragen is "Checker" in Tx..).  It is a Purolator Pure 1, P/N PL14612.  It's about $6.

From what I have been able to research, it is one of the best filters available, and it is reasonably priced.



This site talks all about them, I found it very helpful..  http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consum ... OilFilters (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Consumables.html#OilFilters)



Dave.

Honestly, I've never even thought of going to the parts stores.  I've gotten so used to buying all my over-priced cartridge filters for my dirt-bikes at the moto-shops that it never occurred to me to look elsewhere.  Thanks for the suggestion.

[tigerowner_ut]

I use a Bosch 3300 oil filter from Autozone.  It  filters as well as the Purolator.  Both are excelent filters and quite a bit cheaper than stock.

[Patrick the Scot]

Thanks all for the info on alternate filters. I'll have to check into them.  I did get the OEM filter from PJ's last Monday and of course, no problems.

[Mark]

I ordered an K&N oil filter through my local bike dealership (Kawasaki, as Triumph is 60KM away) and I got PN KN191, having read this thread previously I said it's the wrong PN and told them KN192, the KN192 was a paper cartridge type and definately the wrong type. My Tiger model is '01 955i, so I took the KN191 and endevoured to change the filter.



Now the previous oil & filter change was done by the Triumph dealer, I couldn't even budge the filter, I know it's a tight fit and all but I figured I could manage just to break the 'torque' of the seal, no way my friends was this puppy moving, maybe its a left-hand thread, so I rang the dealer no standard right hand thread. He suggests bringing it in and they'll use their special tool to loosen it. So of I go, get the filter 'loosen', get home and try again...no joy again! Now I'm really pissed off! So out comes the screwdriver and I pierce the filter and finally get the filter off.



Yes the KN191 oil filter fits an '01 955i model. It also has a 17mm nut on the bottom of the filter to enable tightening and loosening. Never again am I letting the dealer near my bike



Cheers

Mark

[PeteBrooks]

Yes the KN191 oil filter fits an '01 955i model. It also has a 17mm nut on the bottom of the filter to enable tightening and loosening. Never again am I letting the dealer near my bike

I can confirm the the KN191 does NOT fit a (my) 2002 955i Tiger. I have just tried, the lip is too big and as you spin it on the paint scrapes from the filter.