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Sprocket cover off..again

Started by threepot, August 21, 2016, 04:03:25 PM

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threepot

During the last few rides,I've noticed a strange 'rubbing' noise from the chain? So,with an oil change due,and crap weather,decided to investigate. After removal of the sprocket cover,revealed 2 pieces of plastic pipe from my chain oiler,which had been dragged under the sprocket! Not used the oiler for a while(stopped working)so hadn't noticed pipe was missing. But what's surprising is how quickly muck and crud can build up there! I'd only cleaned it out about 18months ago?! I ride a lot on B and mountain roads,and occasionaly the odd track,so maybe thats the reason?
I'm also going to try a 19t sprocket,and fitted a new clutch pushrod seal.
95 Super111
96 Tiger

thebiglad

Quote from: threepot on August 21, 2016, 04:03:25 PM
During the last few rides,I've noticed a strange 'rubbing' noise from the chain? So,with an oil change due,and crap weather,decided to investigate. After removal of the sprocket cover,revealed 2 pieces of plastic pipe from my chain oiler,which had been dragged under the sprocket! Not used the oiler for a while(stopped working)so hadn't noticed pipe was missing. But what's surprising is how quickly muck and crud can build up there! I'd only cleaned it out about 18months ago?! I ride a lot on B and mountain roads,and occasionaly the odd track,so maybe thats the reason?
I'm also going to try a 19t sprocket,and fitted a new clutch pushrod seal.
Hi Threepot, you'll get that level of crud in a matter of months if you use chain wax. I just bought my road queen about 5 weeks ago and when she started making funny noises I whipped off the cover to find grey grinding paste type sludge equivalent to the size of maybe a tennis ball in total. YUK !!!! As it's so easy to do I plan to clean this cover REGULARLY;

In other news - I recently fitted a 19T to my 2006 Tiger 955i and I find it a significant improvement with no downsides.
2006 Tiger 955i

Chris Canning

As someone who strips his bike to clean it as opposed to bucket and water I'm a great fan of chain wax Wurth dry lube and I get very little build up.

Re the 19t sprocket the motor will be very flat without the Airbox mod.

thebiglad

Quote from: Chris Canning on August 29, 2016, 10:34:34 AM
As someone who strips his bike to clean it as opposed to bucket and water I'm a great fan of chain wax Wurth dry lube and I get very little build up.

Re the 19t sprocket the motor will be very flat without the Airbox mod.

Well mine doesn't feel flat at all with the 19T - maybe the previous owner did the airbox mod or just maybe our expectations are different.

On a more general point you do seem to be jumping all over my posts Chris. I know I'm new to this forum and my Tiger but I'm not new to bikes or spannering. It doesn't seem to be a very friendly or welcoming attitude.
2006 Tiger 955i

Sin_Tiger

Simmer down chaps  :nono just coincidence that you're both active while it's quiet. Time for a brew  :new_popcornsmiley

Anyway you're on my patch and we're talking Steamers which are mucky beasts.  :mut
I used to have long hair, took acid and went to hip joints. Now I long for hair, take antacid and need a new hip joint

iansoady

Hi Dave.

It's much more polite than  Landyzone!!
Ian.

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Chris Canning

Quote from: thebiglad on August 29, 2016, 01:59:09 PM
Well mine doesn't feel flat at all with the 19T - maybe the previous owner did the airbox mod or just maybe our expectations are different.

On a more general point you do seem to be jumping all over my posts Chris. I know I'm new to this forum and my Tiger but I'm not new to bikes or spannering. It doesn't seem to be a very friendly or welcoming attitude.

And from my point of view your a newbie who turned up trying to re-event the wheel when it comes to the Tiger,it's a friendly forum I'd try seeing if the door is unlocked instead of just trying to smash it down. :icon_biggrin:

My concession was not picking you up on the shock spring!!! It's alright changing springs assuming the compression/rebound can handle it which it can't even handle the stocker but really is another thread do a search on me and Ohlins or Timbox and or Spud their are loads of folks on here been there done that it's all on the search button.


thebiglad

Quote from: iansoady on August 29, 2016, 04:59:03 PM
Hi Dave.

It's much more polite than  Landyzone!!

Hi Ian, I think I'll reserve judgement for the mo'.
2006 Tiger 955i

Nick Calne

Hey Threepot

Have you checked your chainguard too. There is always a good pound of Wiltshire's finest crap in mine even after a short ride.

I need a new chain sprockets oil change etc rubbing blocks etc. so I'll see if I can beat you for absolute weight of sh1te accumulated in a couple of weeks.

N.
Is it really an adventure bike if its wheels never see dirt?

threepot

Well,I've done a few hundred miles since fitting the 19t,and I'm happy with the difference it's made. I ride a mix of road types,mountain,B and A roads. No noticeable difference from stationary,but I've noticed the 'pull' from the engine isn't quite as 'crisp' from low revs negotiating say ,a slow uphill road ,or tight bend?. But a change of gear down compensates. But the difference it makes higher up in the revs,and at higher road speed,makes it a worthwhile 'mod' I think! The bike pulls much stronger,and longer in the higher gears. And more 'relaxed' cruising. If you do most of your riding on
Main or A roads,give it a try.  No difference to chain length either.
95 Super111
96 Tiger

threepot

Quote from: thebiglad on August 29, 2016, 10:30:58 AM
Hi Threepot, you'll get that level of crud in a matter of months if you use chain wax. I just bought my road queen about 5 weeks ago and when she started making funny noises I whipped off the cover to find grey grinding paste type sludge equivalent to the size of maybe a tennis ball in total. YUK !!!! As it's so easy to do I plan to clean this cover REGULARLY;

In other news - I recently fitted a 19T to my 2006 Tiger 955i and I find it a significant improvement with no downsides.
Hi. It's a few hour job on the steamer. You need to remove the sidestand bracket to remove the gear selector,and cover. But think it should be part of 'general maintenance'? I  did it less than 2yrs ago,and was surprised how much had built up there,and the sprocket had started to wear.
95 Super111
96 Tiger

fishnbiker

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Quote from: fishnbiker on September 08, 2016, 08:01:27 AM
While you're at it, why not do the "Sprocketectomy" conversion? Cutting the sprocket cover free from the oil reservoir section. This allows access without all the fussing. I regularly change from 19 tooth to 17 tooth in 15 minutes this way, depending on where I'm riding. Photos  & more info to follow tomorrow.

This idea seems to be first introduced by Mustang, a longtime contributor here. His info at:

http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,5024.msg31574.html#msg31574 (http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,5024.msg31574.html#msg31574)

My version included a little more fabricating & welding. Also includes a dipstick. I can provide guidance if anyone interested ...
Ken/Fishnbiker
& Felix, blue 95 Tiger, & Buzz, 08 blue Suzuki DR 650 SE, & Mini-D, 97 white Suzuki DR 350 SE