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#1
Other Triples / Re: Daysie's Diary
Last post by Lee337 - Today at 12:14:32 PMA coupe of days soaking and all is now clean - I don't smell of diesel, the oil under my finger nails has pretty much gone and I no longer have to sleep in the spare room because I smell like a 1960's garage monkey.
As for Daysie, she now has clean brake calipers after soaking them in diesel for 3 days. I've managed to get all the pistons out with no damage and although some of them are a bit 'crusry' around the top, where the dust seals sat, I'll give them a good clean with some fine wire wool. As I don't have to replace any of them it saves me around £120 to spend on other bits.
The rear subframe, mirror brackets and the magnesium dash intrument surround went off to the powder coaters on Saturday and should be back with me in 3 - 4 weeks. He's quoted me £142 which I didn't think was too bad.
In other news, I've removed the chain guard which was posing a problem with a couple of seized bolts, with a combination of Plusgas and mole grips. The clevis pin that attached the rear brake pedal to the rear master cylinder proved problematic. I had to remove the whole assembly and put it in the vice to try to free it up. Countless hours spent with a combination of Plusgas, pliers, molegrips and finally a hammer didn't budge it. Finally heat from my blowtorch and the hammer freed it up with no damage other than to said clevis pin.
The air box has also been removed after a fight to get it loose. It turns out Haynes Manuals do have their uses. the early Daytonas have a hidden bolt securing the front of the airbox to the frame. Another example of Triump's design mastery here, the bolt is tucked away behind the radiator and would have all but been impossible had I not already removed the radiator.
I was expecting to see three badly perished vacuum hoses running from the throttlw bodies to the IACV (for the uninitiated, the Idle Air Control Valve, which I've seen referenced as ICAV IVAC IAV and stepper motor in varoius places), and I wasn't surprised - at least with the state of the vacuum hoses, but unlike Tallulah Tiger, there was no IACV to be seen.
Turns out the IACV on early models is not sat above the throttle bodies as in later models but tucked under the throttle bodies behind the clutch actuator arm. Who knew. Looks like it's going to be a PITA to get to but as at least 4 of the 6 hose connectors are not connected and two of them seem to be bunged up with crud, it's got to come out to be checked & cleaned. I have a copy of the Triumph service manual on the PC so I can see the laptop heading for the garage when it comes to this piece of work, that or the printer's going to get a hammering.
The remainder of Saturday was cleaning stuff. I had some Rubber & Vinyl cleaner which I used successfully on Tabitha to cklean all the wiring loom and assorted plastic bits so did the same for Daysie. While I have yet to check any of the electrical system, at least everything looks clean now. I also used some parts washer solution and a rag to clean up the frame, engine and any other bits I could get to. I've still got cleaning to do, namely the wheels and those hard to get to bits at the back of the engine.
While cleaning the engine, quite a bit of the engine powder coating came off. Hardly surprising as it was sitting for so long. Most of it was around the front where antifreeze from the leaking radiator got to it. The water pump housing and the housing where the top hose goes in to the engine is also a bit ropey. It was also peeling off on the underside. Not sure what i'm going to do about this yet if anything as it's mostly covered by fairings, but as is my way, I won't be happy leaving it, so I'll have to clean it up & find some sort of engine paint just to tidy it up
Any suggestions that doesn't require removing the engine are greatly received.
On order and currently awaiting delivery is a socket big enough to remove teh rear wheel. It's a big bugger, 46mm and the torque setting for the nut is something over 100Nm, so as with the front sprocket nut, I think the torque gun is going to be let out of it's case, but that's for another time.
As for Daysie, she now has clean brake calipers after soaking them in diesel for 3 days. I've managed to get all the pistons out with no damage and although some of them are a bit 'crusry' around the top, where the dust seals sat, I'll give them a good clean with some fine wire wool. As I don't have to replace any of them it saves me around £120 to spend on other bits.
The rear subframe, mirror brackets and the magnesium dash intrument surround went off to the powder coaters on Saturday and should be back with me in 3 - 4 weeks. He's quoted me £142 which I didn't think was too bad.
In other news, I've removed the chain guard which was posing a problem with a couple of seized bolts, with a combination of Plusgas and mole grips. The clevis pin that attached the rear brake pedal to the rear master cylinder proved problematic. I had to remove the whole assembly and put it in the vice to try to free it up. Countless hours spent with a combination of Plusgas, pliers, molegrips and finally a hammer didn't budge it. Finally heat from my blowtorch and the hammer freed it up with no damage other than to said clevis pin.
The air box has also been removed after a fight to get it loose. It turns out Haynes Manuals do have their uses. the early Daytonas have a hidden bolt securing the front of the airbox to the frame. Another example of Triump's design mastery here, the bolt is tucked away behind the radiator and would have all but been impossible had I not already removed the radiator.
I was expecting to see three badly perished vacuum hoses running from the throttlw bodies to the IACV (for the uninitiated, the Idle Air Control Valve, which I've seen referenced as ICAV IVAC IAV and stepper motor in varoius places), and I wasn't surprised - at least with the state of the vacuum hoses, but unlike Tallulah Tiger, there was no IACV to be seen.
Turns out the IACV on early models is not sat above the throttle bodies as in later models but tucked under the throttle bodies behind the clutch actuator arm. Who knew. Looks like it's going to be a PITA to get to but as at least 4 of the 6 hose connectors are not connected and two of them seem to be bunged up with crud, it's got to come out to be checked & cleaned. I have a copy of the Triumph service manual on the PC so I can see the laptop heading for the garage when it comes to this piece of work, that or the printer's going to get a hammering.
The remainder of Saturday was cleaning stuff. I had some Rubber & Vinyl cleaner which I used successfully on Tabitha to cklean all the wiring loom and assorted plastic bits so did the same for Daysie. While I have yet to check any of the electrical system, at least everything looks clean now. I also used some parts washer solution and a rag to clean up the frame, engine and any other bits I could get to. I've still got cleaning to do, namely the wheels and those hard to get to bits at the back of the engine.
While cleaning the engine, quite a bit of the engine powder coating came off. Hardly surprising as it was sitting for so long. Most of it was around the front where antifreeze from the leaking radiator got to it. The water pump housing and the housing where the top hose goes in to the engine is also a bit ropey. It was also peeling off on the underside. Not sure what i'm going to do about this yet if anything as it's mostly covered by fairings, but as is my way, I won't be happy leaving it, so I'll have to clean it up & find some sort of engine paint just to tidy it up
Any suggestions that doesn't require removing the engine are greatly received.
On order and currently awaiting delivery is a socket big enough to remove teh rear wheel. It's a big bugger, 46mm and the torque setting for the nut is something over 100Nm, so as with the front sprocket nut, I think the torque gun is going to be let out of it's case, but that's for another time.
#2
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Best speedometer cable lub...
Last post by ssevy - Today at 02:14:59 AMThis Kable Ease product is thin and black, so I assume it is similar to all of the other graphite based products?
Not a grease for sure!
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Not a grease for sure!
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#3
Ride Reports / Re: Riding my Steamer NY to CA...
Last post by Madruss - August 06, 2022, 12:06:04 PMEpic trip mate.
Thanks for educating this tiger owning Aussie on a two way journey across your vast country.
I did my epic trip from Darwin NT to Sydney NSW on a '73 750 Ducati in 1978. Wrote it up a few years ago. Unfortunately very few photos survived.
Thanks for educating this tiger owning Aussie on a two way journey across your vast country.
I did my epic trip from Darwin NT to Sydney NSW on a '73 750 Ducati in 1978. Wrote it up a few years ago. Unfortunately very few photos survived.
#4
Other Triples / Re: Daysie's Diary
Last post by Sin_Tiger - August 05, 2022, 02:24:42 AMWhy this usually works, unless the pistons are rusted solid, is that old rubber seals that are hard have perished and will be easily softened by the diesel. The only thing to watch out for with the two pot sliding calipers is that the rubber seals for the carrier sliding pins will also be affected and will need replaced, unless you remove them before hand. With the four pots the internal O rings can be affected but most seal kits for those usually include new O rings.
#5
Other Triples / Re: Daysie's Diary
Last post by Lee337 - August 04, 2022, 08:07:20 PMGood call @Sin_Tiger, a couple of days soaking in diesel * nit only did the pistons come out of the rear caliper fairly easily, the caliper also looks nice & clean.
Will post up some pics at the weekend.
Will post up some pics at the weekend.
#6
Other Triples / Re: Not a Sprint
Last post by Sin_Tiger - August 04, 2022, 01:47:40 PMQuote from: London_Phil on August 04, 2022, 01:25:46 PMthe old Harley, who's carb is basically a funnel from the tank, with no adjustment except idle jet, which is easily reached, and has a big adjuster on the end, I really don't think I want Carbs again.
If you keep carb bikes today, I think one of the best investments you can make is an ultrasonic cleaner, send two sets of carbs to a specialist for cleaning and you can buy a decent machine with the same money
#7
Other Triples / Re: Not a Sprint
Last post by London_Phil - August 04, 2022, 01:25:46 PMI loved my Steamer, but oh dear me, the carbs.... Replaced them, changed from Mikunis to Keihins, never ran right unless used every day, and even then...
800XC, leave for a Month, hit the starter and good to go.., other than the old Harley, who's carb is basically a funnel from the tank, with no adjustment except idle jet, which is easily reached, and has a big adjuster on the end, I really don't think I want Carbs again.
800XC, leave for a Month, hit the starter and good to go.., other than the old Harley, who's carb is basically a funnel from the tank, with no adjustment except idle jet, which is easily reached, and has a big adjuster on the end, I really don't think I want Carbs again.
#8
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Best speedometer cable lub...
Last post by Lee337 - August 04, 2022, 11:51:10 AMDon't think I've ever oiled a cable - the clutch cable on the Tiger was a bit stiff when I got her, so I replaced it with a Slinky Glide cable, although I've noticed recently it feels a little stiff again. This could be down to riding first the Trophy with a hydraulic clutch and a relatively modern FJR which had a light clutch rather than a deterioration of the Tiger's clutch cable.
I also fairly recently had to replace the Trophy speedo cable after it broke.
Maybe I should reconsider my cable maintenance strategy.
I also fairly recently had to replace the Trophy speedo cable after it broke.
Maybe I should reconsider my cable maintenance strategy.
#9
Other Triples / Re: Not a Sprint
Last post by Lee337 - August 03, 2022, 11:26:11 PMDespite Tabitha being a 4 pot 1200, I actually prefer the 3 pot 955i engine.
Even with Tabitha Trophy being set up on a rolling road, she has less power than Tallulah Tiger.
I think you'll enjoy both the torque & power delivery when you get her sorted.
Even with Tabitha Trophy being set up on a rolling road, she has less power than Tallulah Tiger.
I think you'll enjoy both the torque & power delivery when you get her sorted.
#10
Other Triples / Not a Sprint
Last post by Sin_Tiger - August 03, 2022, 10:18:21 PMLike Lee, I've come over all EFI. If I'm honest, I've always had a love hate relationship with carbs, they never seem to do what they say on the tin, no matter how many articles I read about them.
While the 1200 4 pot Trophy has turned out well, although there's still a fair bit of work I want to do at the front end, she's proving very reliable, comfy and plenty quick enough, if a tad thirsty. I think she's still running a bit rich and may have to resort to a specialist with a rolling road to make a significant improvement.
Enough about Edna, the reason for this thread is to tell a bit of a story about the 1999 955i Sprint ST that I recently purchased.
I'd been looking around for a while and missed a couple when there were a few on the market locally at sensible money. That seems to have changed, not sure if it's just the time of year or people are starting to realise how under rated they are compared to used VFR's of the same era. Never having owned a 955i, I managed to blag a ride on a friends high mileage (80k miles) Sprint ST. I was suitably impressed, if this is how a high miler performs
, the riding position (all be it with 25mm bar risers) was a lot more comfortable than I was expecting and the weather protection more than adequate for long rides, I was sold 
I really would have liked to have gotten an Aston Green version, I've only seen a couple and I think that colour suits the bike as opposed to traditional BRG. Failing that my next choice was for the Pacific Blue, the red looks a bit Mondeo to me and the silver a bit too VW. I had already narrowed my search down to an average mileage at a price that reflected how much work / money I'd have to throw at it and had a preference for the earlier Gen 1 even despite the Gen 2 being quite a bit up on power. If it already had panniers, so much the better but not a show stopper as I have a stock of bits that I could put together to make that work.
When this one came up, I got in touch with the then owner and established he was a decent sort, was open and forthcoming about the bike and what he told me about his ownership and what little history he knew, which was reflected in the MoT history. I decided to do a detour on my way home from a short break on the east coast in Brora to visit him in Arbroath. It turned out to be worthwhile, bike was pretty much as described, a bit scruffy around the edges but nothing that suggested it shouldn't own the MoT that was about to expire. It started and ran as expected, we went into a bit more detail about the not so good bits and he wasn't precious or dismissive. We struck a deal, on the agreement that he'd keep the bike until I could arrange to collect it and pay the balance, since he already had a bike that he was more comfortable with, he was happy and more so that it wasn't going to get broken for spares, nobody wants to hear that
Several weeks later with a friends trailer hitched up and cash in my pocket, we made the 3.5 hr trip across country to collect it, the MoT had expired and there were more parts than I could carry on the back of it. Otherwise it was a perfectly roadworthy machine and bless that man, rather than just leaving it at the back of his abode, he'd taken it for a ride around on private roads to keep everything operating correctly.
With it back home and tucked up in the garage I made initial assessments and am trying very hard to stick to my plan of getting two of my other bikes moved on before taking anything apart, hence the Title, this isn't going to be a fast turn around.
What have I got? It's all there and working, nothing "hingin aff", the panniers and mountings that came with it unfitted have seen the rough end of a rattle can and wasn't 100% complete but I managed to put together all the bits needed to get the job done. The tyres are fairly recent and hardly worn, the shock appears to be a Nitron replacement, the forks are OK but need new seals which came in the deal, brakes are all working fine, there's a Scottoiler but the under seat position isn't ideal, no heated grips, it has a dark tint double bubble screen and an after market spoiler which I'm not sure I'll need, an almost new top box which will probably get moved on, it already has 25mm bar risers which is a bonus and the R&G frame sliders. There are a few scratches as you'd expect but no "tarmac tartan" on the side panels, a handful of small non structural cracks that are fixable, the Scorpion end can has a few dints in it and could probably benefit from a repack, the tank has a few bubbles but not as bad as some I've seen. The belly pan is a good replacement that has been repainted properly and is a good match for the rest of the bodywork , it's suspected the reason for this is that some previous owner has been bumping it over a high kerb, which also explains why the downpipes have heat bandage wrapping and why it came with a good used replacement downpipe. The battery, although charging up OK, will beat me to a care home by a long way. The fuel gauge was showing full and I immediately assumed it was faulty wiring as they are prone to that but to my surprise when I popped the filler open it looks to be less than 1 litre off brim full, whether the gauge actually reflects the contents is yet to be proven, hands up anyone who has bought a used bike with a full tank
no I didn't think so 
Well, it's now under a cover and I'm doing my best to keep it that way for a while, so don't hold your breath.
While the 1200 4 pot Trophy has turned out well, although there's still a fair bit of work I want to do at the front end, she's proving very reliable, comfy and plenty quick enough, if a tad thirsty. I think she's still running a bit rich and may have to resort to a specialist with a rolling road to make a significant improvement.
Enough about Edna, the reason for this thread is to tell a bit of a story about the 1999 955i Sprint ST that I recently purchased.
I'd been looking around for a while and missed a couple when there were a few on the market locally at sensible money. That seems to have changed, not sure if it's just the time of year or people are starting to realise how under rated they are compared to used VFR's of the same era. Never having owned a 955i, I managed to blag a ride on a friends high mileage (80k miles) Sprint ST. I was suitably impressed, if this is how a high miler performs
, the riding position (all be it with 25mm bar risers) was a lot more comfortable than I was expecting and the weather protection more than adequate for long rides, I was sold I really would have liked to have gotten an Aston Green version, I've only seen a couple and I think that colour suits the bike as opposed to traditional BRG. Failing that my next choice was for the Pacific Blue, the red looks a bit Mondeo to me and the silver a bit too VW. I had already narrowed my search down to an average mileage at a price that reflected how much work / money I'd have to throw at it and had a preference for the earlier Gen 1 even despite the Gen 2 being quite a bit up on power. If it already had panniers, so much the better but not a show stopper as I have a stock of bits that I could put together to make that work.
When this one came up, I got in touch with the then owner and established he was a decent sort, was open and forthcoming about the bike and what he told me about his ownership and what little history he knew, which was reflected in the MoT history. I decided to do a detour on my way home from a short break on the east coast in Brora to visit him in Arbroath. It turned out to be worthwhile, bike was pretty much as described, a bit scruffy around the edges but nothing that suggested it shouldn't own the MoT that was about to expire. It started and ran as expected, we went into a bit more detail about the not so good bits and he wasn't precious or dismissive. We struck a deal, on the agreement that he'd keep the bike until I could arrange to collect it and pay the balance, since he already had a bike that he was more comfortable with, he was happy and more so that it wasn't going to get broken for spares, nobody wants to hear that
Several weeks later with a friends trailer hitched up and cash in my pocket, we made the 3.5 hr trip across country to collect it, the MoT had expired and there were more parts than I could carry on the back of it. Otherwise it was a perfectly roadworthy machine and bless that man, rather than just leaving it at the back of his abode, he'd taken it for a ride around on private roads to keep everything operating correctly.
With it back home and tucked up in the garage I made initial assessments and am trying very hard to stick to my plan of getting two of my other bikes moved on before taking anything apart, hence the Title, this isn't going to be a fast turn around.
What have I got? It's all there and working, nothing "hingin aff", the panniers and mountings that came with it unfitted have seen the rough end of a rattle can and wasn't 100% complete but I managed to put together all the bits needed to get the job done. The tyres are fairly recent and hardly worn, the shock appears to be a Nitron replacement, the forks are OK but need new seals which came in the deal, brakes are all working fine, there's a Scottoiler but the under seat position isn't ideal, no heated grips, it has a dark tint double bubble screen and an after market spoiler which I'm not sure I'll need, an almost new top box which will probably get moved on, it already has 25mm bar risers which is a bonus and the R&G frame sliders. There are a few scratches as you'd expect but no "tarmac tartan" on the side panels, a handful of small non structural cracks that are fixable, the Scorpion end can has a few dints in it and could probably benefit from a repack, the tank has a few bubbles but not as bad as some I've seen. The belly pan is a good replacement that has been repainted properly and is a good match for the rest of the bodywork , it's suspected the reason for this is that some previous owner has been bumping it over a high kerb, which also explains why the downpipes have heat bandage wrapping and why it came with a good used replacement downpipe. The battery, although charging up OK, will beat me to a care home by a long way. The fuel gauge was showing full and I immediately assumed it was faulty wiring as they are prone to that but to my surprise when I popped the filler open it looks to be less than 1 litre off brim full, whether the gauge actually reflects the contents is yet to be proven, hands up anyone who has bought a used bike with a full tank
no I didn't think so Well, it's now under a cover and I'm doing my best to keep it that way for a while, so don't hold your breath.
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