At Donington this weekend and this is the good side!!!,but a 1000cc!! missed the boat already.
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This look was pioneered by Honda with the Varadero :icon_wink:
Nope, imho BMW in 1993 when they introduced the R 1100 GS.
Must admit I was thinking about topic title just recently. The bikes I think really look good are the supersports. Lovely to look at but less so to ride in the real world. The allroaders are more the other way, just ride the crap out of them so you don't have to look at them :hat10
Although the KTM 990 adventure looks pretty cool :pimp
Was wondering why there is more scaffolding on display when ever a new model comes out. Perhaps I am getting old.
Quote from: metalguru on May 29, 2013, 07:41:11 PM
Was wondering why there is more scaffolding on display when ever a new model comes out. Perhaps I am getting old.
Think you'll find it's the only one and hence why they don't want anyone sitting on it,I haven't forgotten my days at Ducati,took the one and only Hypermotard to Snetterton bike is on it's side stand on Saturday we are stood next too it having a cupper with our backs turned,10 year clambers on it(not the side stand side) and pulls it over and makes a real mess,mom and dad turn up,not a sorry not a kiss my arse and say 'Should have been bolted down' and walk off.
As for the bike,the Japs drive me nuts,they have the ability to design and build over night and they churn something like this out,the motor is 200cc too small,and the otherside I couldn't bring myself to photograph,without doubt there is a market for a budget twin and then they go and shoot e'mselves in the foot with this horror with a 10 year old motor.
Not knowing the power of the thing but it could be something to do with the new A2 licence, as the Tiger 800 can be restricted easily too. The Honda 125 varadero never ceases to amaze me how it actually pulls itself along, it is a big bike for its size!
Can just imagine H+S getting hold of that nowadays.
Meant the scaffolding the bikes made of!!!!!
:thumbsup
I'm guessing there's an exhaust can the size of a small dustbin on the other side then? :hat10
No problem, good for the aftermarket can suppliers :icon_wink:
Quote from: metalguru on May 29, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
Meant the scaffolding the bikes made of!!!!!
:thumbsup
Finally, someones on the same wave length.
I mentioned this when i first saw the new Tiger 800`s, looks unfinished to me.
Quote from: Chris Canning on May 29, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
the motor is 200cc too small
1000cc is plenty for me in this part of the world. While I appreciate big displacement for superslab grinding, my biggest beef is the, well, the beef. All these new bikes are massive porkers...at least 100lbs overweight. Instead of 150hp and 600lbs, give me 80-100hp and 400lbs. Well controlled long travel suspension, roomy ergos, and big fuel tank also a must.
Quote from: JTT on May 30, 2013, 02:42:39 AM
Quote from: Chris Canning on May 29, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
the motor is 200cc too small
1000cc is plenty for me in this part of the world. While I appreciate big displacement for superslab grinding, my biggest beef is the, well, the beef. All these new bikes are massive porkers...at least 100lbs overweight. Instead of 150hp and 600lbs, give me 80-100hp and 400lbs. Well controlled long travel suspension, roomy ergos, and big fuel tank also a must.
Problem being what you want doesn't sell,ask KTM hence why they have gone from their 1000 to the new big banger.
Also what is rarely mentioned if at all,I/we certainly wouldn't need a bigger/faster bike if modern day cars hadn't become so much faster,a modern day 2.0L turbo diesel car is a difficult thing to deal with, with a 10 year old big traillie,note I said difficult not impossible.
It's only since Ducati brought the Multi out that the great taboo has been broken in,with the fact why should a big traillie be slow????,I'm not suggesting that everyone wants to ride around at 150mph but the option does make life easier from time to time as I've found out on my K,I get treated with a lot more respect by other road users when they realise the speed of the thing and get far less hassle.
Can't Suzuki just put a 1200 sticker on the tank? Who is going to measure bore & stroke anyway :pottytrain2
I guess the manufacturer's are bringing out more powerful bikes to compensate for motorcyclists penis's getting smaller.
Quote from: NKL on May 30, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
I guess the manufacturer's are bringing out more powerful bikes to compensate for motorcyclists penis's getting smaller.
Well I guess you can only speak as you find!! :icon_lol:
Quote from: Chris Canning on May 30, 2013, 09:39:24 AM
Problem being what you want doesn't sell,ask KTM hence why they have gone from their 1000 to the new big banger.
Also what is rarely mentioned if at all,I/we certainly wouldn't need a bigger/faster bike if modern day cars hadn't become so much faster,a modern day 2.0L turbo diesel car is a difficult thing to deal with, with a 10 year old big traillie,note I said difficult not impossible.
It's only since Ducati brought the Multi out that the great taboo has been broken in,with the fact why should a big traillie be slow????,I'm not suggesting that everyone wants to ride around at 150mph but the option does make life easier from time to time as I've found out on my K,I get treated with a lot more respect by other road users when they realise the speed of the thing and get far less hassle.
:iagree :thumbsup
The Tiger can deal with traffic, but I have to think about it. The 'Bird is a lot less effort. Like Chris's "K" it just looks fast coming up behind folks so they tend to make room. The HID helps too....
Quote from: NKL on May 30, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
I guess the manufacturer's are bringing out more powerful bikes to compensate for motorcyclists penis's getting smaller.
:eusa_clap
I like power as much as the next guy, but hate the fact with that always seems to come extreme bulk.
do not know about Fugly but I do know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder or is that beer holder :icon_scratch: :occasion14
Quote from: Dutch on May 30, 2013, 11:54:42 AM
Can't Suzuki just put a 1200 sticker on the tank? Who is going to measure bore & stroke anyway :pottytrain2
By the way, that might seem a bit
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but BMW did simular with the F650 GS twin and current F700 GS. Both have a 800 cc engine but for marketing reasons BMW named it 650/700. So why not other way around, name larger then displacement :hat10
Quote from: JTT on May 31, 2013, 02:42:27 AM
Quote from: NKL on May 30, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
I guess the manufacturer's are bringing out more powerful bikes to compensate for motorcyclists penis's getting smaller.
:eusa_clap
I like power as much as the next guy, but hate the fact with that always seems to come extreme bulk.
Funny you should say that!!,I rode a Multistrada 18 months ago,I remember it being fast and a suspension set up that took me 10 years to achieve and that was it,I have a Multistrada in the garage for a couple of days and side by side and moving the bikes about the garage my 955 feels like a tank,the Multi is like a bicycle,not sure which I'm the more shocked about missing it first time or now.
I hear ya Chris. I had a chance to ride a new style Multi too, very impressive.
To try and give a balanced view having been out on it this afternoon,the bike is a little hyper,as a traillie has performance beyond your wildest dreams,but I'm not sure about doing a long day on one(500 miles +),an over geared 955 is a very pleasant experience over a distance riding a twin would certainly take some getting used too,as would the small tank both fuel wise and the size of the bag you could plonk on the top,and typical traillie,looks good from the right side but the left!! oh dear.
Oh forgot center stand!!! best one I've used,and the active suspension blimey now that is different. :icon_scratch:
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on May 29, 2013, 03:06:21 AM
This look was pioneered by Honda with the Varadero :icon_wink:
Should have went to Specsavers ! it looks nothing like a Vara ! its more like a Multistrada.
Ok so I'll stick my neck on the chopping block, not being one to follow the crowd, I like it :icon_biggrin:
It's IMO far better looking than a Girly, and the seat/rear end looks a much better set up than on a 1050 Tiger
Quote from: qbto on June 01, 2013, 10:24:02 AM
Ok so I'll stick my neck on the chopping block, not being one to follow the crowd, I like it :icon_biggrin:
It's IMO far better looking than a Girly, and the seat/rear end looks a much better set up than on a 1050 Tiger
That explains it, you were looking sideways at it :icon_razz:
Wasn't comparing the Vara to anything else, other than saying it was not a pretty looking bike, like many other Pig Traillies in my opinion. Put it this way, I was happier riding it than looking at it.
OK I'll put my pennyworth in, I think the Girly isn't pretty but I would much rather have that than any of the last few years crop of "insect" style bikes, I think they're horrible, they look just thrown together.