Went for a nice run today as the storms have finally eased up, Sun shining, mostly blue sky, not too cold or windy... 85 miles later and plenty of dirt tracks I still couldn't get the thing dirty - I think I have a self-cleaning Tiger!
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ManOMan......She sure is a beauty! :thumbsup
Thanks, but I can't take credit for it as thats how I bought it :icon_smile:
Quote from: JayDub on February 16, 2014, 08:22:04 PM
I think I have a self-cleaning Tiger!
If thtat's a bolt on accessory I want one too :icon_lol:
Now that I see those cans as part of the whole bike, they look soooo right, way bettter than the originals, look like they were made for the bike :icon_scratch:
They certainly look the business eh Niall, gotta pull those carbs out tho' its just not right at low speed, because of the weight its embarrassing to turn around, got to put me feet down sometimes!
Good looking bike!
Like the wheels, those are Girly wheels including the bigger front discs! Wonder how the calipers are made to fit... :icon_biggrin:
Also the rear suspension height of your bike seems adjusted looking at the `dogbones`
Quote from: dave NL on February 19, 2014, 09:50:24 AM
Good looking bike!
Like the wheels, those are Girly wheels including the bigger front discs! Wonder how the calipers are made to fit... :icon_biggrin:
Also the rear suspension height of your bike seems adjusted looking at the `dogbones`
Thanks for that Dave, I didn't know! the PO said the rear wheel was replaced with a wider one, the callipers look normal - no adapter plates etc, he did lower the rear suspension, ( I would have made those `dogbones` a bit more attractive tho), I'm now thinking what to look for when replacing the pads, or are those the original callipers - they look it.
You got me thinking now Dave (I don't usually on a Wednesday), there are small signs of crash damage on the bike... cracked left aux airbox, 1" hole in bottom of right hand-guard like a scrape, the l/h engine cover looks older than the rest of the engine, cracked r/h fork guard hidden by sticker, l/h side panel replaced by an originally blue one... So are the forks also from a girly then? The bars are not straight when travelling in a straight line so I'm now wondering about the yokes! :icon_scratch:
The forks a standard steamer ones, the drain plug is there at the bottom. The stanchions can bended a bit, you can put the front wheel between your legs and bend it back, dont ask how i know :augie
The front discs are for sure Girly ones, looks like the caliper brakets are put back together upside down to make it fit. On the steamer the long mounting point on the fork is the lower one, on the Girly this is the upper one.
The Girly wheels have stainless spokes, the steamer zinc plated steel spokes, this is easy to see on the bike.
Can you make a closer picture of the caliper mounting? :icon_biggrin:
On ebay many parts are up for sale, within a couple months some scars can be removed :icon_smile:
I'll get a close-up tomorrow Dave, the rear does have stainless spokes but the front are painted black, they're definately Girly discs and I tried loosening the fork clamps and spindle then twisting the forks straight then re-tightening it all but they are still out of line, that's what makes me think that the yokes could be bent - but it still rides nicely. I don't worry too much about a bikes history as long as its all safe, and all the little battle scars just add to its character - just think how boring it would be if EVERYONE'S bike was in mint, showroom condition, that's why my other bike is a rat-bike.
Quote from: dave NL on February 19, 2014, 07:51:58 PM
The forks a standard steamer ones, the drain plug is there at the bottom.
Beat me to the answer Dave :thumbsup
The rear rim has probably been replaced when the original corroded away at the spoke penetrations, common, just surprised if the front is original, usually they go first. DID (original) appeared to have been made of a type of cheese, probably French cheese as the Dutch stuff is much stronger :augie
I've a collection of bit's that I'm not likely to use soon, might help with tidying things up that are irking you, will have a chat over a cofffee in March :icon_wink:
Stainless+aluminium is always an iffy combo - or most dissimilar metals - especially when salt gets in there. The front rim is OK around the spoke seats, and thanks for that Niall, can I make a list :icon_lol:
Also, here's some calliper pics for Dave...
Ah, the pictures tell a lot. Looks like the same blacksmith of the suspension linkage created the caliper mounting plates :icon_wink:
It was the last owner who did the suspension mod and he said that was as far as his engineering capabilities would stretch... I think maybe the same fabricator as the exhaust can caps - a bit more skilful... (that's coming from a qualified fabricator/welder btw) I would have used Dural meself to avoid the rust. :augie
A thought :sign13 I've sometimes felt this bike to be slightly undergeared, and since the rear wheel is apparently from a Girly then is it pos that the Girly runs a different size rear sprocket, and that has come with the wheel? methinks I have some tooth counting to do :blah
Normally the wheels come without the sprocket carrier. I would guess the stock one is fitted in place. It droppes right in the Girly wheel.
I do understand what you mean, a little smaller rear sprocket would not hurt regarding gearing ratio. On the highway the bike seems a bit high in revs. Will cost some torque by mounting a smaller sprocket. :icon_mrgreen:
QuoteWill cost some torque
We are in the fortunate position of having an adequate amount :icon_mrgreen:
No I've sussed it, he's going for the 5k :XXcomputer
For Girlies, going up to 19 front and doing the airbox mod is the way forward, ask Chris. Stock rear is 46 T
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on February 21, 2014, 10:12:55 AM
For Girlies, going up to 19 front and doing the airbox mod is the way forward, ask Chris. Stock rear is 46 T
:icon_scratch: are you lost again?
No I've sussed it, he's going for 5k posts :XXcomputer :icon_lol:
Erm, thanks Bob :icon_confused: As for steamers... is it normally 48/18 sprockets, mine seems to want to be in the gear below most of the time like its under stress, but over 50 it flies - sometimes I think I'm doing 60 but its actually 80-85 :icon_lol:
Out of curiosity,is a 19t avail for the Steamer? If so,has anyone tried it?
Quote from: threepot on February 21, 2014, 06:57:15 PM
Out of curiosity,is a 19t avail for the Steamer? If so,has anyone tried it?
I've not tried one but 17 and 19 are available for the steamer, Also variations for the rear...
http://www.triumphparts.gbr.cc/index.php/26/435298/
And has Sin_Tiger spoken to you re the Ponderosa on 9th March?
As I suspected... The rear sprocket is a 44 tooth, that would account for the odd feeling low in the rev range, I have not checked the front due to the faffing about needed to get to it but I suppose its pos that someone would also fit a 19 tooth on the front in their quest to gain more acceleration... am I thinking right? :icon_rolleyes:
A bigger sprocket on the front benefits high up in the rev range,yes? Fancy trying one for touring. But will probably lose the nice pick up from nothing,and just being able to roll on and off in top gear. So really,I've just talked myself out of this idea :icon_scratch:
From 48 to 44 is quit a big step. It will lower the revs relative to speed. But torque will be sacrificed.
If i would change anything i would not even touch the front sprocket, but only tinker with the rear one, probably 46 will do just fine to lower the revs a bit. It is the opposite with the front sprocket, smaller more torque and revs and bigger les tor, well you get the idea.
I also thought about this mod, but im leaving it stock, it is a part of the whole character of the bike i think.
Quote from: threepot on February 23, 2014, 12:25:33 AM
A bigger sprocket on the front benefits high up in the rev range,yes? Fancy trying one for touring. But will probably lose the nice pick up from nothing,and just being able to roll on and off in top gear. So really,I've just talked myself out of this idea :icon_scratch:
that's the prob I now have, well all of those really, Its an almost new Renthall C&S set as well so to make myself happy I'm gonna have to fork out 25 quid for a 48 tooth rear - bummer! - but yes, don't do it unless you're going on a big hike, even then if fully loaded you'll be up and down the box on all but dual carriage ways and motorways.
Quote from: dave NL on February 23, 2014, 09:56:55 AM
From 48 to 44 is quit a big step. It will lower the revs relative to speed. But torque will be sacrificed.
If i would change anything i would not even touch the front sprocket, but only tinker with the rear one, probably 46 will do just fine to lower the revs a bit. It is the opposite with the front sprocket, smaller more torque and revs and bigger les tor, well you get the idea.
I also thought about this mod, but im leaving it stock, it is a part of the whole character of the bike i think.
:iagree I would prefer to stay with the OE set-up as I don't do a lot of high speed touring atm, I avoid motorways if I can (too boring) The twisties are far more interesting so I just allow more time to get there, and if needs arise I can always tweek.
HA! it gets even better... I only counted half of the rear sprocket teeth at first as I couldn't be arsed getting the paddock stand from the shed, but now I've checked properly I find that the rear is not 44 but actually.................... 42 TEETH!!!! - AND the front sprocket is..................17 TEETH!!! :bug_eye
I think the PO has probably gone over to a sports bike by now :icon_scratch:
No wonder it felt so crap at low speed.
:bug_eye :icon_scratch:
Quote from: JayDub on February 23, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
HA! it gets even better... I only counted half of the rear sprocket teeth at first as I couldn't be arsed getting the paddock stand from the shed, but now I've checked properly I find that the rear is not 44 but actually.................... 42 TEETH!!!! - AND the front sprocket is..................17 TEETH!!! :bug_eye
I think the PO has probably gone over to a sports bike by now :icon_scratch:
No wonder it felt so crap at low speed.
So you could go to a std fr..18? But that rear does seem small? A bigger front will also lift the chain a little from swingarm :thumbsup Worth a go considering the small cost. What about chain length?
Ah! I didn't consider the chain length, if I go to a 48 rear and 18 front then it's not gonna be long enough, and I wasn't gonna put the sidestand/sprocket cover back til I had fitted the new sprocket so I can't count the links :icon_mad:
You might get away with the chain you have if you go up to 18t? Chain does slack off a lot when you turn adjusters. Worth a go. Think std chain is 114 links?
Quote from: JayDub on February 23, 2014, 12:35:38 PM
The twisties are far more interesting so ........... :blah :blah :blah
this type of riding begs for 17/48 , she will embarrass squids on yamahas in the twisties .
it's also what I run on the hack .
18/48 combo will put you around 4500 rpm at 65 mph in 6th
17/48 will boost rpm by 500 at same speed
I want to put a 48 on the rear though, and that's quite a step up from 42, even if I keep the 17 front as mustang suggests, I can't see that happening as the chain must have been shortened to get to the current configuration?
Count it,std 114 links? Personally,I wouldn't go 17t on the front
Yes Mustang,std combo is good. I still think that Triumph should have put the 900 Trident engine and gearing into the Tiger. Another bike you could just leave in top and ride,with a bit more up top. Great bike :icon_smile
Off the subject..how do you think Trident cams would work in the Tiger without changing the ecu?
Stuff it! I've just ordered a DID X-Ring standard C&S kit, its worth 90 quid to save messing about and if the other chain does have enough length then I have a spare.... 'tis all part of the trials and tribulations of our passion - innit chaps? :icon_biggrin:
Can't threepot, - can't turn the wheel!... the bikes part dismantled and leaning over coz I didn't want to lose me new oil :icon_rolleyes:
Thats a bloody good price for DID Gold Xring kit. Bet you can't wait to try it :thumbsup. I've just fitted new Tourance EXP and rear bearings to mine. One of the bearings was seized to the spindle! Took me 3hrs and a lot of hammering to get it out. Took it to a friends engineering shop,had to grind it off. Even an hydraulic press couldn't shift it. PO hadn't greased it up :icon_evil: No wonder I couldn't get the adjusters to fit nice in the swing/arm.Took it out yesterday around Llynn Brianne Dam. Bike is transformed!
PS,have you got a new gearshift/shaft seal,before puting the sprocket case back on? :augie
Mine is weeping,new one next oil change.
I've now corrected my typo's threepot :icon_redface: stiil can't wait to try it with proper gearing :icon_biggrin: no I haven't got a seal... I should tho' - looking into it now :icon_wink: Damn PO's need shooting :icon_mad:
Where you at up North? Was up there a couple yrs back for my 50th. Didn't have Tiger then..on my Super3.
Quote from: threepot on February 23, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
Where you at up North? Was up there a couple yrs back for my 50th. Didn't have Tiger then..on my Super3.
About 4 miles east of Bangor, only got mine beginning of Dec - luv it!
That makes no sense, the 42 tooth rear would raise the gearing, meaning a faster speed for a lower rev, but the front would drop the gearing, so that works against each other. :icon_scratch:
Perhaps the PO had similar problems with his mathematics as he had with his brackets :augie
Off topic for a minute; Jaydub, I'll be at Circuite de Anglesey for the CRMC meet 13-15 May. Worth a look if only to drool over the old bikes.
Its a possible wedding in Liverpool on those dates Bob, (no not mine) You can probably guess MY preference but old bikes vs family - you know :icon_rolleyes: I may have got my dates wrong tho'.
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 24, 2014, 11:40:43 AM
Perhaps the PO had similar problems with his mathematics as he had with his brackets :augie
:icon_lol: That's why I'm concerned about the carb set-up Niall :icon_eek: And looking at the gnarly condition of the front sprocket (JT), I guess he couldn't be arsed taking off the sprocket cover and just fitted the new (Renthall) rear sprocket and pulled the new (Renthall) chain through using the old chain... Classy!
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on February 24, 2014, 01:49:54 PM
Off topic for a minute; Jaydub, I'll be at Circuite de Anglesey for the CRMC meet 13-15 May. Worth a look if only to drool over the old bikes.
Hey Bob! According to the Trac Mon and the CRMC sites, the meet is on 14-15 June... not May or did I miss something?
Sorry yes, you're right, it's JUNE. We're at Lydden in May,
OK, I'll probably be up for that! (Anglesey that is)
We're there the end of August for the 24hr