In preparation for the new Metal Fuel Fittings arriving in the next couple of days, I must be lucky, both came out complete. You can tell the new one the garage fitted just before I picked it up, and to be fair the other one didnt leak until it was disconnected, the valve was stuck.
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Think I may have found the source of the less than perfect idle, oh well, £40 a set apparently :icon_frown:
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Be gone, foul thing
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Another Aldi Bargain, £4.99 with batteries!!!
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So, just gotta wait for a few bits, gonna put a new Chain and Sprocket set on while im at it, the front sprocket is seriously finned. This is what Ive missed, good ol fashioned spannering :icon_wink:
Don't bother with Triumphs vac pipe unless you must have originality, just buy some silicon pipe from e bay.
Quote from: John Stenhouse on February 07, 2016, 03:55:58 PM
Don't bother with Triumphs vac pipe unless you must have originality, just buy some silicon pipe from e bay.
Thanks John, hadnt even thought that there was something aftermarket that would do the job, so this silicone stuff is ok with tight bends?
Don't bin the scottoiler... i'll have it! :nod
Quote from: John Stenhouse on February 07, 2016, 03:55:58 PM
Don't bother with Triumphs vac pipe unless you must have originality, just buy some silicon pipe from e bay.
:iagree I agree... except I would buy some automotive fuel / emissions tubing. I use 1/4" I.D. without clamps.
- Sorry if you can't find that exact size in UK.
- Very common stuff here in USA. We call it "vac tube" here. :icon_razz:
Quote from: Timbox2 on February 07, 2016, 04:57:17 PM
Thanks John, hadnt even thought that there was something aftermarket that would do the job, so this silicone stuff is ok with tight bends?
You are right, the vacuum tubing will be tight and pinch itself on the left throttle body (facing front). You will need to get a 90º elbow with barbed ends... to make the turn.
UPDATE: I originally had too large I.D. posted. The 1/4" (6.4mm) is the correct size for vacuum tube. :icon_redface:
Quote from: JayDub on February 07, 2016, 06:26:08 PM
Don't bin the scottoiler... i'll have it! :nod
Its yours mate.
Quote from: Timbox2 on February 07, 2016, 06:58:37 PM
Its yours mate.
Faster than a rat up a drain pipe :thumbsup and beat me to it :icon_wink:
getting there, metal fuel fittings turned up today, (Ordered Saturday, pretty impressed)
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All in position, just waiting for the ISCV pipes, yes I ordered genuine from Jack Lilley. That old chair fits the mounting cut outs on the tank exactly,couldnt believe it.
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Quote from: Timbox2 on February 08, 2016, 07:18:18 PM
getting there, metal fuel fittings turned up today, (Ordered Saturday, pretty impressed)
Your fittings look really good. :thumbsup
Did you get metal elbows or are those just for your nurse tubes?
Quote from: Timbox2 on February 08, 2016, 07:18:18 PM
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Small world- I have that exact high tech tank stand in Kindergarten Yellow! After a mishap that resulted in a few scratches to my 10 year old no-longer-pristine tank, the legs are now bolted to a square of plywood, and bungee straps secure the tank through pass-throughs drilled in the back of the
chair "tank stand".
Quote from: JoeDirt on February 08, 2016, 08:49:09 PM
Your fittings look really good. :thumbsup
Did you get metal elbows or are those just for your nurse tubes?
Bikes already got metal elbows. I got plastic fittings for the extension pipes, didnt see any point in fitting metal to them
Nice new Vac pipes turned up
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This also courtesy of Chris, cheers mate( Brass Elbow)
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I fitted the new vac pipes then started her up, blimey night and day difference, but checked the TB balance anyway which was as near as damn it so left alone. Then moved on to draining and refilling cooling system, which seemed very like water, no colour to it at all.
Then just before Chris phoned to check Id got the brass elbow, the fun suddenly started, out of the blue bike refuses to start, I disconnected the fuel extension hoses and then realised that the fuel rail didnt seem to have any fuel in it, puzzling, pump is definitely priming, but then I connected a hose to the feed and pointed it into a fuel can and cycled the ignition, barely more than a dribble, so looks like something up in tank, maybe a pipes come off or summit, dunno, ran out of time, round 2 tomorrow.
Off to get the stuff I forgot for Pancakes, in the doghouse. :icon_eek:
Quote from: JayDub on February 07, 2016, 06:26:08 PM
Don't bin the scottoiler... i'll have it! :nod
Don't do it mate. I seriously wouldn't EVER fit one to another one of my bikes. Had one on a Superdream and due to the pipe splitting it made that cylinder run weak and I didn't find out until I came to service it but by then the damage had been done (knackered rings). I use what's called a PDOiler. It's electrical, it's cheaper than the Scott and it can pump upwards so more options with fitting it. And I believe there's been issues with people fitting them to new bikes and then the bike manufacturer not honouring the warranty but you'd have to check that. Carn't remember were I got that from. BUT MY ADVICE IS DON'T FIT A SCOTTOILER.
Hmmm, just spent another half hour taking the pump plate off, nothing obvious. Then took the pump off itself and gave it 12v, it spins, very quietly mind, but Im not sure its doing much, cant get any real pressure build up if I hold my finger over the outlet, but then air is air and not liquid??
Under EU regs they can't do that unless they can prove that is what's causing a fault.
Unscientific but if it won't give a percetible pressure even with air, I'd say it's gubbed.
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 10, 2016, 01:37:03 AM
Unscientific but if it won't give a percetible pressure even with air, I'd say it's gubbed.
Mine too, pump plate assy already bought from fleabay, will see on Friday hopefully
Ok, new old pump has arrived, Im gagging to find out whether Ive diagnosed right but Its gonna have to wait till the weekend, too many late nights in me man cave(Garage). Horrible drive tomorrow over to Pembrokeshire(Nice on a bike in summer)
Oh yeah, and having seen Bixxers timely reminder thread I took my rear caliper apart last night, just caught it I think so filled the boots with RED Grease. Fronts next, yuck.
She lives, yea!!!!!!!!!!!!
She leaks, Booooooo.
Fired up almost straight away with the new, old, pump. Then let her warm up to check for leaks etc after the coolant swap, and hey ho, bottom hose leaking from rad end, clip was quite loose so gave it a tighten, and it got worse..... seems to be split directly behind the hose clip. I'll get some hose repair tape for now but I've ordered a new hose from Jack Lilley, not in stock so could be a few days, and its £34!!
One step forward, now you know why and looking on the bright side (not a speciality of mine :augie ) the hose could have gone during a trip, spoiling it for you.
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 12, 2016, 07:13:27 PM
One step forward, now you know why and looking on the bright side (not a speciality of mine :augie ) the hose could have gone during a trip, spoiling it for you.
Yep, but actually I wasnt thinking right, Ive managed to undo the clip and push the hose on further and re-tighten on a good bit, Ive run her right up to the fan kicking in and no leaks, yippee again, new hose is already on the way so I'll still fit it when it comes, 13 year old hoses so expected really, suppose I should replace the lot really, only another £70 odd!!!
OK so, everything is looking good, cant get Tune ECU to connect but Im not worried for now, tickover seems pretty good etc. I was thinking about doing the sasquatch charging mod while I was in there but, Im getting 14.4v on tickover, and even if I put everything on including grips it only drops to 13.8v so think I'll leave well alone.
Nice dry day now please
So, stripped the front calipers and cleaned pistons etc, red grease in the boots, but actually pretty good nick and EBC pads in there look hardly worn, then couldnt resist given her a quick shake down run up the dual carriageway. Kin ell, forgot how quick these old Girlies can be, she is roaring. Ok, so I spent the last year and a bit on an F800GS, but I never actually thought the GS was terribly underpowered, but the Tiger seems in a different league, very happy bunny. :hat10
Next task for later in the week
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Went into MR Motorcycles in Redfield, Bristol who I have used for years and showed him an ebay add for the above chain and sprocket kit at £92, he matched it and went a quid lower. He made a few more quid and I felt better for keeping a proper old Bike shop going.
Good bloke, does caliper seal kits by piston size, fork seals and all sorts of other stuff...............http://www.mrmotorcycles.com/
Quote from: aesdj on February 09, 2016, 10:29:44 PM
Don't do it mate. I seriously wouldn't EVER fit one to another one of my bikes. Had one on a Superdream and due to the pipe splitting it made that cylinder run weak and I didn't find out until I came to service it but by then the damage had been done (knackered rings). I use what's called a PDOiler. It's electrical, it's cheaper than the Scott and it can pump upwards so more options with fitting it. And I believe there's been issues with people fitting them to new bikes and then the bike manufacturer not honouring the warranty but you'd have to check that. Carn't remember were I got that from. BUT MY ADVICE IS DON'T FIT A SCOTTOILER.
Conversely I've never had a problem with them. If fitted carefully and correctly they work fine. I have never had to touch any of the fittings on my Girly since fitting it at 1000 miles. 71000 later..............................
Quote from: blacktiger on February 22, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
Conversely I've never had a problem with them. If fitted carefully and correctly they work fine. I have never had to touch any of the fittings on my Girly since fitting it at 1000 miles. 71000 later..............................
I'm aftraid I'm on my 5th or 6th bike with a Scottoiller fitted... never had a problem, I'm beyond convincing now :icon_wink:
Moving on.............
Fork oil replaced, the oil itself didnt actually look that bad, but the air gap was well out, the bike has Hagon springs installed which I confirmed by contacting Hagon and giving them the numbers on the springs. Hagon advise an air gap of 130mm with their springs, it was more like 180, should help the nose dive somewhat combined with my special mix of 10/15 weight
Not sure this would pass Elf and safety, I was going to do the head bearings but have decided to delay that until I construct a more stable lift :icon_eek:
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Use the plastic chairs :ImaPoser
And don't leave your calipers hanging for long :nod
80 Mile shakedown run to the tool shop at Ross-On-Wye, well, any excuse. Running really well, and the forks are so much better, only mishap on way was I blew the accessory fuse? Now, I had my Gerbing Jacket on the socket and heated grips on full, so maybe its too much for the 10amp fuse, this rings a bell from last time and Im sure I ended up wiring a Gerbing loom direct to battery on its own fuse. Main thing is shes running like a swiss watch, ok, maybe a bit over the top, its a Tiger after all :icon_biggrin:
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Note the nice and loose new chain, maybe a bit loose but its better than too tight
Yes, I know, still have the Antique Givi, but it does its job
Quote from: Timbox2 on February 28, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
Note the nice and loose new chain, maybe a bit loose but its better than too tight
Yes, I know, still have the Antique Givi, but it does its job
Your chain looks good from where I am sitting. Girlies like a sloppy chain.
2nd point, no one is looking at your outdated Givi on that very orange modern looking bike. :thumbsup
BTW... your bike looked to be defying gravity 3 posts up. :icon_eek:
Quote from: JoeDirt on February 28, 2016, 05:28:44 PM
BTW... your bike looked to be defying gravity 3 posts up. :icon_eek:
It was, I was using "The Force" Luke........... :bad
The Givi I think is probably best described as "period" and personally Swiss watches are boring :augie that looks somewhat more exciting.
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on February 28, 2016, 07:19:31 PM
The Givi I think is probably best described as "period" and personally Swiss watches are boring :augie that looks somewhat more exciting.
Cheers Sin, yeah, I like that. I'll still probably replace it as its a wee bit small for my Tool Case/Laptop