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Title: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on May 05, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
Hi guys,

I really want to remove the crank cover and clutch plate to then re-spray them.

Can I remove the old paint with paint stripper?

What's a good heat resistant spray in black I could use?

Cheers guys,

Dan

:bowdown
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: BruKen on May 05, 2016, 06:48:41 PM
Yes you can use paint stripper. You do not want or need high heat paint, it wont cure on the crank covers. I used hammerite enamel thinned with white spirit (not thinners) and spayed that on with a spray gun. It has proved very durable.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: nickjtc on May 05, 2016, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: BruKen on May 05, 2016, 06:48:41 PM
You do not want or need high heat paint, it wont cure on the crank covers..

Unless you put them in swwbo's oven at the correct temp. :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: JayDub on May 05, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
If you don't have access to spray equipment then this stuff is an almost perfect match in finish to the OEM black.  Use an oven as Nick says, although I didn't bake it and its still good after nearly two years.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: BruKen on May 05, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
I'm sorry but the way high temp paints work I struggle to believe you can cure it properly in a household oven and if you got a cover to near the 400 C temps needed it would either crack or warp. A paint job that has lasted 2 years is imho not a recommendation. It should be good for the life of the vehicle.

What I liked about hammerite and its the only time I have ever used it in any of my restos is that not only does it adhere well to the shitty alloy used in the steamer when most paints will eventually flake off but as an enamel it gives excellent protection from the oxidation the shitty alloy is so prone to. The only thing better would be a ali bias 2 pack hi fill primer and then whatever you want on top.

I've successfully used hammerite on my outboard engine and 2 pack on my I/O legs. You dont get a much harsher environment for ali Mg alloys that the sea.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on May 06, 2016, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: BruKen on May 05, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
I'm sorry but the way high temp paints work I struggle to believe you can cure it properly in a household oven and if you got a cover to near the 400 C temps needed it would either crack or warp. A paint job that has lasted 2 years is imho not a recommendation. It should be good for the life of the vehicle.

What I liked about hammerite and its the only time I have ever used it in any of my restos is that not only does it adhere well to the shitty alloy used in the steamer when most paints will eventually flake off but as an enamel it gives excellent protection from the oxidation the shitty alloy is so prone to. The only thing better would be a ali bias 2 pack hi fill primer and then whatever you want on top.

I've successfully used hammerite on my outboard engine and 2 pack on my I/O legs. You dont get a much harsher environment for ali Mg alloys that the sea.

Would you rate Hammerite in a spray can?

Would I just use Nitromors paint stripper?
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 07, 2016, 12:35:24 AM
You'd have to do the lot as its unlikely it'd match the existing colour, certainly won't match the original speckled  (municipal convenience) black finish.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on May 07, 2016, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on May 07, 2016, 12:35:24 AM
You'd have to do the lot as its unlikely it'd match the existing colour, certainly won't match the original speckled  (municipal convenience) black finish.

On this note I think I'd go with JayDub's suggestion and go for this Simoniz High Temperature paint in a can as he's found it's a good match.

Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: nickjtc on May 07, 2016, 05:46:27 PM
Please take pics of the end result. Thank you.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on July 22, 2016, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: JayDub on May 05, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
If you don't have access to spray equipment then this stuff is an almost perfect match in finish to the OEM black.  Use an oven as Nick says, although I didn't bake it and its still good after nearly two years.

Hi JayDub !

I'm going for it this week end. I've got a can of this Simoniz high temperate paint.

You said it's worked well for you.

I aim to use Nitromors to remove the old paint from the clutch plate and the other plate on the other side.

Do you then suggest I use a primer or did you find that this paint adhered well on it's own?

Cheers,

Dan
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: JayDub on July 23, 2016, 12:12:16 AM
most of the  paint had peeled off or bubbled, so I used a drill mounted brass wire brush, a blade, then degreaser but no primer.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 23, 2016, 12:18:27 AM
Do NOT use a steel wire brush or wire wool, the steel particles will embed themselves in the softer alloy and eventually rust. As JD says brass or stainless steel.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: nickjtc on July 23, 2016, 06:44:35 AM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on July 23, 2016, 12:18:27 AM
Do NOT use a steel wire brush or wire wool, the steel particles will embed themselves in the softer alloy and eventually rust. As JD says brass or stainless steel.

+1. Don't ask!
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on July 23, 2016, 12:53:17 PM
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on July 23, 2016, 12:18:27 AM
Do NOT use a steel wire brush or wire wool, the steel particles will embed themselves in the softer alloy and eventually rust. As JD says brass or stainless steel.

Got it !

You guys are amazing.

:thumbsup
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: threepot on July 23, 2016, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: BruKen

I've successfully used hammerite on my outboard engine and 2 pack on my I/O legs.
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Legs?  :icon_scratch:
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 24, 2016, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: threepot on July 23, 2016, 01:28:02 PM

Legs?  :icon_scratch:

The bit that sticks out the back of the boat with the propellor on it.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on July 24, 2016, 01:31:53 PM
Before . . .
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Danwarb on July 24, 2016, 08:24:33 PM
During . . .

Nitromors is a bit slow but is working fine. I've chosen to go for re-spraying all the main casings at once as I've got this far in to it.
Title: Re: Spraying engine covers? Any tips?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 25, 2016, 12:45:39 AM
I hope that's not the kitchen work top or you've got some serious plastic sheet under your news paper  :bug_eye
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