Hello,
I took my red Steamer off road in southern Utah through some red sandy roads. It ran fine until I hit the pavement. It lurched horribly after that, like my dad after he came home from being at sea. I lurched to a campground and began tearing it apart. The carbs were full of the red sludge. So full that the needle valves wouldn't close and it just gushed gas. I cleaned it up as best as I could and limped to the nearest town, parked it, then went home to SLC. I eventually loaded it on a trailer and brought it home. The PO said the carbs were recently rebuilt and are quite clean. But I think I need to rebuild them again just because of all that red dirt of my childhood.
I'm wondering if anyone knows what other bikes used these carbs? After searching a little today I found a Kawasaki Zrx1200 and Vulcan use the Keihin 36mm but are they the same carb? I appreciate it. I want to ride a little more before the snow. Thank you.
I've posted some about racks before but not to the whole group so hello from Utah, the land of contradictions.
Hello. That's a lot of red. I'd start by making sure the air filter system wasn't being bypassed - sucking red dust into the red steamer making the red sludge? Otherwise it'll just recur.
Someone more knowledgeable will be along shortly to give you the right answer on the carb questions but there's plenty on carb overhaul in the previous threads if you wanna hit the search tool.
Yes I got some red on it. It has the stock airbox with a K&N air filter. There are no other air filters. Does it need snorkel filters? I put an inline filter in and haven't seen any new stuff in the carbs.
I searched the forum and found one reference to a Kawasaki ZRX 1200 bowl gaskets possibly working.
It seems Steamer parts are hard to find in the US. Which bums me out. It's been a blast and one of very few bikes that will fit my considerable bulk.
Thanks for replies.
Lynn
When I search then click a link it sends me to the login page. Is it Chrome or are my settings wonky?
Steamers are definitely a man sized bike for man sized men.
I think there has been a lot of experimentation with air filters and it always seems to be that dead stock standard is the best bet. I have never changed mine as it has always worked fine. Sometimes you'll see a new owner come on here and their bike isn't running right and slowly they work to put it back to standard. Then it's fine again.
Can't help on the parts issue as not in the US. Don't know what is going on with the search either. Works fine for me.
I think it is bikebandit that the US guys get their parts from.
Quote from: bemusedinsojo on October 14, 2016, 07:08:54 PM
When I search then click a link it sends me to the login page. Is it Chrome or are my settings wonky?
I use chrome and search works for me ok, so yeah, its you :icon_lol:
Do'nt know about Keihin but Mikuni are the same on the gsxr.
Quote from: tonytiger on October 15, 2016, 10:41:03 AM
Do'nt know about Keihin but Mikuni are the same on the gsxr.
Almost, if you try fitting the Gixer slides in the Steamer bodies I think you'll find they are tight. The T designation in the model number is to denote Triumph specific and Mikuni have an agreement that those specific parts are sold only to Triumph. Ask Steve at Motocarb :nod
Ok thanks for the replies. I love this bike because it can haul me and the wife with some gear and still blast through mountain passes with more to give. So I hope to keep it going until one of us explodes.
Quote from: Sin_Tiger on October 15, 2016, 01:02:28 PM
Almost, if you try fitting the Gixer slides in the Steamer bodies I think you'll find they are tight. The T designation in the model number is to denote Triumph specific and Mikuni have an agreement that those specific parts are sold only to Triumph. Ask Steve at Motocarb :nod
NRP also do some stuff, but again mainly Mikuni I think, did they only fit Keihin for the last year of the steamer??
http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=common/home
Just read your OP again, as Nick said, I'd stick a good filter in line from the tap as he suggested, could be that the original filters have been removed, not necessarily a bad thing but you do need filtration. See recent thread on the subject.
Wasatch, we :friday our share and sell the rest :thumbsup
Quote from: Timbox2 on October 15, 2016, 07:08:21 PM
NRP also do some stuff, but again mainly Mikuni I think, did they only fit Keihin for the last year of the steamer??
http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=common/home
Worth comparing prices with
http://www.worldoftriumph.com/triumph_motorcycle_parts_catalogue.php?model_id=23773
Big difference on diaphragms!
Sin I swapped sliders, there is no difference
Quote from: tonytiger on October 19, 2016, 04:47:23 PM
Sin I swapped sliders, there is no difference
:thumbsup give it a good test and note the part numbers and we'll update the cross reference list.
Quote from: Nick Calne on October 15, 2016, 09:39:03 AMSometimes you'll see a new owner come on here and their bike isn't running right and slowly they work to put it back to standard. Then it's fine again.
:nod Don't I know it :icon_cry:
Leaving aside change in the hope of a few more horses, I firmly believe that most owners change things that didn't need fixing in the first place. For instance not knowing the difference between a fuel and an electrical misfire.....
Quote from: bemusedinsojo on October 14, 2016, 11:13:26 AM
Yes I got some red on it. It has the stock airbox with a K&N air filter. There are no other air filters. Does it need snorkel filters? I put an inline filter in and haven't seen any new stuff in the carbs.
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Lynn
If you have the K&N from the previous owner, he may have changed the jetting also. Can you tell us their size? I have custom designed K&N on mine & found that when I used a piece of UNI foam over it my jetting needed to go one size smaller. The UNI foam, with the proper filter oil, keeps almost all dirt from reaching the K&N. You could squeeze a sheet of 1/8" on the outboard side of the K&N. At your altitude, (6000 ft?) you may need smaller jets for that also. Double check the whole system for possible leaks, the carb-to-engine & carb-to-airbox rubber rings get very brittle with age & may have cracks.
Quote from: fishnbiker on November 19, 2016, 04:33:17 PM
If you have the K&N from the previous owner, he may have changed the jetting also. Can you tell us their size? I have custom designed K&N on mine & found that when I used a piece of UNI foam over it my jetting needed to go one size smaller. The UNI foam, with the proper filter oil, keeps almost all dirt from reaching the K&N. You could squeeze a sheet of 1/8" on the outboard side of the K&N. At your altitude, (6000 ft?) you may need smaller jets for that also. Double check the whole system for possible leaks, the carb-to-engine & carb-to-airbox rubber rings get very brittle with age & may have cracks.
4800 feet in the valley where I live. The mains are 132. Can't find a size on the pilots. I will look for leaks. Thanks.
PS sorry for the delay. I was in Portlandia for Thanksgiving.