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Title: High fender MX style on a Steamer
Post by: Bob Tosi on January 29, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
I am going to be getting dirt tires and wanted to put a high fender on the old girl.  Is there a certain fender that works best?  How does the mounting work?
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Post by: Mustang on January 29, 2011, 10:37:14 PM
The Acerbis Front fender for a CRF450 Honda works great

you need some spacers about 3/4 inch long and a pc of flat aluminum to make a fender mount out of
the bottom of the triple tree should have a pair of tapped holes already that yo can use to mount the aluminum plate to
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Post by: Bob Tosi on January 29, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
As always Oni Wan Tiger Kanobi,  thx :headbang  :headbang
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Post by: jwray76 on January 30, 2011, 02:30:48 AM
do you have to change the break lines on the Steamer? I know the Girly needs to be converted to dual lines all the way from the MC
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Post by: Bob Tosi on January 30, 2011, 03:49:44 AM
Don't think so but it sounds like a good idea to check
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Post by: jwray76 on January 30, 2011, 04:18:04 AM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"Don't think so but it sounds like a good idea to check

The Girly has one brake line from the MC to one of the calipers. then a short line jumps across the top of the stock fender to the other caliper.
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Post by: Bob Tosi on January 30, 2011, 04:40:47 AM
This is a Steamer with 1 line from the mc to the bottom of the triple clamp where it goes to each caliper.
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Post by: rf9rider on January 30, 2011, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: "jwray76"do you have to change the break lines on the Steamer? I know the Girly needs to be converted to dual lines all the way from the MC

No, you can use the original brake lines.
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Post by: aeronca on January 30, 2011, 05:26:08 PM
i can help - http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... igh+fender (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4698&highlight=high+fender)  i'll shoot you a pm soon.    eric
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Post by: Bob Tosi on January 30, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
Hey aeronca have we talked before? I recognize your avatar.  Steamers rule!
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Post by: Rocinante on January 30, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
You can use a fender from a KTM LC4 and customize a bracket for it. No need to move brake hoses.
Pictures:
http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,7023 (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,7023)
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Post by: aeronca on January 31, 2011, 01:09:15 AM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"Hey aeronca have we talked before? I recognize your avatar.  Steamers rule!


hey bob, im sure we may have talked at some point or another. i have made fender brackets for several other members of this forum in the UK, USA, Canada, and Singapor. it will fit an acerbic's tech fender. i'll send you a pm.    eric
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Post by: Colonel Nikolai on January 31, 2011, 04:12:02 AM
In the US you can get the Acerbis here:

http://tinyurl.com/67b4otv (http://tinyurl.com/67b4otv)
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Post by: Bob Tosi on February 09, 2011, 04:35:54 AM
thanks Colonel.  What ever happened to your dipstick cover?
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Post by: fishnbiker on March 02, 2011, 07:02:05 AM
hey bob, im sure we may have talked at some point or another. i have made fender brackets for several other members of this forum in the UK, USA, Canada, and Singapor. it will fit an acerbic's tech fender. i'll send you a pm.    eric[/quote]

Aeronca sent one to me, but I used it differently than suggested. I found a fender brace That I mounted the fender on top of. I used Aeronca's bracket as a tie down through the fender to the brace. The rear end has a mudflap made from an old truck tire liner. I also used the Tiger fender as a template to trace out & cut down the front of the high fender to make it appear more like the original.

Thanks Aeronca. It's wonderfull working with such a fine group of contributors.
Title: fender
Post by: kingdomstyle on March 03, 2011, 04:44:17 AM
is there a kit you can buy that has all this?
Title: Re: fender
Post by: Mustang on March 03, 2011, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: "kingdomstyle"is there a kit you can buy that has all this?
no kit
if you own a steamer and want to add farkles (man I hate that word) you need to fab them yourself
steamers have been out of production now for 13-14 years and they were never in that great a number in the first place for most companys to bother with aftermarket shit . No profit margin ......to use your example of a high front fender kit , who would bother making a production run and then have the parts sit on a shelf somewhere because the reality is you are probably only going to sell two or three kits.
95 tigers there were only around 125 units shipped to US
by 98 they were a bit better at around 500 units  to US and then the steamer was done ...........

Pretty low #'s of machines to make specific aftermarket products for .

Granted in UK and especially Germany the #'s of steamers is greater .
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Post by: kingdomstyle on March 03, 2011, 05:27:08 PM
wow 125 shipped in 95,that is hard to imagine,that makes them even cooler :D
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Post by: Bob Tosi on March 18, 2011, 07:30:46 PM
Quoteby 98 they were a bit better at around 500 units to US and then the steamer was done ...........

What a shame because these bikes totally KICK ASS!

500 accross the US is even pretty slim pickins.  Ten per state not counting wrecked ones out of service.

They are BEASTS off road but I would trade mine for nothin'!
Title: steamers
Post by: kingdomstyle on March 18, 2011, 11:51:48 PM
i was a baxter cycle today,he told me that parts are getting scarce for these steamers,how much truth is there to that?
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Post by: Bob Tosi on March 19, 2011, 12:02:02 AM
Bike Bandit seems to have all the schematics and parts.
Title: Re: steamers getting scarce
Post by: fishnbiker on March 19, 2011, 07:13:20 AM
Quote from: "kingdomstyle"i was at Baxter Cycle today,he told me that parts are getting scarce for these steamers,how much truth is there to that?


Just take a look at other small run or older varieties. It might be a plan to consider how long you want to keep yours. Likely, common to other model parts (engine, brakes electrical), will remain relatively easy to get for some time yet. The unique-to-Tiger bits swill be discontinued at some future date, so you will have to look for other sources. Just ask anyone who owns an old Bonneville, or Commando or Royal Enfield Interceptor.  Maybe an exaggerated example, but you should get the drift.

I have been slowly gathering spares as they appear. Presently have a complete body set (not all black), wheels, brake & clutch parts, starter, alternator, etc. It started all so innocently, with small pieces, just a set of brake pads, then a throttle cable, a water pump came available & I was hooked ... having to snatch parts from anyone. Tiger addiction can be a dangerous thing! Save yourselves, sell your Steamer to me! Hahahahaha
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Post by: Bob Tosi on March 19, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
QuoteTiger addiction can be a dangerous thing! Save yourselves, sell your Steamer to me! Hahahahaha
_________________

NO NO NO DONT DO IT!......LOL
Title: My Turn to FENDER
Post by: Jon KB on July 17, 2011, 03:22:05 AM
Quote from: "fishnbiker"hey bob, im sure we may have talked at some point or another. i have made fender brackets for several other members of this forum in the UK, USA, Canada, and Singapor. it will fit an acerbic's tech fender. i'll send you a pm.    eric

Aeronca sent one to me, but I used it differently than suggested. I found a fender brace That I mounted the fender on top of. I used Aeronca's bracket as a tie down through the fender to the brace. The rear end has a mudflap made from an old truck tire liner. I also used the Tiger fender as a template to trace out & cut down the front of the high fender to make it appear more like the original.

Thanks Aeronca. It's wonderfull working with such a fine group of contributors.
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My turn,

It is a wonderful thing to start out with someones design and modifying it to meet your needs.

I started my replacement fender today
I'll be modifying Fishnbiker's design

I purchased a supermoto fender a couple of weeks ago
today I started with a 19 inch square by 1/8th inch thick aluminum sign that's been sitting in the garage for about 15 years.

Drew some lines (':shock:')
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0426.jpg)

Cut bent and beat  into hopefully usable shapes  (':icon_scratch')
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0428.jpg)

Tomorrow I'll pick up some hardware and start pre-assembly
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Post by: jwray76 on July 17, 2011, 03:43:57 AM
Looking pretty fancy!

I picked up a used high fender and it is just three one inch wide aluminum strips bent to mount it up. It works well too.
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Post by: aeronca on July 17, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
looks good jon.
Title: Re: My Turn to FENDER
Post by: Jon KB on July 19, 2011, 09:23:45 AM
put some more time into my fender, might get it done tomorrow barring interruptions.

Pre-assembly, seems to work
 
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0436.jpg)

Underside
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0439.jpg)

Using the back portion of the original fender as a fender extender
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0445.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0444.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0442.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0443.jpg)

Next I'll clean it all up to give it a more finished look and add some paint
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Post by: Bob Tosi on July 19, 2011, 04:39:07 PM
Jon

Very nice work.  So that's a super moto fender and not a regular MX fender?  Is that the reason for the extension on the bottom end of the fender?  Are you planning to clamp the new fender to the fork tubes with the vertical parts of your new mounting brackets?

I love seeing people do stuff like this at home, it reminds ne why I got an engineering degree.  Great work!

Cheers!
Title: super moto fender
Post by: Jon KB on July 19, 2011, 06:41:52 PM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"Jon

Very nice work.  So that's a super moto fender and not a regular MX fender?  Is that the reason for the extension on the bottom end of the fender?  Are you planning to clamp the new fender to the fork tubes with the vertical parts of your new mounting brackets?

I love seeing people do stuff like this at home, it reminds ne why I got an engineering degree.  Great work!

Cheers!

The oil cooler is positioned vertically and a little lower than on the later girlies.

I was planning to extend the stock fender to reduce the amount of mud that sprays onto the oil cooler, so I just made the changes on the new fender.

If it doesn't work out I'll remove it.

The most expensive part of this build is the stainless steel hardware replacing the plastic fender if needed in the future will be cheep.

I leave the engineering to other folks an stick to kludging their designs.

Thank you to all those who I have borrowed concepts from, they make my life much more enjoyable.   :notworthy
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Post by: Jon KB on July 19, 2011, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: "Bob Tosi"Jon

 Are you planning to clamp the new fender to the fork tubes with the vertical parts of your new mounting brackets?

Cheers!

The mounting brackets attach to the original mounting holes on the forks
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Post by: aeronca on July 20, 2011, 10:47:32 PM
nice job, cant wait to see it in person. 8)
Title: Fender complete
Post by: Jon KB on July 21, 2011, 07:05:15 PM
Fender complete, brake hose still needs reroute
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0455.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0454.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0451.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0449.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0447.jpg)

(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/JonK-B/Motorcycle%20Adventures/fender/SAM_0446.jpg)

I will be replacing the brake cross over hose with one direct from the reservoir.

I also need to check the fork travel to see if anything makes contact when impacting a pot hole at speed. adjustments will be made as necessary.

Thanks go out to those who did it before me.
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Post by: aeronca on July 22, 2011, 02:35:33 AM
:hello2  :hello2  :occasion14  :icon_salut  nice job bro.
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Post by: Jon KB on July 22, 2011, 06:56:40 AM
Quote from: "aeronca":hello2  :hello2  :occasion14  :icon_salut  nice job bro.

Thanks, I'm fairly pleased with it myself. ':D'
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Post by: jwray76 on July 22, 2011, 01:20:51 PM
Nice work...and interesting mounting of the fog lights with turn signal relocation  :D
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Post by: Jon KB on July 22, 2011, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: "jwray76"Nice work...and interesting mounting of the fog lights with turn signal relocation  :D
Thanks.

I copied the turn signal mounts from Tigger of University Place WA
Title: Re: High fender MX style on a Steamer
Post by: Rallyroo on May 12, 2013, 03:49:07 AM
Resurrecting an old thread here, but I figured I would share my new "beaky" tiger. Looks like it was getting jealous of the younger siblings. Haven't decided which direction to go with the lower fender; may leave the rear section on to try to reduce spray.

Feels pretty secure, but I haven't tested at highway speeds yet, so it may still need a brace.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DHl9ZmuBIZA/UY7xtLROrSI/AAAAAAAACBM/5uszFXSWTTc/s800/IMG_3414.jpg)
Title: Re: Fender complete
Post by: coachgeo on May 12, 2013, 05:31:15 AM
Quote from: Jon KB on July 21, 2011, 07:05:15 PM
Fender complete, ...
Thanks go out to those who did it before me.
Thanks RallyRoo for bringing this thread back up.

Jon; if your still around, do you have a stepped back pic of this?  Would be interesting to see the aesthetics of how it looks from a full bike side and front view.  Hard to tell the overall affect with the pics being of just the fork and fender.  That and I want to see a Yellow Tiger as Im thinking paint scheme's lately.

Awesome fabrication. Kudos for that.
Title: Re: High fender MX style on a Steamer
Post by: 97tiger885 on May 15, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt4/97tiger885/0516011117.jpg)


Quote from: Bob Tosi on January 29, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
I am going to be getting dirt tires and wanted to put a high fender on the old girl.  Is there a certain fender that works best?  How does the mounting work?

I did two things.  Kept the stock fender but cut off the front.  I found an old mx fender for $5, cut it to size and used two very crude L-brackets about 9 inches long screwed into the two holes under the bottom yoke.  20,000+ miles and going strong.

Title: Re: High fender MX style on a Steamer
Post by: Solon on May 15, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
I am not a big fan of beaks on bikes, but this combination  looks really cool.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: High fender MX style on a Steamer
Post by: coachgeo on May 16, 2013, 03:12:19 AM
nice job.......... coolio
Title: Re: High fender MX style on a Steamer
Post by: sweller on May 18, 2013, 09:26:52 AM
The "TigRat" in one of its earlier iterations had a high level universal MX mudguard:

(http://www.sweller.co.uk/images/tiger900.jpg)

It was attached using exhaust U clamps on the fork stanchions and some homemade  brackets on the mudguard.

I took it off and replaced it with a standard front as it caught the wind on motorways (and didn't do much for the fuel consumption!)

This is the best close up I have:

(http://www.sweller.co.uk/images/tigermudguard.jpg)
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