Clutchless Shifting

[kelpie_67]

Anyone have any thoughts on this - do you or don't you. Is it bad or good? Once again the Uber Noob asks the obvious.....


 thanks in advance for your wisdom

[Mustang]

sometimes I do mostly on upshifts though and generally only when really wanking on the throttle doing redline pulls  :shock:
when you have 38 years of riding under the belt you just sort of know when to shift , but for most part I just use the clutch

[Colonel Nikolai]

I used to have this old Suzuki GS that could clutchless shift like the dickens: totally effortlessly. I can't get my 96 Triumph Sprint to clutchless shift well: its too notchy. Never tried on the Tiger: figured it'll be as notchy as the Sprint. I'd like to be told otherwise and it's just me or the particular Sprint I have.

[Mustang]

full synthetic oil makes a triumph shift like it has butter for gears  ..........

[HappyMan]

yes, like butter.  I rarely use the clutch on up shifts.

[Colonel Nikolai]

I've always used Mobile 1 Racing 4T in my Sprint and now in my new (to me) Tiger, so I have nothing to compare it to. I recently switch to Amsoil synthetic motorcycle oil in the Sprint as an experiment as it's a tad cheaper.

[HappyMan]

I've only ever run Mobile 1 4T.  Works too well for me to consider anything else.  I'd love to hear what you think about the Amsoil.

[Mustang]

shell rotella T from Wal mart works good too . But I am with HAppyman here
Mobil 1 MX4t from autozone 9 bucks a quart good stuff  
if I am doing multiple days of long rides in hot weather (summertime roadtrip) I'll use the Mobil 1 v-twin stuff instead of the MX4T as it is a higher viscosity 20-50 if IRRC

[pletdj]

I use amsoil in everything from my quads, to truck to bikes.  I have had great success and any independant study i have seen has put Amsoil at the top of the list.

[kelpie_67]

I have shifted most all my bikes in the past without the clutch - all you need to do is pay attention to engine speed and actual speed - in fact bikes are easier to clutchless shift than the tractor trailers i used to drive and believe me I hardly ever used the clutch once moving. I just wanted to know other peoples experiences since I love my old (2000) Girly and want to keep her for a while

[JetdocX]

Sometimes when I'm up on the pegs, I do my upshifting on the fly without clutch and no problems so far.  Downshifting can be a bit violent, but I'm talking low speed, here, so 1st and 2nd gears.

[Nick Calne]

On a tiger? - clutch every time.....what's the rush?

Sportsbikes -well that's a different matter.  

[cosmo]

Both my '96 Trophy and my Girly ('06) shifted better W/O clutching, tho downshifts require a technique that has been learned through over 20 years of riding and at least ten years of driving a semi.

But, I find that bikes with a face cam for shift drum location work better than those with a star-shaped cam, as you can easily pause between gears rather than have the drum rotate into the next gear.

Cosmo

[Sniffy]

On my Roadie I use the clutch for engaging first and then it's clutchless all the way up. Like has been said before, smooth as butter  :)

[Colonel Nikolai]

I'll let you know about the Amsoil in a few weeks here in the Sprint once I fix the short / relay implosion I got lately.  
   
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